Development of Draft Picks vs the Dogs

[Hogan2014 390]

It’s night & day when you compare and ours just take much longer...

[Elegt 872]

6 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

It’s night & day when you compare and ours just take much longer...

Anthony Scott. Prime example, bloke was only drafted a few weeks ago, looks way better than sparrow already 

[Little Goffy 12,486]

What's going on with the wave of new threads started with one-line 'tut tut tch tch' comments?

[Foopy on the telly 468]

9 hours ago, Elegt said:

Anthony Scott. Prime example, bloke was only drafted a few weeks ago, looks way better than sparrow already 

Scott is a 25 year old mature ager in the Marlion Pickett mould who can make an impact right away. But he’s played one freakin game and already you’re calling him better than sparrow? 

Edited March 19, 2021 by nacnud

[Reader 99]

9 hours ago, Elegt said:

Anthony Scott. Prime example, bloke was only drafted a few weeks ago, looks way better than sparrow already 

Kozzie, Jackson, Riv, say hello

[Brownie 5,107]

9 hours ago, Elegt said:

Anthony Scott. Prime example, bloke was only drafted a few weeks ago, looks way better than sparrow already 

Playing in a better team with a better game plan? Makes players look good.

[rufus 916]

3 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Playing in a better team with a better game plan? Makes players look good.

Plus a team that plays with higher intensity across the ground...which makes it easier for everyone to play better...

[Elegt 872]

20 minutes ago, nacnud said:

Scott is a 25 year old mature ager in the Marlion Pickett mould who can make an impact right away. But he’s played one freakin game and already you’re calling him better than sparrow? 

My point is Scott was playing vafa for a few years, only just scraped and afl position. Sparrow has been playing state footy as a junior and vfl, high pick in the end yet shows no afl traits, struggles to even just play his role 

[Reader 99]

Incorrect, Sparrow is playing because he has AFL traits, good on the club for sticking with him & giving him another chance.

What is a pass mark today for Sparrow to retain his spot?

 

 

[In Harmes Way 7,477]

Sparrow is going to be a very good player for us. Lay off him.

[rpfc 27,378]

I think our development is getting better from what I have seen. That has to be married up with picking the right talent and that will only be revealed after a few years.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

Just remember what our player development was like from the early 2000s to around 2013 compared to these days.

This is like heaven.

[Bimbo 890]

What an unusual thread, well researched and backed up by indisputable facts.

The OP would have started at the 2019 National draft

Melbourne

pick 3 Jackson (6 games)

pick 12 Pickett (14)

pick 27 Rivers (9)

 

Bulldogs

pick 15 Weightman (3 games)

pick 53 Butler (2)

pick 62 Garcia (0)

 

2018 National Draft.

Melbourne 

pick 27 Sparrow (7 games)

pick 33 Jordon (0)

pick 53 Nietsche (0)

pick 56 Hore (14)

Pick 75 Bedford (2)

 

Bulldogs 

Pick 26 West (7)

Pick 37 Vandermeer (13)

Pick 45 Cararra (3)

Pick 78 Hayes (11)

 

Of the players drafted in the National Draft over 2019 and 2020 Melbourne have 5 playing today.  Bulldogs had 2 last night.  

Perhaps I misunderstood the initial point.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

40 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

Sparrow is going to be a very good player for us. Lay off him.

Yeah maybe but he doesnt seem ready at the moment.

Now watch him have 25 touches and 3 goals today.

[Diamond_Jim 11,670]

Other than draft picks who have gone (almost) straight into the senior team our development via Casey has been less than stellar.

Is it any worse than other clubs? No idea.

My traditional whinge is that we have such little luck with our 28 plus year olds going on. If you can get two or three of those who perform at a high level week in week out list balance is so much easier.

Hopefully May breaks the mould

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Last year’s draftees (Jackson, Pickett, Rivers) all look likely for us. However, I worry about a potential void from the previous 2 drafts in terms of talent, rather than development.

But as I said in another thread, we just need a couple of that group to come in and fill a role. We have Sparrow, Jordon and Spargo playing from that group today. None need to be match winners, but all have important roles.

Edited March 20, 2021 by Forest Demon

[Forest Demon 4,681]

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Other than draft picks who have gone (almost) straight into the senior team our development via Casey has been less than stellar.

Is it any worse than other clubs? No idea.

My traditional whinge is that we have such little luck with our 28 plus year olds going on. If you can get two or three of those who perform at a high level week in week out list balance is so much easier.

Hopefully May breaks the mould

Jetta, Melksham, Jones and Hibberd (although he was better last year) did drop off pretty sharply after 2018. And then we obviously had Lewis retire as well.

[Elegt 872]

11 minutes ago, Bimbo said:

What an unusual thread, well researched and backed up by indisputable facts.

The OP would have started at the 2019 National draft

Melbourne

pick 3 Jackson (6 games)

pick 12 Pickett (14)

pick 27 Rivers (9)

 

Bulldogs

pick 15 Weightman (3 games)

pick 53 Butler (2)

pick 62 Garcia (0)

 

2018 National Draft.

Melbourne 

pick 27 Sparrow (7 games)

pick 33 Jordon (0)

pick 53 Nietsche (0)

pick 56 Hore (14)

Pick 75 Bedford (2)

 

Bulldogs 

Pick 26 West (7)

Pick 37 Vandermeer (13)

Pick 45 Cararra (3)

Pick 78 Hayes (11)

 

Of the players drafted in the National Draft over 2019 and 2020 Melbourne have 5 playing today.  Bulldogs had 2 last night.  

Perhaps I misunderstood the initial point.

Vandermeer looks great, pacey, tough and would've looked good running on our wings 

[Ugottobekidding 913]

10 hours ago, Elegt said:

Anthony Scott. Prime example, bloke was only drafted a few weeks ago, looks way better than sparrow already 

We swap draft picks all the time so an influx of good young players is rare.

 

[Little Goffy 12,486]

Is it even worth mentioning how unlucky many of our kids have been when it comes to injury?  Several of the younger guys who are in that 'might crack a game soon' category have been knocked around repeatedly.  Not all of that can be blamed on the club.

Oliver, Fritsch and Spargo would be just about only players 20-24yrs old who haven't been seriously interrupted by repeat injuries. Toss in Hore and Smith in the same group, since they were under-25 at the start of the year.

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

I gave myself a break from here   reading some the 'supporter' posts on this topic, tells me I made the right decision

 

[Kent 2,574]

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I gave myself a break from here   reading some the 'supporter' posts on this topic, tells me I made the right decision

 

Been very quiet on here without you Saty?

[Diamond_Jim 11,670]

4 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I gave myself a break from here   reading some the 'supporter' posts on this topic, tells me I made the right decision

 

welcome back !!

[spirit of norm smith 12,828]

3 hours ago, In Harmes Way said:

Sparrow is going to be a very good player for us. Lay off him.

Ditto. Looks good. Strong at the footy