Jump to content

  • Podcast: Gary Pert Interview    

  • Podcast: Gary Pert Interview    

Trade Targets


Flag Favourites 3019
 Share


Recommended Posts

Backs

Adam Saad

Age: 26

Games: 108

Role: attacking defender

Pros: speed, disposal

Cons: price

Zac Williams

Age: 25

Games: 112

Role: attacking defender

Pros: speed, disposal

Cons: price

Forwards

Jeremy Cameron

Age: 27

Games: 170

Role: tall agile forward

Pros: goals, experience

Cons: very pricey

Jack Gunston

Age: 28

Games: 207

Role: tall agile forward

Pros: goals, experience

Cons: getting on

Middle

Isaac Smith

Age: 31

Games: 210

Role: winger

Pros: endurance, disposal, experience

Cons: really getting on

Andrew Gaff

Age: 28

Games: 213

Role: winger

Pros: endurance, experience

Cons: very pricey

  • Like 3
  • Haha 1
  • Shocked 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Giants: Isaac Cumming 21yo.
Running small defender 184cm. 84 kgs. 4 years at Giants but stuck behind Williams and Heath Shaw.  With the sun setting on Jetta and Lockhart seemingly not in favour, Dees could grab Cumming. He’d fit really well into our defence.  Could even get a shot as a running mid. Good pace.
How to get it done ?
- Offer a 3 year deal.  Giants won’t offer that. Trade options. Swap for Preuss or Swap for Joel Smith. Or trade 3rd round (hopefully acquired for ANB back to Crows). 

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Giants: Isaac Cumming 21yo.
Running small defender 184cm. 84 kgs. 4 years at Giants but stuck behind Williams and Heath Shaw.  With the sun setting on Jetta and Lockhart seemingly not in favour, Dees could grab Cumming. He’d fit really well into our defence.  Could even get a shot as a running mid. Good pace.
How to get it done ?
- Offer a 3 year deal.  Giants won’t offer that. Trade options. Swap for Preuss or Swap for Joel Smith. Or trade 3rd round (hopefully acquired for ANB back to Crows). 

Doubt we'd offer 3 years for a guy who has played 9 games of AFL and has been average at best.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Imagine a half back line with Saad and Williams on it. we'd immediately become on of the best rebound teams in the comp. 

It'd be costly. but if we could somehow get those two guys, and another wingman. it'd be a great result.

Think Williams might go elsewhere though

We have the basis of an outstanding defence, and yes, one dasher down there would be the icing on the cake. Might have been Hunt - once, but they've turned him into a mediocre half forward. (Disposal isn't good enough, too.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Redlagged said:

We have the basis of an outstanding defence, and yes, one dasher down there would be the icing on the cake. Might have been Hunt - once, but they've turned him into a mediocre half forward. (Disposal isn't good enough, too.)

I really do hope they go at Williams hard I don’t see Saad leaving. Williams will make a huge difference to our run and carry - where we have been turning it over so badly. Forward half turnovers are bad but defensive half turnover especially in transition will hurt you even more. This is where we have been terrible this year.

 

getting Isaac smith wouldn’t be the worst option either. We can use him to mentor and develop our wingers. Personally I think Fritsch would be a model wingman if he developed better endurance. He is a good mark, good field kick and a good decision maker. 

Edited by CYB
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/17/2020 at 9:06 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

Giants: Isaac Cumming 21yo.
Running small defender 184cm. 84 kgs. 4 years at Giants but stuck behind Williams and Heath Shaw.  With the sun setting on Jetta and Lockhart seemingly not in favour, Dees could grab Cumming. He’d fit really well into our defence.  Could even get a shot as a running mid. Good pace.
How to get it done ?
- Offer a 3 year deal.  Giants won’t offer that. Trade options. Swap for Preuss or Swap for Joel Smith. Or trade 3rd round (hopefully acquired for ANB back to Crows). 

He played last night v the Saints although tough night for the giants.  16 possessions.  Looked comfortable and his pace and skills were certainly up to it.    I’m still looking at Cumming as an option for the small defender role. It appears Lockhart must have scratched Goodys car because he’s seemingly out of favour with the coach. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jeremy Cameron has looked about as out of form this season as Tom McDonald has for us.  His fall from grace has been even worse, considering he won the Coleman just last year.

To me it suggests that it might not be such a bad idea persevering with Mc Donald, as even the best players have had years.  I'm not sure that McDonald's mobility has been his No.1 issue this year.  He's got himself around the ground and to the right spots often enough, he just hasn't had the confidence to regularly clunck big marks inside 50, which had become one of his hallmarks.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/17/2020 at 4:08 PM, CYB said:

I really do hope they go at Williams hard I don’t see Saad leaving. Williams will make a huge difference to our run and carry - where we have been turning it over so badly. Forward half turnovers are bad but defensive half turnover especially in transition will hurt you even more. This is where we have been terrible this year.

