Jump to content

  • Podcast:     

  • Podcast:     


Recommended Posts

I'm more interested in Salem's future than anyone else on our list.

At the moment he's a good, occasionally very good, player. There is no doubt he has the ability to be much better than that.

Would another club, say Essendon or Hawthorn, make him an offer he can't refuse based on potential? Will he take another step forward this year and make himself indispensable at Melbourne? Or is he happy just being a top 10 - 15 player at a middling club?

Gawn will resign, but hopefully on a reduced rate. The other five could all be gone by year end.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Kane Cornes did a top 10 of free agents this morning and Gawn landed at about 5 or 6.

Bont and Cripps were top 2.

Hopefully Salem re-signs. We’ve done well retaining our top 10 picks (aside from Hogan who technically wasn’t a top 10 pick and who technically we got rid of)

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Kane Cornes did a top 10 of free agents this morning and Gawn landed at about 5 or 6.

Bont and Cripps were top 2.

Hopefully Salem re-signs. We’ve done well retaining our top 10 picks (aside from Hogan who technically wasn’t a top 10 pick and who technically we got rid of)

kornes doesn't really rate ruckmen despite matress and lade giving him silver service in his best years

Link to post
Share on other sites

Zach Merrett would be a very handy addition to our midfield!

He was obviously unhappy towards the end of last year and if Essendon have another bad season (quite possible) i think we could get him. He'd be expensive so not sure if we could fit him into our cap but worth it i reckon. I'd sacrifice Gus to make it happen.

If he goes to Geelong or Richmond I'll cry.

Link to post
Share on other sites

There’s only one player on our list I am worried about losing this year and he’s not a free agent. If we have another garbage year and Oliver leaves that will be me pretty much done and dusted I think.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, poita said:

I'm more interested in Salem's future than anyone else on our list.

At the moment he's a good, occasionally very good, player. There is no doubt he has the ability to be much better than that.

Would another club, say Essendon or Hawthorn, make him an offer he can't refuse based on potential? Will he take another step forward this year and make himself indispensable at Melbourne? Or is he happy just being a top 10 - 15 player at a middling club?

Gawn will resign, but hopefully on a reduced rate. The other five could all be gone by year end.

The ONLY issue I have with SALEM is his tackles are like butter. Almost non existent. Kicks great makes good decisions but can't tackle. Get him outta the backline. Make him more into an attacking player 

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, poita said:

I'm more interested in Salem's future than anyone else on our list.

At the moment he's a good, occasionally very good, player. There is no doubt he has the ability to be much better than that.

Would another club, say Essendon or Hawthorn, make him an offer he can't refuse based on potential? Will he take another step forward this year and make himself indispensable at Melbourne? Or is he happy just being a top 10 - 15 player at a middling club?

Gawn will resign, but hopefully on a reduced rate. The other five could all be gone by year end.

Agree Salo important but he will go consistently to a next level and resign Zi believe Maxy a given to resign.

Most interesting other is JJ  if he is given a chance by Goody to debut in AFL.

Not a lot to worry I don't think but we must sign Trac and Clarry During 2021.

Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, 4_Kent_Watts said:

The ONLY issue I have with SALEM is his tackles are like butter. Almost non existent. Kicks great makes good decisions but can't tackle. Get him outta the backline. Make him more into an attacking player 

I agree he'd be better value as a HFF or midfield player with his gr8 kicking skills.

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
58 minutes ago, trout said:

There’s only one player on our list I am worried about losing this year and he’s not a free agent. If we have another garbage year and Oliver leaves that will be me pretty much done and dusted I think.

If Oliver doesn’t make some big changes to the way he plays, including significant improvements to playing “team first” footy, the Club May well consider that his trade value is attractive. 
I can tell you that Yze ran a lengthy video session this week based on the positioning and work rate of our midfielders particularly when we don’t have the ball, and Oliver, Petracca & Viney were the continuous culprits of most examples. 
I’m loving what I’m hearing about Yze’s intent to improve the defensive efforts, selfishness and team first acts of the big 3 egos. 

  • Like 17
  • Thanks 2
  • Love 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, goodwindees said:

If Oliver doesn’t make some big changes to the way he plays, including significant improvements to playing “team first” footy, the Club May well consider that his trade value is attractive. 
I can tell you that Yze ran a lengthy video session this week based on the positioning and work rate of our midfielders particularly when we don’t have the ball, and Oliver, Petracca & Viney were the continuous culprits of most examples. 
I’m loving what I’m hearing about Yze’s intent to improve the defensive efforts, selfishness and team first acts of the big 3 egos. 

