AFL Live Pass Discontinued

[John Crow Batty 8,215]

The AFL App on Telstra will be integrated with Rupert Murdoch’s Kayo sports app and AFL App users on Telstra will now pay for the Kayo app. This means all other sports now on Kayo including NRL will be included. Some will be happy and others including me will not welcome the bloatware of sports I’m not interested in and having to pay for it. Telstra customers will only pay $5 a month at least for the first year. Then likely they will like be slugged up to the full $25 a month for the Kayo App. It is unclear how this affects AFL App users on other carriers. 
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/telstra-to-quit-nrl-afl-streaming-apps-in-sports-strategy-shift-20210202-p56ysc.html

Edited February 2, 2021 by america de cali

[Diamond_Jim 11,670]

At least if you get a kayo account for $5 per month you can watch it on full screen TV.

Now if only we could get rid of the Channel 7 commentary

[John Crow Batty 8,215]

5 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

At least if you get a kayo account for $5 per month you can watch it on full screen TV.

Now if only we could get rid of the Channel 7 commentary

I am not sure this Kayo app can be watched on full screenTV’s. May be only for mobile devices.

Edited February 2, 2021 by america de cali

[Lord Travis 10,128]

How long until footy is off free to air tv as well? [censored] me dead the AFL are doing everything they can to ruin the game and then make it unavailable to the public.

The new rule changes are rubbish. The viewing options are scattered, inconsistent and costly trash. Can’t even beam to a tv in full screen despite paying for the [censored] content!

When I can’t make the games at the MCG, I won’t be watching anymore.

Edited February 2, 2021 by Lord Travis

[In Harmes Way 7,477]

6 minutes ago, america de cali said:

I am not sure this Kayo app can be watched on full screenTV’s. May be only for mobile devices.

I subscribed to Kayo last year ADC and chrome casted from the app to the TV. Worked fine.

[whatwhat say what 18,743]

also no mention of the grand final rights, which are currently not pushed from being fta 'exclusive' for 7 to being simultaneously on foxtel / kayo

i tried streaming the gf last year via 7 app - was in 480p and barely watchable

[binman 37,715]

Great. I've got kayo already. So now I lose tge benefit of the afl app.what does tbst mean for the replay library and afl pro (which is what I mainly use afl live for)? I have to pay for live pass to use?

[John Crow Batty 8,215]

3 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

I subscribed to Kayo last year ADC and chrome casted from the app to the TV. Worked fine.

I will wait until the app is up and running. I still am annoyed at the “new improved” AFL app from a couple of years ago when suddenly the size of the viewing screen was reduced to phone size on tablets. 

[brendan 3,380]

At least Kayo has all the shows like AFL360 and on the couch etc

[whatwhat say what 18,743]

4 minutes ago, brendan said:

At least Kayo has all the shows like AFL360 and on the couch etc

an hour of slobbo four days a week? cancel my subscription!

[Eelesie 216]

Part of the pinch here will be mobile data if you are out and about. AFL was unmetered, I liked to watch matches etc while at the gym, made easier as the data did not come off my mobile monthly usage. Will be the killer for me...

[Cards13 9,117]

plus Kayo has lost the Rugby to Stan ffs... 

[DeeSpencer 23,051]

34 minutes ago, binman said:

Great. I've got kayo already. So now I lose tge benefit of the afl app.what does tbst mean for the replay library and afl pro (which is what I mainly use afl live for)? I have to pay for live pass to use?

Kayo has replays, but it's a very good question about the pro version of the stats. Which really isn't all that pro anyway but at least offers more insight than the basics.

[DeeSpencer 23,051]

29 minutes ago, Eelesie said:

Part of the pinch here will be mobile data if you are out and about. AFL was unmetered, I liked to watch matches etc while at the gym, made easier as the data did not come off my mobile monthly usage. Will be the killer for me...

Good point. Telstra should make kayo unmetered for customers. The size of data plans are escalating pretty quickly though. I'm looking at an ad right now below this reply box for $30 for 36GB. And it's well overdue that gyms start installing some proper wifi.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,095]

Disappointing news. Watching live games for free on your TLS mobile was a bit of a perk.

[old dee 22,799]

I am not sure what the angst is about the vast majority of the AFL revenue comes from the media. After the last season when the media got way less games to televise the demand for more revenue streams would have been hi from the media channels and Gil would be busting a gut to accommodate them given the loans he took against the Dome of death to keep the league viable.

Sport around the world is now mainly pay for view, FTA has very little. The only reason it still gets a chance in Australia is because of Government laws  that keep it that way.

The future is clear pay up or don't watch.

[DeeSpencer 23,051]

39 minutes ago, america de cali said:

I will wait until the app is up and running. I still am annoyed at the “new improved” AFL app from a couple of years ago when suddenly the size of the viewing screen was reduced to phone size on tablets. 

The kayo app is up and running, it's purely the discount that is new. It's already $15 for telstra customers, now it's $5 for existing AFL Live customers. The AFL app had streaming restrictions that banned it from full size. Kayo's fine to chromecast, connect to a laptop via hdmi, with an apple tv and I think with telstra tv's, samsung tv and android tv.