 

getting Isaac smith wouldn’t be the worst option either. We can use him to mentor and develop our wingers. Personally I think Fritsch would be a model wingman if he developed better endurance. He is a good mark, good field kick and a good decision maker. 

Williams apparently has offers up to 900k a year from Carlton and North, I'd say his bags are packed for Carlton to play midfield. As a defender Saad is every bit as good as Williams and appears frustrated with Essendon's direction, i'd say he's very gettable. I'd like us to chase another forward as well as Saad, Gunston would be my choice since he is a proven 40 goal a year forward and won't cost an arm and a leg.

Edited by Gawndog98
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Gawndog98 said:

Williams apparently has offers up to 900k a year from Carlton and North, I'd say his bags are packed for Carlton to play midfield. As a defender Saad is every bit as good as Williams and appears frustrated with Essendon's direction, i'd say he's very gettable. I'd like us to chase another forward as well as Saad, Gunston would be my choice since he is a proven 40 goal a year forward and won't cost an arm and a leg.

The talk on Gunston is promising but we have plenty of mid size forwards in stock. Milkshake, Fritsch and Hannan. Also throw Smith into the mix. We would have to get rid of at least one of those if we were to chase Gunston.

I wouldn’t mind experimenting with Fritsch on the wing - but he needs a lot of work on endurance if he is to keep up with Langdon. So hard call on the others. Hannan or Smith probably needs to go.

i dont think Carlton will bid on Williams they honestly can not afford him unless they are paying the rest of the team 200-300K. Remember they are paying Martin close to a million and they have Cripps on their books as well plus the other half a dozen other commanding player.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, CYB said:

The talk on Gunston is promising but we have plenty of mid size forwards in stock. Milkshake, Fritsch and Hannan. Also throw Smith into the mix. We would have to get rid of at least one of those if we were to chase Gunston.

I wouldn’t mind experimenting with Fritsch on the wing - but he needs a lot of work on endurance if he is to keep up with Langdon. So hard call on the others. Hannan or Smith probably needs to go.

i dont think Carlton will bid on Williams they honestly can not afford him unless they are paying the rest of the team 200-300K. Remember they are paying Martin close to a million and they have Cripps on their books as well plus the other half a dozen other commanding player.

Kreuzer and Simpson just retired and others will go as well. Remember, they were hoping to get Papley.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, CYB said:

The talk on Gunston is promising but we have plenty of mid size forwards in stock. Milkshake, Fritsch and Hannan. Also throw Smith into the mix. We would have to get rid of at least one of those if we were to chase Gunston.

I wouldn’t mind experimenting with Fritsch on the wing - but he needs a lot of work on endurance if he is to keep up with Langdon. So hard call on the others. Hannan or Smith probably needs to go.

i dont think Carlton will bid on Williams they honestly can not afford him unless they are paying the rest of the team 200-300K. Remember they are paying Martin close to a million and they have Cripps on their books as well plus the other half a dozen other commanding player.

Apart from Fritsch, Gunston is miles ahead of the others. He's also more a key position player and would drag the number 1 defender away from Weid and Fritsch. Martin had a massively front ended deal, they were paying him 1mil this year and the rest will be sub 500k if my memory is correct, Carlton would have some significant cap space. I wouldn't be offering Williams anything more than 650k, gets massively hyped up because he's a free agent, Saad is every bit as good as him.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/19/2020 at 8:43 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

He played last night v the Saints although tough night for the giants.  16 possessions.  Looked comfortable and his pace and skills were certainly up to it.    I’m still looking at Cumming as an option for the small defender role. It appears Lockhart must have scratched Goodys car because he’s seemingly out of favour with the coach. 

94% DE  

11kicks to 5handballs   

available cheaply   

improves our side   

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/19/2020 at 10:50 AM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

interesting that we're not being linked with any of the gw$ players who are on the wantaway market

I think we have to be very strategic as we've got very little currency to play with at the moment.

Both McDonalds will go and so if we can get picks for them, we might be able to package a deal.

Edited by A F
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, A F said:

I think we have to be very strategic as we've got very little currency to play with at the moment.

Both McDonald's will go and so if we can get picks for them, we might be able to package a deal.

