North Axes 11

[Demonland 64,729]

Feel free to start some individual threads. 

[adonski 9,131]

A real sliding Daws moment here. Don’t know who half these people are but anyone of interest?

[roy11 2,924]

[old55 21,256]

I've taken some interest in them because of their "death-riding" our pick this year.  They've ended up with the two 1st rounders they hoped for but they haven't got them the way they thought they would.

Their list is in a world of hurt over the next period. 

They've got a strong 29+ group and a promising under 23 group but they've got a hole in the middle the size of the Grand Canyon.

I make that they only have 5 AFL standard players in the 23-28yo age group: Anderson, Polec, Dumont, Ben Brown and McDonald.  They are trying to trade 2 of them.  That's the group that's going to take them forward for the next 5 years.  There's going to be a lot of pain over that period. 

They do have a good chance to come out of it strongly with the drafting opportunities they will have added to their decent under 23s.

But then in the big picture you've got to ask whether a minnow club can survive 5 ugly years in these desperate times.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Pollyanna

[Rab D Nesbitt 7,105]

Brutal. I thought Dom Tyson might've been on that list but I think he is still under contract and could be on half decent coin. How many will that be once you add required players that might want out ? 

[Dr.D 1,771]

I could think of 11 from the dees that could go too. Good call from North, no point keeping mediocrity around. May as well bring in kids thatare hungry 

[ProperDee 1,698]

Mason Wood maybe worth a look.  Could be a player in a new environment.  Has the skills. Good size.

[picket fence 15,097]

1 minute ago, Dr.D said:

I could think of 11 from the dees that could go too. Good call from North, no point keeping mediocrity around. May as well bring in kids thatare hungry 

Care to name the 11?? I reckon they would be similar to mine!

[Wiseblood 24,636]

12 minutes ago, ProperDee said:

Mason Wood maybe worth a look.  Could be a player in a new environment.  Has the skills. Good size.

Not a chance.  Doesn't strike me as a bloke who wants it enough and would fit in at our club.

I wouldn't touch any of those 11 listed.  We should be targeting blokes who are going to help us now by being part of our best 25-27 players.  None of those above would really fit that criteria.

Good on them for going hard with the clean out, but as @Pollyanna said, they are in for a world of hurt in the coming years.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

11 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Care to name the 11?? I reckon they would be similar to mine!

Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo and Clarry Clarry Choo Choo?

[layzie 28,682]

Gee that's a fair few careers over in an instant. 

[picket fence 15,097]

11 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Not a chance.  Doesn't strike me as a bloke who wants it enough and would fit in at our club.

I wouldn't touch any of those 11 listed.  We should be targeting blokes who are going to help us now by being part of our best 25-27 players.  None of those above would really fit that criteria.

Good on them for going hard with the clean out, but as @Pollyanna said, they are in for a world of hurt in the coming years.

So are we if we keep the deadwood we have accumulated!

[layzie 28,682]

Oh yeah and no, not one of them interests me. 

[Moonshadow 16,157]

4 minutes ago, picket fence said:

So are we if we keep the deadwood we have accumulated!

I thought this was about Norf?

That's one hell of a clearout. I guess with lists apparently shrinking they've got in early. 

Is Daw worth considering if he's in the right space for a restart?

Edited September 18, 2020 by Moonshadow

[BW511 2,241]

Fairly brutal from North.

At least they finally have the stones to start again properly 

[Bitter but optimistic 21,235]

18 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo, Spargo and Clarry Clarry Choo Choo?

Now don't go stirring up @picket fencefence Wise.

He'll get on the vino and we'll never shut him up!

[dazzledavey36 48,705]

The only one that I would look as a depth back up would maybe be Marley William. Tough quick left footer who would slot into that back pocket.

[Lord Travis 10,158]

Pittard is better defensive depth than Joel Smith and the Wagners etc.

Williams would also bolster our small defender stocks, which are quite limited.

We need tall forward depth full stop, so Wood on zero coin adds to depth with Mitch Brown and possibly TMac probably gone end of year.

Ahern was a top ten draft pick for the Giants, then came back to VIC. He struggled to get his body right, but has talent and was a goal kicking midfielder at underage level. He also had a 37 disposal, 12 clearance game against Premiers West Coast in 2018, so capable when fit. We could do worse for midfield depth.

Jacobs was a good player before injury in 2018. Haven't seen him since and is probably cooked. Wouldn't bother with any of the others.

 

Edited September 18, 2020 by Lord Travis

[spirit of norm smith 12,886]

Marley Williams. There must be some issue. He looks okay and fits one of our needs.  Small defender.  Tough player. Good pace and long left foot kick. 
 

He was very good at the Pies and shifted to North. He was supposedly in a good space with Rhys Shaw as coach as he had a good bond from the Filthy pies connection.  

[Little Goffy 12,548]

The closest I got to being interested in them was 'hmmm, ah, hmmm, nah, nope'.

Couple might be of interest when freed of injury curses but even then they don't look like hiddens gems so much as unearthed bronze. There's no readings on the Bennell-o-metre, so to speak.

On the bright side for Norf, those delistings aren't going to be ripping the heart out of their 22 or anything. They do certainly have a challenge to manage some kind of competitive level as their current young players and the wave of incoming kids develop.

I wonder if they'll continue to throw fat contracts at mid-level players to try to top up in the meantime? It could affect a few of our own list decisions if we can respectfully move on a few of our 'adequate but unreliable' players currently in the bottom third of our best 22.

[Nelo 813]

Bit of a garage sale, a whole lot of rubbish. 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

52 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Marley Williams. There must be some issue. He looks okay and fits one of our needs.  Small defender.  Tough player. Good pace and long left foot kick. 
 

He was very good at the Pies and shifted to North. He was supposedly in a good space with Rhys Shaw as coach as he had a good bond from the Filthy pies connection.  

If he did all these things well, then he wouldn't be in and out of a side that's won just three games this year.

To me, he really isn't a whole lot of an upgrade on someone like Josh Wagner.  He isn't worth a second glance.

[Bizzell Blitz 26]

Utter rubbish 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,925]

This is just like the Salvos chucking out goods donated to them. Nothing of worth.

[Skuit 9,166]

Don't ever recall such a clean-out on day one of post-season. Add in any retirements and wantaways (even more likely now) and trades and with reduced lists it could be a more than 50% list turnover in one year. That's insane.

Where are they going to find enough replacements? It's not like they're an attractive destination (and even moreso now) and it could be a limited draft still. Seriously? What's the strategy? They have two first rounders and a second rounder (25). 

That's three potentially decent future players. Maybe downgrade 2 or package 2 & 10 for another first-round pick. Add a top speculative pick in the rookie draft (or pull a Carlton). They don't have any father-sons or academy's that I can recall. 

Five or six youngsters. Trade out Polec and Brown for a couple more second-rounders? Their remaining picks are junk. One evident free-agency player coming in. And then what? Fill the list with low-level castaways from other clubs?  

Build a war-chest to go for for top-level talent in the future lol. North's mid-term future looks bleaker than ours ever did even in the darkest hours. They are well and truly bottoming out and at a bad time and I can only see AFL intervention ahead.