So the senior coach has either not picked up on this weakness or ignored it. Why does it need Yze to point it out?

  • Like 3
  • Facepalm 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
21 hours ago, poita said:

I'm more interested in Salem's future than anyone else on our list.

At the moment he's a good, occasionally very good, player. There is no doubt he has the ability to be much better than that.

Would another club, say Essendon or Hawthorn, make him an offer he can't refuse based on potential? Will he take another step forward this year and make himself indispensable at Melbourne? Or is he happy just being a top 10 - 15 player at a middling club?

Gawn will resign, but hopefully on a reduced rate. The other five could all be gone by year end.

Gawn deserves the $$$ this time around.  I am sure he has played for unders for his current contract. 
 

Best Ruck in the comp, polished media performer and captain. 

Edited by Demons11
Link to post
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, goodwindees said:

If Oliver doesn’t make some big changes to the way he plays, including significant improvements to playing “team first” footy, the Club May well consider that his trade value is attractive. 
I can tell you that Yze ran a lengthy video session this week based on the positioning and work rate of our midfielders particularly when we don’t have the ball, and Oliver, Petracca & Viney were the continuous culprits of most examples. 
I’m loving what I’m hearing about Yze’s intent to improve the defensive efforts, selfishness and team first acts of the big 3 egos. 

Thanks for the insight.  Oliver strikes me as someone who, rightly or wrongly, if he respects his coach ala Macca he will do as told.  Sounds like Yze is commanding that respect.  He will need to undo some 'ingrained' training from Oliver's early days of: 'see ball, get ball' and teach other tricks.

At first I was surprised to see Viney in the list but on second thoughts I'm not.  I fear that because of his status as past co-cap and current VC and having a 'bull' reputation he played to his own tune, often competing with our mids.  Good to see we have a coach to straighten him (and the others) out and that he is one of our midfielder team.    As VC he needs to set the example of 'team first' and be a leader in that regard for the midfielders and the rest of the team to follow.  Selfish play begets selfish play.

Edited by Lucifer's Hero
  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thanks for the insight.  Oliver strikes me as someone who, rightly or wrongly, if he respects his coach ala Macca he will do as told.  Sounds like Yze is commanding that respect.  He will need to undo some 'ingrained' training from Oliver's early days of: 'see ball, get ball' and teach other tricks.

At first I was surprised to see Viney in the list but on second thoughts I'm not.  I fear that because of his status as past co-cap and current VC and having a 'bull' reputation he played to his own tune, often competing with our mids.  Good to see we have a coach to straighten him (and the others) out and that he is one of our midfielder team.    As VC he needs to set the example of 'team first' and be a leader in that regard for the midfielders and the rest of the team to follow.  Selfish play begets selfish play.

Yes, Yze is not going to let the big 3 get away with what Ben Matthew’s did. On a positive note, some of the Demonland whipping boys were pointed out and praised by Yze in the same videos for sacrificing their attacking position by moving to take the defensive positions that were often not occupied by the big 3.  
 

  • Like 8
Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Yes, Yze is not going to let the big 3 get away with what Ben Matthew’s did. On a positive note, some of the Demonland whipping boys were pointed out and praised by Yze in the same videos for sacrificing their attacking position by moving to take the defensive positions that were often not occupied by the big 3.  
 

I'm guessing the likes of ANB and Spargo were one of those names.

How did Trac, Oliver and Viney take the feedback @goodwindees

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Yes, Yze is not going to let the big 3 get away with what Ben Matthew’s did. On a positive note, some of the Demonland whipping boys were pointed out and praised by Yze in the same videos for sacrificing their attacking position by moving to take the defensive positions that were often not occupied by the big 3.  
 

On the one hand I'm really pleased with what Yze is doing.  On the other hand I'm disappointed that in the 4 years of the Goodwin regime, the coaches collectively, weren't able to get an A-grade midfield to gel as a cohesive unit and to do the 'attitude-adjustment' required.

Hopefully, Yze sorts out the midfield roles of Oliver and Viney who seem to play or want to play the same role.

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thanks for the insight.  Oliver strikes me as someone who, rightly or wrongly, if he respects his coach ala Macca he will do as told.  Sounds like Yze is commanding that respect.  He will need to undo some 'ingrained' training from Oliver's early days of: 'see ball, get ball' and teach other tricks.