[DeeSpencer 23,051]

5 minutes ago, old dee said:

I am not sure what the angst is about the vast majority of the AFL revenue comes from the media. After the last season when the media got way less games to televise the demand for more revenue streams would have been hi from the media channels and Gil would be busting a gut to accommodate them given the loans he took against the Dome of death to keep the league viable.

Sport around the world is now mainly pay for view, FTA has very little. The only reason it still gets a chance in Australia is because of Government laws  that keep it that way.

The future is clear pay up or don't watch.

Sports that through greed or desperation put everything behind paywalls will suffer as well. Free to air TV still reaches the widest audience which then keeps it relevant and makes more money in the long term. The question is how much longer free to air tv will even exist and if everything ends up owned by big tech in the end. 

The thing I'd like to see is members rewarded with a free or discounted streaming package. Pay $300 for a membership, here's a link to access all 22 Melbourne games streamed to you.

[Eelesie 216]

13 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The kayo app is up and running, it's purely the discount that is new. It's already $15 for telstra customers, now it's $5 for existing AFL Live customers. The AFL app had streaming restrictions that banned it from full size. Kayo's fine to chromecast, connect to a laptop via hdmi, with an apple tv and I think with telstra tv's, samsung tv and android tv.

The Kayo app is pretty good, don't get me wrong. I have an apple TV (4th gen) and it works well, as well as running it on my laptop and connecting it to the TV via HDMI. Still no support for Xbox or Playstation, but I suspect that it will be this year.

There are replays from 2018 onwards only (not that I am chasing much outta 2013...) but most relevant is the fact that as Fox does not have rights to the finals series, the 18 finals replays for example are not available on Kayo...

Edited February 2, 2021 by Eelesie

[old dee 22,799]

7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Sports that through greed or desperation put everything behind paywalls will suffer as well. Free to air TV still reaches the widest audience which then keeps it relevant and makes more money in the long term. The question is how much longer free to air tv will even exist and if everything ends up owned by big tech in the end. 

The thing I'd like to see is members rewarded with a free or discounted streaming package. Pay $300 for a membership, here's a link to access all 22 Melbourne games streamed to you.

Google all over again DS!

[binman 37,715]

21 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Kayo has replays, but it's a very good question about the pro version of the stats. Which really isn't all that pro anyway but at least offers more insight than the basics.

I was referring to the AFL pro vision which gives video of very involvement (kick, handball, once percenter, tackle, free for, free against, score, score involvement, mark) of every player in every game. Love it

Agree the stats are pretty average. I assume the pro vision is the software that generates the stats.

The thing i like about the replays on AFL.com via AFL live is that they slice it up into quarters and have no extraneous [censored]. So you can watch what you want without searching on the kayo replay which is one long file.

kayo is good option for replays where you want to watch the pre game stuff, quarter time break stuff and post game interviews and analysis etc.

Also the AFL replays are not available until 24 hours after the game whereas kayo are available immediately (or even whilst the game is on)

[Demon trucker 1,722]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

How long until footy is off free to air tv as well? [censored] me dead the AFL are doing everything they can to ruin the game and then make it unavailable to the public.

The new rule changes are rubbish. The viewing options are scattered, inconsistent and costly trash. Can’t even beam to a tv in full screen despite paying for the [censored] content!

When I can’t make the games at the MCG, I won’t be watching anymore.

The more money tv give to sport the less people actually watch that sport, ever since cricket was taken off free to air tv in the UK less and less people now watch cricket in England. It's actually a trap for sport, they lose viewers for more money, and in the long run they lose money.

[old dee 22,799]

11 minutes ago, binman said:

I was referring to the AFL pro vision which gives video of very involvement (kick, handball, once percenter, tackle, free for, free against, score, score involvement, mark) of every player in every game. Love it

Agree the stats are pretty average. I assume the pro vision is the software that generates the stats.

The thing i like about the replays on AFL.com via AFL live is that they slice it up into quarters and have no extraneous [censored]. So you can watch what you want without searching on the kayo replay which is one long file.

kayo is good option for replays where you want to watch the pre game stuff, quarter time break stuff and post game interviews and analysis etc.

Also the AFL replays are not available until 24 hours after the game whereas kayo are available immediately (or even whilst the game is on)

The game has never been more available that said you pay or go without. FTA gives some games each week.

I have adopted the attitude that I go to games and if I cannot I watch on FTA the rest I miss outon seeing . I have objected to paying.

Then along comes 2020 season that made my plan hard to sustain, I lost interest to some extent but I had a few things interrupt that the GP did not have.

So here we are facing god knows what for season 2021 and I am forced to admit my previous practise will see me get to see only a few games a year.  Decision time is approaching I will have to pay I am afraid as the alternative is rather bleak.

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by old dee

[Grr-owl 1,075]

Boyz, use a VPN to locate your net address outside Aus, then take an international membership at MFC which gives you access to the WatchAFL app at a minor discount and you get every game, plus Fox Footy shows, no ads during play and all the sauce....

Not exactly right, but not exactly wrong either....

Edited February 2, 2021 by Grr-owl
Love my boyzzzzz

[Demon_spurs 1,639]

I go to the pub and watch the games not on FTA, with the guys I go to the games with. mind you it was a bit hard to do that last year so I signed up for KAYO for $5 a month, then they cancelled the season for 3 months, and I forgot to unsubscribe my KAYO and ended up get stiffed for $25 per month., but kept it cause it was the only way I could watch the Dees.