No way we hold onto the future first I reckon. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    CAT SKINNING by George On The Outer

    When they defeated the Geelong Cats in the 2021 AFL Preliminary Final on Friday night in Perth, Melbourne proved that there is more than one way to skin those cats.  They did it in the ruck and in the middle, they did it in the forward line, they did it in defence and around the ground, but importantly, each and every player a Demon guernsey spent his night at Optus Stadium skinning an opponent. Following the after-the-siren win against Geelong in Round 23, there was an expectation of

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE POINTY END by The Oracle

    The AFL’s two oldest clubs, Melbourne and Geelong, face off on Friday evening in a sudden death Preliminary Final. It’s a game that promises plenty in terms of fascination and intrigue as a result of the rivalry that’s been building between the teams over recent encounters that have been tight struggles which have gone to the wire with two of them decided by after-the-siren goals. The added touch of mystery attached to this week’s meeting comes by virtue of the fact that it’s going to take

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE VFL YEAR THAT NEVER WAS by KC from Casey

    The rising case numbers and the continuing lockdowns in Victoria and NSW spelled doom for the 2021 VFL season which went through a slow, painful demise before its recent official cancellation. After weeks of indecision, the AFL decided to pull the plug on the season with the 10-0 Bulldogs recognised as minor premier, but without a premiership cup and without awarding the J.J. Liston Medal for the best and fairest VFL player. It was somewhat fortuitous for the integrity of the competition t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    TAMING THE LIONS by George On The Outer

    With nine finals debutants in the side, the Melbourne Football Club had a daunting assignment ahead of it in the First Qualifying Final — to overcome the competition’s highest scoring side, the Brisbane Lions. In the end, the Demons accomplished the task by putting the bite on their opponents on their way to taming the Lions and recording a 33 point win that propelled them into one the two Preliminary Finals of 2021.   It was one of those debutants, Luke Jackson, who put the bite in more

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    RETURN TO NEVERLAND by Whispering Jack

    The greatest Demon A HIGHWAY OF DEMONS by Whispering Jack CHAPTER SIXTEEN - RETURN TO NEVERLAND  I have a six year old grandson who recently took up the family tradition of following the Demons. He had his first taste of the game a few years ago when he went to the “G” with his parents to watch the 107-point massacre of Carlton and he went to another game in the following season which was also a W for the Dees. But his appetite for the club has grown exponentially this year and wh

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features 13

    METAMORPHOSIS by Whispering Jack

    I’ve always believed that when the home and away matches come to an end, the football season takes on a completely different shape and character. During the regular season, each team’s goals progress as the weeks pass and if you’re good enough to survive and make the grade, the situation changes. The comparison can be made with the life cycle of a butterfly going through stages from egg to larva to caterpillar, cocoon and in the end to a bright and colourful creature that emerges from darkness i

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    STEALING THE CATS’ CREAM by George On The Outer

    They were leading by 44 points well into the third quarter of a game to decide the minor premier, having kicked nine unanswered goals. The Cats were about to lap up their bowl of cream, dreaming of next week but the Demons led by Max Gawn had other ideas. In a stunning finish, they stole the game from under them to claim the plaudits as best team and top of ladder position. In a remarkable game, it all came down to Max having to kick the winning goal after the final siren, something which s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    SKIN THE CATS by Whispering Jack

    The task ahead for the Demons as they wend their way down the Princes Freeway to Geelong on Saturday night will be to skin the Cats. For them to come away with the points from this game would mark an historic occasion for the club as it will finish on top of the ladder for the first time since its last premiership year, 1964. And it was in that year, that a trip to Corio Bay to meet the reigning premiers in Round 12, was one of the catalysts for Melbourne’s surge to the flag. It was a top o

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    REACH FOR THE STARS by George on the Outer

    It was a game of great significance for the Melbourne Football Club. A win would see them keep top spot on the ladder with one round remaining. To achieve top place in the Round for Reach when we are all inspired to “Be Like Jim” and reach for the stars was a great way of honouring one of our heroes. All the better given that it was done by way of an emphatic 41 point win against Adelaide! It is worth remembering that, but for the umpiring mistake in the previous encounter with the Crows, t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    TICKETS PLEASE by The Oracle

    A lot of water has passed under Princes Bridge in the five years since Melbourne last met Adelaide on the MCG. The Crows were riding high at the time while the Demons were mid-table and scrambling for a win to stay in the race for the finals. The 30,000 fans who had tickets to the game were thoroughly entertained by a close, high scoring affair that ended in tears for fans of the home team. Not even an eight-goal second term could help them.   Times have changed.    In the fi

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    ELECTRIFYING by George On The Outer

    What more can they throw at the Demons of 2021? Covid restrictions, hubs, aircraft circling between airports before landing for games and now a match stopped for 30 minutes to give a flagging opponent its second wind? To date, none of those distractions has swayed the team from their winning objectives. The game against West Coast in Perth can be marked on their report card as another positive outcome after yet another test. There was much at stake for both sides.  Melbourne had t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    LONG AGO AND FAR AWAY by Whispering Jack

    When the combatants that are due to face off on Monday night at Optus Stadium last met, it was 11 days after the World Health Organization had declared the Covid19 outbreak a global pandemic. In Australia, the first cases had just come to light, including visiting US actors Tom Hanks and wife Rita Wilson, the toilet paper panic was in full flight and the world was starting to reel in anticipation of impending disaster. Half an hour before this last game of the opening round was due to comme

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...