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Rd 01 Availability: Viney, Pickett & Brayshaw?


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Goody speaks about Gus and Viney availability and also Kozzy as well. Brayshaw to start playing VFL and Viney touch and go for round 1. Looks like Kozzy will come straight back into the side in round 1. Shows how highly rated he is by the coaches.

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  • dazzledavey36 changed the title to Jack Viney, Kozzy Pickett and Angus Brayshaw round 1 availability.

Seems like they might be learning with Viney that playing it safe beats the alternative.

It leans towards yes for Koz but ‘available’ doesn’t mean he’s a certain starter.

I wish he was asked about Melksham and Hibberd too. Hibberd could be crucial to curtailing Fyfe and Walters if he’s fit and ready to go. 

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Just now, DeeSpencer said:

Seems like they might be learning with Viney that playing it safe beats the alternative.

It leans towards yes for Koz but ‘available’ doesn’t mean he’s a certain starter.

I wish he was asked about Melksham and Hibberd too. Hibberd could be crucial to curtailing Fyfe and Walters if he’s fit and ready to go. 

Hibberds barely done a pre season. Won't be ready for round 1.

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2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.afl.com.au/news/555370/gun-dee-in-uphill-battle-goody-s-heartbreaking-chat-to-acl-victim

Goody speaks about Gus and Viney availability and also Kozzy as well. Brayshaw to start playing VFL and Viney touch and go for round 1. Looks like Kozzy will come straight back into the side in round 1. Shows how highly rated he is by the coaches.

 

Fingers crossed that Kade Chandler has another strong game this Monday.  The trio of Kozzie/Spargo/Chandler is something that can cause Freo serious problems, and I cant recall a time when we have gone with 3 small forwards.  Exciting!

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37 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Hibberds barely done a pre season. Won't be ready for round 1.

I’d imagined that was the case, especially if we aren’t hearing about him. But I also thought Gus hadn’t done much until very recently. 

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54 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Surprised about Kossie, I wonder if it will be alongside Chandler? If Chandler has another good outing against the Dogs it will be hard (dumb?) to exclude him from the round 1 side.

Just hope Kossie can keep his feet so he can hopefully impact the contest

I have never seen a player who slips over so much so it is difficult to determine his worth. I wonder what the problem is? Fortunately he is 19 and has plenty of time  but he must fix it

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  • Demonland changed the title to Rd 01 Availability: Viney, Pickett & Brayshaw?

Is it time enough now to reflect on why we resigned Jack and didn't do the hard thing and move him on at peak value.  We now have a broken player in a position where we have enough depth to cover him taking salary cap we may want to use on one of Salem, Oliver or Trac. 

Just not sure that we did the right thing signing Jack long term...even if it felt like the emotionally right thing by the club. 

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1 minute ago, Altona-demon said:

Is it time enough now to reflect on why we resigned Jack and didn't do the hard thing and move him on at peak value.  We now have a broken player in a position where we have enough depth to cover him taking salary cap we may want to use on one of Salem, Oliver or Trac. 

Just not sure that we did the right thing signing Jack long term...even if it felt like the emotionally right thing by the club. 

Sounds like he was very interested or tempted by the Geelong offer until it came to $$$.   They valued him around the 450k mark, we value him at 650+.   Can see why he is still playing for Melbourne.  Fwiw i think we should have traded him and got something different into our midfield but many seem to rate Viney so highly that we had to keep him whatever the cost.  For his age/experience he is a very one dimensional bash and crash type that does not seem to think through many situations on the field.  The real issue though i think is that he does not have flexibility to play other positions, much like Harmes/Brayshaw.  Not sure all 3 of these guys are needed....Definitely not all in the same team.   All these three players are expected to play Seniors and are paid well above average wages, i just don't think we function that well when we have 2 or more of them in same team.   Overpriced depth if god forbid something happens to either Oliver or Petracca.  I hope each of Viney/Harmes and Brayshaw can all add layers to their games, none are automatic selections going off last few seasons.

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2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I wish he was asked about Melksham and Hibberd too. Hibberd could be crucial to curtailing Fyfe and Walters if he’s fit and ready to go. 

Very concerned about the influence Walters will have on round 1. He was literally the difference in a 3 goal result in Cairns last year and he's touted to be playing predominantly forward this year. Do we have anyone to go with him?

He also kicked 3 or 4 against us 2019.

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21 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Very concerned about the influence Walters will have on round 1. He was literally the difference in a 3 goal result in Cairns last year and he's touted to be playing predominantly forward this year. Do we have anyone to go with him?

He also kicked 3 or 4 against us 2019.

Couldn't agree more - you could see this even in the scratch match against Richmond, we don't defend fast small forwards very well. tbh i'm not sure? Jetta - Rivers?

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26 minutes ago, Altona-demon said:

Couldn't agree more - you could see this even in the scratch match against Richmond, we don't defend fast small forwards very well. tbh i'm not sure? Jetta - Rivers?

That's because Goody refuses to select a small back pocket type back men and most mids are not quick enough to go with these smart crumbing players.

He abandoned Lockhart Halfway  through last year and stopped his development now ha has a choice of him agsin maybe  Bowey which is a tall order but I don't know whether Riv has the small backs smarts in pace etc to do the job On these climbers. Might be ok for Walters As he is bigger.

 

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That's because Goody refuses to select a small back pocket type back men and most mids are not quick enough to go with these smart crumbing players.

He abandoned Lockhart Halfway  through last year and stopped his development now ha has a choice of him agsin maybe  Bowey which is a tall order but I don't know whether Riv has the small backs smarts in pace etc to do the job On these climbers. Might be ok for Walters As he is bigger.

 

Crumbers not climbers!!

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2 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

 

Fingers crossed that Kade Chandler has another strong game this Monday.  The trio of Kozzie/Spargo/Chandler is something that can cause Freo serious problems, and I cant recall a time when we have gone with 3 small forwards.  Exciting!

R1 last year we went with:

Pickett, ANB, Spargo, Bedford

Plus Fritsch, Truck, Lockhart, etc.

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5 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Gun Dee in uphill battle, Goody's heartbreaking chat to ACL victim

Goody speaks about Gus and Viney availability and also Kozzy as well. Brayshaw to start playing VFL and Viney touch and go for round 1. Looks like Kozzy will come straight back into the side in round 1. Shows how highly rated he is by the coaches.

Not sure about Pickett. Goodwin doesn't say he's going to play Round 1, only that he hopes he'll be "available", and at any rate I don't think he's certain about that.

I'm surprised at Brayshaw's progress but not by Viney's, as I've come to expect slowness when dealing with Viney and his feet (pun intended).

We won't see Viney in Round 1, I doubt we'll see Pickett, and Brayshaw is maybe 50/50%.

What can be said about all this, though, is that this has not been an ideal pre-season. We'll have to see how it impacts our performance, if at all.

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If pickett is fit he plays, don't think I've seen many first year small fwds play the type of footy he did last yr.  Is a freakish talent and should be in our B22.

But he has been away from the group for a bit, if that means he needs a week or 2 in the VFL to get his touch or fitness well so be it.  But is our best small fwd by a long way and only in his 2nd year.

As for the others, let's make sure they are right before throwing them in, especially midfielders as we have a plethora of them, so rotate and give those that are injured the correct rehab.

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1 hour ago, Altona-demon said:

Couldn't agree more - you could see this even in the scratch match against Richmond, we don't defend fast small forwards very well. tbh i'm not sure? Jetta - Rivers?

I'd be thinking Jetta, and then it's all about respect..

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