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2 hours ago, Dr.D said:

Viney officially ruled out til after the byes. so a 1-2 weeks injury has turned into 7 weeks (minimum). Its not good enough. Either jack has played through an injury making it worse or the club doctors haven't respected his long foot injury history enough. this is pissing me off so much. he is so important to us

No, it doesn't have to be "either" of your two opinions, it can be that injuries are complicated and things don't always go as expected or heal/develop how the club would like.

Typical hyperbole by you to try and turn it into a black and white issue where you have someone to blame.

Starting to suspect you may not be a real Dr...

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Seems pretty decent news. Gus & Petty seem the only ones a bit behind (as expected). Plus, a good sign they'll get into some actual footy work pretty early.  

Two years ago things were reversed and Melbourne was up at the top of the list with by far the highest number. Nobody gave a toss about us or demonstrated any sympathy for our plight. So yeah, bi

This must be Vanders first pre-season in about 4 years not starting in the rehab group. Hopefully he and Nietschke will have uninterrupted pre-seasons this time around. 

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Viney injury not ideal, but at 10-1, no point rushing him back which could potentially be to his detriment. 

Don't mind the cautious approach, but as @Lord Nev said - injuries are complicated - esp. Feet. 

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2 weeks ago there was had to have been setback (incedent I'm guessing) in Jacks recovery - it was communicated as just an extension of his return - but I had a bad feeling in my dumplings. It gave my 'Danny from Droop Street' personality a much needed kick of glumness  - which I've been starved of this year.

Seriouisly though  - Jack deserves to be a part of the surge this year & play deep (waaaaaaay deep) into finals.

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Injury/Suspension List: Round 13

Ed Langdon (concussion) — Available 

Jack Viney (toe) —  1 to 2 Weeks

Bailey Laurie (eye socket) — 2 Weeks

Deakyn Smith (ankle) — 2 Weeks

Joel Smith (knee) — 2 Weeks

Marty Hore (knee) — 9 to 11 Weeks

Aaron Nietschke (knee) — Season

Adam Tomlinson (knee) — Season

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33 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

According to the report, we will have no injuries other than the 3 ACL injuries after the bye.

We really do all need to acknowledge that we are having an exceptionally good run on the injury front so far.

I'm sure a significant part of that is luck. But I wonder whether any part of it is reward for fitness/planning/training/etc.? Like, for example, are we minimising/avoiding soft tissue injuries by being fitter and by implementing a better medical programme than other clubs?

I have no idea and not sure anyone would, just thinking out loud.

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At the moment just enjoy the fact that we seem to have a healthy list, which could change at a moments notice.

Most teams win premierships when the best 22 or near best 22 play week in week out.

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14 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

We really do all need to acknowledge that we are having an exceptionally good run on the injury front so far.

I'm sure a significant part of that is luck. But I wonder whether any part of it is reward for fitness/planning/training/etc.? Like, for example, are we minimising/avoiding soft tissue injuries by being fitter and by implementing a better medical programme than other clubs?

I have no idea and not sure anyone would, just thinking out loud.

Mostly luck I reckon. Each club spends $6m on getting 45 players up and running and the intel is shared across the league as staff come and go.

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

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yeah bulls1te - but I don't expect or want us to tip our hand ...

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28 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Guessing that if he's that 9 - 11 weeks away, then that could equate to him being in the zone of playing games for Casey around finals time.  Would be handy to have as depth around then and must also be giving the man himself some motivation to play either AFL or VFL finals.

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This is about as good a position as we could be in halfway through the season. After the bye we will have virtually a full list to select from, top of the ladder a game clear and full of confidence.

 

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On 6/8/2021 at 8:11 AM, titan_uranus said:

We really do all need to acknowledge that we are having an exceptionally good run on the injury front so far.

I'm sure a significant part of that is luck. But I wonder whether any part of it is reward for fitness/planning/training/etc.? Like, for example, are we minimising/avoiding soft tissue injuries by being fitter and by implementing a better medical programme than other clubs?

I have no idea and not sure anyone would, just thinking out loud.

This is insanely crucial any clubs hopes of pushing up the ladder and being in premiership contention. Luck is an element that is supremely undervalued when looking at premiership teams. The tigers broke their drought off the back of a stupidly good year of injuries, even better than what we currently have. The dogs had injuries in their year but their piece of luck was they peaked absolutely perfectly and got an armchair ride from the umpires. Even back to the dominant Essendon team of 2000, they had an incredible run of no injuries and no suspensions (that last part ironic given their thuggish actions on GF day). 

Luck is the element that I feel like we’ve constantly missed out on. All the way back to Jimmy running across the mark in prelim, to ‘98 getting pushed over to the tougher finals draw despite beating the premiers by 50+ points in the first week, 2000 we came up against unstoppable force, and the years from 2004-2006 even though we were in contention we always seemed to get injuries right at the worst times. 

So far Lady Luck is shining on us, fingers crossed that continues!

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On 6/3/2021 at 5:23 PM, roy11 said:

Viney injury not ideal, but at 10-1, no point rushing him back which could potentially be to his detriment. 

Don't mind the cautious approach, but as @Lord Nev said - injuries are complicated - esp. Feet. 

 

On 6/4/2021 at 11:28 AM, Monocology said:

2 weeks ago there was had to have been setback (incedent I'm guessing) in Jacks recovery - it was communicated as just an extension of his return - but I had a bad feeling in my dumplings. It gave my 'Danny from Droop Street' personality a much needed kick of glumness  - which I've been starved of this year.

Seriouisly though  - Jack deserves to be a part of the surge this year & play deep (waaaaaaay deep) into finals.

Latest training photos on the MFC website show Jack running around and kicking the footy.  Must be getting pretty close if that's the case.

My bet is that the club are both playing it ultra safe with Jack making sure he doesn't risk re-injury, but probably also getting him back to as close as possible to full match fittness, so that when he does get put into the senior side, he's cherry ripe, ready to smash some heads and make pleanty of opposition on-ballers cry. 

Dangerfield, Selwood, Bont, Zorko, his old mate Wines all need to feel the full force of Jack 'The Human Cannonball' Viney come the back half and pointy end of the season.

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On 6/8/2021 at 4:56 PM, John Crow Batty said:

So it appears AVB is now available to play?

His skills let him down at times but I wonder if he could be a September wild card if he somehow finds himself in the side in August?

Big bodied contested player that wouldn’t be afraid of nailing the big goal in a final.

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8 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

His skills let him down at times but I wonder if he could be a September wild card if he somehow finds himself in the side in August?

Big bodied contested player that wouldn’t be afraid of nailing the big goal in a final.

It will be reasonable to expect some attrition come finals time. A fresh and fit AVB will be very valuable in pressure cooker finals.

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