At first I was surprised to see Viney in the list but on second thoughts I'm not.  I fear that because of his status as past co-cap and current VC and having a 'bull' reputation he played to his own tune, often competing with our mids.  Good to see we have a coach to straighten him (and the others) out and that he is one of our midfielder team.    As VC he needs to set the example of 'team first' and be a leader in that regard for the midfielders and the rest of the team to follow.  Selfish play begets selfish play.

Vineys bash and crash has disguised a selfish style, AT times.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, goodwindees said:

Yes, Yze is not going to let the big 3 get away with what Ben Matthew’s did. On a positive note, some of the Demonland whipping boys were pointed out and praised by Yze in the same videos for sacrificing their attacking position by moving to take the defensive positions that were often not occupied by the big 3.  
 

They will either get on board or you will see some very different midfield combinations to limit the time all three are in there together.  

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
55 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

On the one hand I'm really pleased with what Yze is doing.  On the other hand I'm disappointed that in the 4 years of the Goodwin regime, the coaches collectively, weren't able to get an A-grade midfield to gel as a cohesive unit and to do the 'attitude-adjustment' required.

Hopefully, Yze sorts out the midfield roles of Oliver and Viney who seem to play or want to play the same role.

If you consider the fact of Olivers age and Trac only recently joining the midfield mix its not like they have had years of maturity together to gel. This is why we are coming into our window now as this is when players who may be good individually start to mature and gel into team first footy.

As far as free agency Kelly, Merrett and Laird in that order should be our targets.

 

Edited by big_red_fire_engine
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm guessing the likes of ANB and Spargo were one of those names.

How did Trac, Oliver and Viney take the feedback @goodwindees

Spot on Dazzle. Plus Vanders & Melksham. 
Yze certainly delivered it in a positive, educational manner. It wasn’t done in a way to belittle those players but I think we’ll find far less tolerance for a lack of defensive running, not filling defensive positions in transition as well as stop plays, taking on the tackler 2 & 3 times, panic handballing etc.  

  • Like 3
  • Love 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
54 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

They will either get on board or you will see some very different midfield combinations to limit the time all three are in there together.  

Absolutely correct.  I believe there is a concern that we have too many that can only play inside midfield and nowhere else.  eg Oliver, Viney, Brayshaw, Harmes, Sparrow, Jordan & Vanders.  
Yze wants team first footy and those not willing to conform will not be in there and will be considered trade worthy and it is only my speculation that the one with most trade value is the one that needs to conform the most. 

GPS tracks the players who run the most metres towards the opposition’s goal when the opposition has the ball, the Club calls it Defensive Metres and particularly tracks all midfield & forwards on this stat.  Most on here would be very surprised if you saw that list of ranked players.  Once again, a Demonland whipping boy tops that list. 

  • Like 9
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, goodwindees said:

Absolutely correct.  I believe there is a concern that we have too many that can only play inside midfield and nowhere else.  eg Oliver, Viney, Brayshaw, Harmes, Sparrow, Jordan & Vanders.  
Yze wants team first footy and those not willing to conform will not be in there and will be considered trade worthy and it is only my speculation that the one with most trade value is the one that needs to conform the most. 

GPS tracks the players who run the most metres towards the opposition’s goal when the opposition has the ball, the Club calls it Defensive Metres and particularly tracks all midfield & forwards on this stat.  Most on here would be very surprised if you saw that list of ranked players.  Once again, a Demonland whipping boy tops that list. 

name em

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles

    CANCEL CULTURE by Whispering Jack

    I’m not one who likes mixing politics with sport but it should be noted there have been some unusual trends in the world of sport lately. In the US, Major League Baseball announced that it’s moving the 2021 All-Star Game and the 2021 MLB Draft out of Georgia, in response to the state’s new voting law. Over here, there’s a move to force Carlton to change its club song because the original song on which it was based (written in the late 1800s) has “racist connotations”. The Blues maintain the curr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    MOGGIES MASTERED by George on the Outer

    They say that herding cats is an impossible task but not for the Melbourne Demons who through relentless pressure, scored a commanding 25 point victory in Round 4 over Geelong at the MCG. The team that missed the AFL finals only once in the past dozen years were shown up by the new Demons of 2021 who have recorded their first 4-0 opening to the season in 21 years! Melbourne knew what was coming, and it was Geelong who were shown up for their inability to adapt to the 2021 style of foot

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    UNDER MY SKIN by The Oracle

