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13 hours ago, Pates said:

I wouldn’t be against it (I think I may have suggested it earlier!) but hearing about him being involved in that car accident, sounds like he still has some growing up to do. 

I hope the club reaches out to him though. 

He's 29. Does anyone "grow up" any further once they've reached this age?

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4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

He's 29. Does anyone "grow up" any further once they've reached this age?

funny question, ldvc.

of course some do

especially those who marry and start a family after that age, for example. there are myriad other reasons too

don't forget jacky boy has spent all his post high school years in the afl  fantasy "bubble"

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Just now, daisycutter said:

funny question, ldvc.

of course some do

especially those who marry and start a family after that age, for example. there are myriad other reasons too

don't forget jacky boy has spent all his post high school years in the afl  fantasy "bubble"

Agreed. You've made some good points here. Especially the one about being in the AFL bubble. I hope he has a successful post-AFL career and life, whether it requires any growing up or not.

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6 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Agreed. You've made some good points here. Especially the one about being in the AFL bubble. I hope he has a successful post-AFL career and life, whether it requires any growing up or not.

I suppose what I mean by growing up is acting like the adult that he is and making better choices. I think he spent a large amount of formative adult years 18-21 being told “you’ll be a superstar” and probably surrounding himself with enablers, there are plenty of people out there that reach the age of 29 but still act like they’re 18. 

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On 9/29/2020 at 6:46 PM, Elegt said:

People on here still seem to think he is a top bloke

Elegt, too many of your posts are couched in absolutes. i.e referring to Tom Mc Donald as a 'disgrace to the jumper'....just to name one. There have been others.

Here's my take. People make mistakes. And it's possible to make mistakes and still be 'a top bloke'. These things are not mutually exclusive. I'd argue that it's fluid for all of us.

There's a trend on social media to damn people for all eternity for real and perceived indiscretions. You appear to have embraced this 'cancel culture' and run with it here on Demonland. That's your right of course, it's a forum. But it's (for mine) joyless. And, at it's heart, lazy.

 

 

 

 

 

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On 9/23/2020 at 9:00 PM, Demon3 said:

Its so funny that a player like Jack had such an impact on me and the supporters. For me, he is up there with Jeff Farmer as my favourite Demon ever. Played in constantly bad teams under bad coaches and bad regimes.. yet smiled his way through it, was always polite and positive and when your kids love a player like you do, then you know the impact he has had.

Wish him nothing but the best, a class act on and off the field. 

Very well said.  A great bloke and an excellent footballer who should be still with the club.  With him playing this year, I am sure his class would have gotten us those extra wins and had us in the eight! 

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On 9/24/2020 at 9:56 PM, Return to Glory said:

Essentially, this post is [censored].

Dr D, in one of his inane, ill-conceived posts mentions (forgive me if it's not word for word) that Jack Watts 'just wasn't that good a player'. You signalled a 'like'. So if that's the case, I can't possibly see how you could have been a fan at all.

So you weren't a fan. Whoops, you were a fan. But I'll cover my bases with some holier than thou virtue signalling.

So quickly remove your 'like' and you've essentially covered your tracks.

 

 

 

 

 

wait, so you think Watts was a good player? 

For all the [censored] that Weideman gets he is miles ahead of watts and attacks the ball 100 times harder. 

Peoples infatuation with Watts is a clear example of fans' inability to concede that some players just dont work out. and don't give me games played nonsense. he was gifted most of them in a team that was bottom 4.

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On 10/2/2020 at 8:56 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

He's 29. Does anyone "grow up" any further once they've reached this age?

I haven't stopped growing up since I was 25 and the penny finally dropped for me. Surely 29 isn't beyond the pale.

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4 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

wait, so you think Watts was a good player? 

For all the [censored] that Weideman gets he is miles ahead of watts and attacks the ball 100 times harder. 

Peoples infatuation with Watts is a clear example of fans' inability to concede that some players just dont work out. and don't give me games played nonsense. he was gifted most of them in a team that was bottom 4.

Sorry Dr D, I was just hanging my Jack Watts collage on the wall. What are you rambling on about this time?

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Jack Watts - what a lad? Still a young bloke who enjoys life. He never had the steel to take his game to the top level.  
 

Always thought footy was secondary.  Jack loves golf and hanging out with family and friends.  And mostly his mates from school and footy. 
 

He was a good player. That’s not to be questioned.  His goalkicking was elite.  
He had such talent.  Perhaps unfulfilled certainly.  
 

He is welcome back at Demonville any day.  Perhaps a future MC for club events.  

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1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Jack Watts - what a lad? Still a young bloke who enjoys life. He never had the steel to take his game to the top level.  
 

Always thought footy was secondary.  Jack loves golf and hanging out with family and friends.  And mostly his mates from school and footy. 
 

He was a good player. That’s not to be questioned.  His goalkicking was elite.  
He had such talent.  Perhaps unfulfilled certainly.  
 

