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 A clearly frustrated Gil Mclachlan ??called a special media conference today to outline plans for a final 7 in 2021.  After years of trying to get the AFL creation called GC17 or the Suns into the finals, Gil has outlined how they will automatically finish no lower than 8th.

“ The Suns will be playing finals in 2021 “ said Gil ??proudly.” My team will be in the finals for the first time and we can all celebrate”. 

“After giving my boys, oops the Suns, lots of preferential treatment for years, I’m glad I can cut the BS and just allocate them a finals position “.  

“ I gave them all the salary room to get Gazza, the top 9 of 15 draft picks in 2011, extra draft concessions, a larger playing list for the past 9 years, extra access to state league players, access to their own Queensland zone, access to NT youngsters and even delivered the Rowell- Anderson combo to clearly show my uneven bias”.  

Away from the mic, Gil ??was overheard to say he had considered giving them 8 points for a win but that would be clear bias. 
 


 

I know we want a National competition and competitive teams but when are the Suns going to stop getting assistance off the AFL.  It was announced today, they can have 49 players compared to 44 at other clubs. All the concessions.  It’s wearing thin imv. 

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In all seriousness they asked for 1 priority pick last year. The AFL said year, and gave them a package that included:

- Pick 2 (2019)
- Pick 20 (2019)
- Pick 11 (2020) - traded for Matt Sharp
- Pick 19 (2021) - possibly stripped at a later date

Free listing of academy players
Budarick (2019) - 2nd or 3rd rounder
Rosas (2019) - 2nd or 3rd rounder
Alex Davies - likely first round pick
Joel Jeffery - likely pick 10-30
Brodie Lake - late round pick

It's the most ridiculous and massive draft haul that all but guarantees success.

And yes, the AFL has gifted them 49 list spots because they've given them all these extra players for free, they have to have the list spots to keep them. It's disgusting.

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It isn't really a big deal. 

A problem was that a huge number of their players were contracted into 2021 and beyond so couldn't get from 51 to 44 and maintain commitments to players and the draft.

They have lost 2 list spots and will lose more in the next few years to reach the same level as other clubs.

They still have to work to the same sal cap as everyone else.  And they can only field 22 player each week.

Not worth worrying about.

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Money is tight and patience must surely be wearing thin. I wonder at what point the AFL will pull the pin on this misadventure. Can’t keep throwing good money after bad. The current group of youngsters up there look promising and Dew seems a reasonable coach but if they go through another cycle of failing to make finals, subsequently losing their best players and bottoming out again the AFL will have to make the hard call.

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1 hour ago, Better days ahead said:

Money is tight and patience must surely be wearing thin. I wonder at what point the AFL will pull the pin on this misadventure. Can’t keep throwing good money after bad. The current group of youngsters up there look promising and Dew seems a reasonable coach but if they go through another cycle of failing to make finals, subsequently losing their best players and bottoming out again the AFL will have to make the hard call.

It won't be while McLachlan and Goyer are at the helm.  They don't want blood on their hands to be part of their legacy.

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3 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

Money is tight and patience must surely be wearing thin. I wonder at what point the AFL will pull the pin on this misadventure. Can’t keep throwing good money after bad. The current group of youngsters up there look promising and Dew seems a reasonable coach but if they go through another cycle of failing to make finals, subsequently losing their best players and bottoming out again the AFL will have to make the hard call.

But is that the net effect? It's also possible that having a second team in Qld makes money for the AFL from broadcast rights and national sponsorship deals. Reducing Qld to a single team might end up costing the AFL more than the cost of keeping the Suns afloat. 

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

It won't be while McLachlan and Goyer are at the helm.  They don't want blood on their hands to be part of their legacy.

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8 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

But is that the net effect? It's also possible that having a second team in Qld makes money for the AFL from broadcast rights and national sponsorship deals. Reducing Qld to a single team might end up costing the AFL more than the cost of keeping the Suns afloat. 

there was a a report not last year but the year before, i think, that the net cost to the afl of running gc17 and gw$ has far exceeded the broadcast revenue uplift that their existence has brought in

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30 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

But is that the net effect? It's also possible that having a second team in Qld makes money for the AFL from broadcast rights and national sponsorship deals. Reducing Qld to a single team might end up costing the AFL more than the cost of keeping the Suns afloat. 

Not sure how the broadcast rights work but typically bigger clubs and bigger games attract a greater share. There would be benefit in having the 18th team as you have more games to include in the package but I doubt GC games are all that attractive. I don’t have details so happy to be corrected on this point.

There’s also an opportunity cost involved in backing GC when the AFL could be investing in a different team and location. I reckon Tassie will end up with one of North or GC but I thought a second team in Brisbane city is a better option. Creates some cross town rivalry similar to Adelaide and Perth.  GC has already had a failed A-league franchise and the titans are run by the NRL so even in a rugby league state the GC can’t support a team.

After 10 years it’s past time to accept failure and move on imv. There’s no shame in failure but there comes a point when reality needs to be acknowledged.

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2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

After the role Queensland played in the 2020 Season, the GC Suns won’t be going anywhere for a long time

Agreed. So much $$$ invested and surely with all the multiple concessions and priority picks over many years, they should be very very good in about another 12-18 months. Get Rowell back for 2021. 

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