    The story goes that there’s a certain player from Geelong who has been seen in Moorabool Street crooning the old Sinatra classic, “I’ve got you under my skin.” His name is O’Connor and he’s been tasked to achieve one thing on Sunday by his coach, Chris Scott: to get under the skin of a Demon midfielder on Sunday and thereby tag him out of the big contest at the G. The idea behind the tactic is to not only blunt one of the team’s most destructive weapons but to distract them all from producing th

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    MAX IN SPACE

    Demon skipper Max Gawn is one big unit at 208cm and lately he’s been standing even taller. We already know that he’s unstoppable in the air when going for a mark but with three consecutive victories to open the season, you might say that he has his head in the clouds.  And that is literally true thanks to a fan at Demonland.com who recently arranged for our big ruckman to go even further than the clouds but way beyond to the edge of space and into the stratosphere. And this photograph of Ma

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features 25

    CAPITAL PUNISHMENT by George on the Outer

    A 34-point win in the nation’s capital has seen the Demons kill the Giants hopes early in the 2021 season. It wasn’t only the scoreboard, but a succession of injuries to major players for GWS that has put paid to their aspirations. The winning result wasn’t just due to the opposition losing players, but also to the relentless pressure from this 2021 Melbourne side that put them in the winners circle. In past years, a 16 point deficit at the first change combined with a rampant Toby Greene w

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    POWER AND THE PASSION by Whispering Jack

    The Demons ran out for their Qualifying Final match against the Fremantle Dockers at Casey Fields as the sounds of Midnight Oils’ “Power and the Passion cascaded over the mainly friendly pro-Melbourne crowd. It was a far cry from the season opener at Carrara in late January where few of their fans were in attendance in high 20’s heat and humidity and silence greeted every score from the slow-starting Demons. They ran away from the lowly Suns, won comfortably in the end and followed that with ano

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    BREAK OUT by Whispering Jack

    Despite the chaotic events occurring in Canberra over the past few weeks, one thing is for certain. This weekend’s game at Manuka Oval in the nation’s capital between the GWS Giants and Melbourne will decide which of Scott Morrison or Leon Cameron is the most under the pump at this point in time.  This time twelve months ago, the Giants were coming off a season in which they had played off in a grand final. They opened up their 2020 campaign with a resounding 32-point victory in round 1 aga

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    MARVELOUS PRESSURE by George on the Outer

    Is this a new form of Melbourne which has suddenly emerged in 2021?  In the past, whenever the pressure was applied, the team would falter early and as a consequence, it would more often than not, be forced to confront its own self-inflicted failure. But perhaps not so this year. The match at Marvel Stadium against the Saints provided an insight into how creating pressure, actually relieves it on the club, players and coach. Right from the start, Melbourne was there to make a stat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    STUCK IN THE MIDDLE by The Oracle

    Throughout the off season, St Kilda was touted as an improver and a possible challenger for a top four position mainly off the back of another good trade and draft period at the end of last year. Then in Round 1, the undermanned Saints made a shaky start and almost succumbed to the Giants but they managed to come home from a wet and woolly Sydney with the four points intact. For Round 2, they have a couple of handy players returning so they come into the the game at Marvel Stadium choc

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    A SCRAPPY, SLOPPY SUCCESS by George on the Outer

    After what seemed like an eternity without Footy in Melbourne, the Demons and their fans produced a scrappy, sloppy yet successful return to the MCG. Yet is was against an interstate team from the furthest reaches of the country, but the 21K fans who made it through the gates, was way below expectations for numbers.  Sure it can’t have helped with all the difficulty that Ticketek imposed just to get a ticket, and since you just couldn’t walk up, perhaps the number wasn’t that surprising.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    UNFINISHED BUSINESS by Whispering Jack

    The Melbourne Football Club has unfinished business with Fremantle after that unexpected loss in their previous clash at Cazaly’s Stadium in Cairns cost it a place in last year’s finals campaign.   Back then, the tired Demons spluttered listlessly through the humid conditions in tropical far North Queensland playing in and losing two games in the space of four days and against two lowly clubs. The end result was much more than an embarrassment for the club given what was at stake at th

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    PRACTICE PUMMELLING by George on the Outer

    Was this a practice for what lay ahead for the Demons in 2021 or was it an outcome to expect because it was used as a true practice game? Those of us on the outside will never know, but a 39 point loss to the Western Bulldogs was a pummelling in anyone’s language. We can draw some consolation from the players that Melbourne put on the field, with Toby Bedford, Jake Bowey, Kade Chandler, James Jordon and Tom Sparrow each getting a guernsey whereas they probably would not normally be in the f

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

×
×
  • Create New...