He is welcome back at Demonville any day.  Perhaps a future MC for club events.  

ask afl fans from other clubs. watts wasn't considered a good player. and rightly so

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2 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

ask afl fans from other clubs. watts wasn't considered a good player. and rightly so

Well, that settles it. They would know having watched all his games.

I get that you don't rate Jack Watts. What I don't get are your desperate attempts to get people to agree with you (which includes 'open your eyes' comments) ...on a Melbourne supporter forum. 

You asked whether I thought Watts was a good player. Yes, I thought Watts was a good player. At times, he was also a match winner.

You can make absurd 'Weideman attacks the ball 100 times harder' statements but that just reinforces that you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not even sure why you thought to bring another player into it.

 

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3 hours ago, Dr.D said:

wait, so you think Watts was a good player? 

For all the [censored] that Weideman gets he is miles ahead of watts and attacks the ball 100 times harder. 

Peoples infatuation with Watts is a clear example of fans' inability to concede that some players just dont work out. and don't give me games played nonsense. he was gifted most of them in a team that was bottom 4.

You really are a clueless nincompoop.

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Just now, Cards13 said:

What did he say DS?

I didn't listen to the full thing but the club posted a clip which was just Gawn and Wattsy having a laugh over Watts getting absolutely blitzed at Max's wedding. Whilst Gus watches on thinking wow what a great time.

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1 hour ago, Cranky Franky said:

You really are a clueless nincompoop.

He was traded for pick 31 in his prime. That's where melbourne rated him and port Adelaide. I personally thought it was a steal for us. You can't carry blokes that don't attack the football. 

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l don't buy that Jack was played too early and it hampered his development line. Luke Jackson competes fine in his 1st year and played earlier than watts. Jack just didn't have the work ethic, grit and competitiveness but he did have amazing talent. Jack will continue to drift through life in my opinion, hopefully staying happy and safe

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3 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

l don't buy that Jack was played too early and it hampered his development line. Luke Jackson competes fine in his 1st year and played earlier than watts. Jack just didn't have the work ethic, grit and competitiveness but he did have amazing talent. Jack will continue to drift through life in my opinion, hopefully staying happy and safe

Yep. Wattsy had amazing talent (balance) but not the drive...

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3 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

l don't buy that Jack was played too early and it hampered his development line. Luke Jackson competes fine in his 1st year and played earlier than watts. Jack just didn't have the work ethic, grit and competitiveness but he did have amazing talent. Jack will continue to drift through life in my opinion, hopefully staying happy and safe

from memory, didn't he kick 5 shortly before in the vfl? he was ready to go

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On 10/9/2020 at 6:45 PM, Return to Glory said:

 

Elegt, too many of your posts are couched in absolutes. i.e referring to Tom Mc Donald as a 'disgrace to the jumper'....just to name one. There have been others.

Here's my take. People make mistakes. And it's possible to make mistakes and still be 'a top bloke'. These things are not mutually exclusive. I'd argue that it's fluid for all of us.

There's a trend on social media to damn people for all eternity for real and perceived indiscretions. You appear to have embraced this 'cancel culture' and run with it here on Demonland. That's your right of course, it's a forum. But it's (for mine) joyless. And, at it's heart, lazy.

 

 

 

 

 

Seems like the mods here love censoring anything that goes against popular opinion. I never swore or abused Jack, I just voiced my freedom of speech to say I thought he wasn't a great bloke. Didn't realise this forum was so censored

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56 minutes ago, Elegt said:

Seems like the mods here love censoring anything that goes against popular opinion. I never swore or abused Jack, I just voiced my freedom of speech to say I thought he wasn't a great bloke. Didn't realise this forum was so censored

No idea what you said and it’s been said before but it’s not free speech on here when the owners of the site can be taken to court for what is posted here.
 

It’s not the Wild West of that putrid thing facebook or twitter. Demonland is an incredible place for us to talk rubbish and pontificate but it can no longer go into some areas. Grow up or go start your own site.

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22 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I didn't listen to the full thing but the club posted a clip which was just Gawn and Wattsy having a laugh over Watts getting absolutely blitzed at Max's wedding. Whilst Gus watches on thinking wow what a great time.

I did watch the thing and I didn't get exactly the same impression as that.  It did seem to me that Max and Watts were pretty good mates and that Maxy doesn't mind having a good time on the turps from time to time during the off season.  But I think Max's professionalism in his personal fitness and football over the past 3 or 4 years has been exceptional to a level that I don't get the impression Jack ever came near.  I think Max's team mates would respect the example that he sets of professionalism during the season, but also being able to be a fun and relatable guy within sensible limits when it's time to switch off.

I've got zero concerns about Gus.  He gives me the impression that he's a pretty smart guy and solid citizen with his head screwed on well.

I've always thought Jack offered us something on the field worthy of his place in the side.  Probably never lived up to the superstar expectations that were put on him, but a decient player none the less.

After he was delisted by Port and subsequently retired, I did wounder if he'd could be worth us taking another punt on, particularly on the basis of his elite delivery into the forward line and goal kicking.  But I must say watching his performance on the captain's run podcast, that certainly left me with the impression that he is more focused on life outside football his motivation levels to play are not there.

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