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Don't like it on so many levels

I disagree about the sentiments on the adversitment. If I was at uni /younger and wanted experience in those fields or recently graduated, I would jump at this opportunity. (besides being at the

Where I live the university has run ads asking for sporting clubs (local and professional) to give their students the same opportunities the MFC had. This is just another example of how people want to

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2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Agree but at 10-25 hours per week, travel to Casey and mentioning graduates... not on and very disappointed in the MFC

Ohh the poor dears Get a grip

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1 hour ago, Darkhorse72 said:

They have clarified its aimed at uni students and a few other points.  (Not being a legal HR person) Illegality is only promising it will become F/T paid work if you work X for free.  In this case it is not, totally agree that is not on. 

If your at uni, this i a great opportunity for those interested in a sporting field of work in the support skills.  As pointed out focusing on the Uni market and not a blanket ad was maybe their misstep.  I would support my kids to do it, if it matched their ambitions.

 

Before claiming to understand where the illegality is have a read of the fair work position on it.

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/how-we-will-help/templates-and-guides/fact-sheets/unpaid-work/unpaid-work

From the original job ad it looked like it they wanted someone to stay on for a year with 10-25 contact hours asking for skilled graduates. There's nothing in the fair act about promising it to be permanent f/t work. 

Sure if you're at uni it might be great but once you word it like an opportunity for graduates it starts becoming unfair on as only people who are from privledged positions can really do it. Having to work 25 hours a week and having to do another job to support your life isnt very feasible. Only the kids with strong support structures (i.e living at home) have a shot. 

From reading the reddit post on this it seems like it is the norm for the industry. Pretty disappointing.

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4 hours ago, Ohio USA - David said:

I totally agree it is inappropriate and surely a development Coach could not apply himself 100% on 25 hrs a week to as low as 10 hrs a week. Poor judgment by the Club 

Ryan Reynolds and Ohio please  Read the Club post and response re this carefully.

Dont jump to conclusions it's not a slavery market you are both trying to portray!!
 

Also Ryan Reynolds saying about money in football !!!  Which rock have you been under (Uluru??) 

All clubs are looking to be creative in different areaS to save.

What about trainers they volunteer and Gain some experience That's not a 2 hour  a week job either!!

 

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Unbelievable, but then again it is MFC.

Plays to the elitist tag we so desperately need to be rid off. Blah, blah blah about being the oldest club is of no relevance to a tech student. How this wasnt organised through the channels of a TAFE or Uni is just incompetent. many courses have placement hours and this could and should have been done in the regular and compliant way. 

No problem with volunteers but surely that is for other roles around the club like lugging the equipment to Goschs paddock and the like. Where iss the Management oversight at the Club. just appalling. I will always support the Demons and the mighty red and blue but the MFC leaves me cold. 

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8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

This will go a long way in gaining Government Assistance for a Home Base

This Club has absolutely no idea about Marketing itself

It is almost Laughable 

Yes Sir it is laughable!

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I really don't get the outrage. if you want to work in a highly competitive area you need to go the extra mile. Volunteering a couple of days a week at an AFL club is a great opportunity. not like the course you would do is 40 hrs per week.

disgusting/mind-blowing?! if you don't want to do it, don't do it.

All clubs have been sacking coaches and FD staff and are seeing if any keen graduates are up for an opportunity.

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17 hours ago, rjay said:

The old play the free gig for exposure routine...

You can only live for so long on love then you gotta put food on the table.

 

Out in the wilderness, people die of exposure :)

 

 

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Where I live the university has run ads asking for sporting clubs (local and professional) to give their students the same opportunities the MFC had. This is just another example of how people want to find outrage in everything, as compared to seeing something for what it is. Sorry if I offend anyone with the type of font I'm using.

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21 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Where I live the university has run ads asking for sporting clubs (local and professional) to give their students the same opportunities the MFC had. This is just another example of how people want to find outrage in everything, as compared to seeing something for what it is. Sorry if I offend anyone with the type of font I'm using.

Please show us an example of what you speak/

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Storm in a tea cup.

Ad wording was poor but this type of thing is extremely common in professional industries.

I am with a decent sized financial advice firm and we have had a number of uni graduates do work experience with us, typically for 3 months.

It's becoming harder and harder to live in this PC, media saturated world.

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58 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Please show us an example of what you speak/

I'm not going to trawl through old papers to find an ad for you, but when I was involved with a local club (non footy) we were approached asking if we had things students could do to get their hours up, plus my kids are involved with little aths and they have students rotate through there occasionally and at their school they also have some attend to assist with P.E (and as far as I know it's a non-paid gig). This is a very very common thing.

Also the MFC didn't backtrack on the ad, they clarified for those who got offended. 

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36 minutes ago, Action Jackson said:

Storm in a tea cup.

Ad wording was poor but this type of thing is extremely common in professional industries.

I am with a decent sized financial advice firm and we have had a number of uni graduates do work experience with us, typically for 3 months.

It's becoming harder and harder to live in this PC, media saturated world.

This is not a work experience program set up by an educational institute or large corporation. It reads as work, no mention of mentoring 

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1 hour ago, Action Jackson said:

Storm in a tea cup.

Ad wording was poor but this type of thing is extremely common in professional industries.

I am with a decent sized financial advice firm and we have had a number of uni graduates do work experience with us, typically for 3 months.

It's becoming harder and harder to live in this PC, media saturated world.

When i did work experience many years ago (2-3 different stints) i was at least paid $50 a week which paid for lunch and Transport 

 

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21 hours ago, roy11 said:

The Club is taking a bit of a bashing on social media today.

 

See advert:

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I reckon this is a bit of a storm in a teacup.  While I understand that calling for students or "graduates" to volunteer 10-25 hours per week could be viewed as taking advantage of inexperience if recent graduates it probably reflects the reality that the work is suitable for students but that the club doesn't want to overlook recent graduates who otherwise couldn't gain paid experience in their field due to he impact of Covid on sporting clubs. Our club is pretty good on being responsible citizen and I think they deserve the benefit of doubt here.

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