POSTGAME: Rd 17 vs GWS

[leave it to deever 15,317]

19 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

More likely Hibberd, Lockhart (if he's ever allowed out of the doghouse) will take Jetta's spot.

I do hope Jetta returns to his old form.

He has been an incredible player and maybe still will be.

[loges 6,021]

9 hours ago, binman said:

Who is a chance to come back in next week.

Bad week for Weed to play his third shocker in a row

Afraid Weid has regressed to his 2019 form. Even if he is down on confidence he must raise his intensity.

[raDeelaide 214]

Mitch Brown should play more often. He runs hard up the field to provide a contest. 

[Biffen 12,323]

16 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

GWS tried their guts out last night.  Much like us they had been pretty average the last few weeks and were not getting team efforts.  They looked a 10 goal better team on paper imo.  Had we played like last few weeks it would have got ugly.  We fought hard and more than anything it gives us hope for the future.  One of best games we played all year vs a decent opposition who turned up to play.  That in itself for MFC should enthuse you. 

Too little ,Too late .

Watching the Sydney and Freo Games drained me of any enthusiasm,hope,or optomism for the future under the current coaching set-up.

It was like being bled to death by leeches.

Edited September 12, 2020 by Biffen
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[Biffen 12,323]

2 minutes ago, raDeelaide said:

Mitch Brown should play more often. He runs hard up the field to provide a contest. 

Yes-hes 30 but we save him till the end of the year.Run around like headless chooks for the season with inexperience everywhere instead.

Another strange one.

[NeveroddoreveN 1,034]

2 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Too little ,Too late .

Watching ther Sydeny and Freo Games drained me of any enthusiasm,hope,or optomism for the future under the current coaching set-up.

It was like being bled to death by leeches.

We'll get in some good assistant coaches at least after the year we have had.  Maybe another video series in 2021 to give you some hope. To Hell and Beyond! 

[Half forward flank 1,022]

Great win, Great coaching from the opening with Trac forward. Young blokes showed some dash and dare.

Likely shows how unbalanced we were playing all of Trac, Oliver, Viney, Harmes, Brayshaw and Jones. Individually good but to much of a likeness.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,161]

15 minutes ago, loges said:

Afraid Weid has regressed to his 2019 form. Even if he is down on confidence he must raise his intensity.

I dont think its confidence. Maybe we should consider in a shortened year the young 40 game player who has been the key target in 11 straight games may be tiring? Its not like with LJ and Petty out and TMacs form we’ve had viable options to give him a rest. He has clearly dropped off his impact but his effort is still there and he is halving more contests than not. Hopefully a weeks break will recharge him for the Bombers. 

[gs77 3,295]

42 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

What about?

Didn't seem to be anything specific. Looked to me like he wasn't entertaining leading questions setting any kind of press narrative. E.g  towards the end was asked about Rivers' game and if we had "a find" as though it was luck, which he shot down as being due to the good work of our recruitment team.

 He seemed short and to the point, less meandering cliches, perhaps reflecting the team's focus on next week and the job not yet being done.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,161]

2 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Great win, Great coaching from the opening with Trac forward. Young blokes showed some dash and dare.

Likely shows how unbalanced we were playing all of Trac, Oliver, Viney, Harmes, Brayshaw and Jones. Individually good but to much of a likeness.

Whilst he is not directly having a massive impact. Melksham into the midfield in a defensive role improved both our midfield and forward dynamic tonight. 

[sue 8,418]

52 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

How good was it to see him on the boundary at the end, like a “football” manager pacing the sidelines. It looks like he should do it more often as he seems to get his message across better and faster to the group. 

Does the AFL have a ban on coaches using megaphones?  Either that or a lot of coaches are getting laryngitis for little effect.  Wouldn't make much sense when there is a crowd but this year, why not?

[Half forward flank 1,022]

4 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Whilst he is not directly having a massive impact. Melksham into the midfield in a defensive role improved both our midfield and forward dynamic tonight. 

Yes, I have always thought we can get carried away with midfielders for just getting touches. Especially rucking to Max. I love to see it mixed up. 

[deanox 8,565]

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

When I saw that I couldn’t believe it was allowed, isn’t the free supposed to go to the player who won the free ie Trac should have been called back to take his free? Or was it an advantage play on? Even then I thought it had to be Trac to take the ball to take the advantage.

I thought the same thing. It is ok only if it's called advantage but I didn't think they did. Wrong decision by the umpires. 

 

There was also a bizarre call against GWS early "you can't handball to a player who is crossing the mark", and I am 99.9% sure than is not a real rule (unless it's been added in recent seasons).

Edited September 12, 2020 by deanox

[Dr.D 1,771]

16 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Too little ,Too late .

Watching the Sydney and Freo Games drained me of any enthusiasm,hope,or optomism for the future under the current coaching set-up.

It was like being bled to death by leeches.

totally agree. The Sydney and Freo games taught us that we have a soft underbelly and whilst some supporters have a short memory, those performances are the reasons we missed finals. We'll never go anywhere with Goodwin at the helm. 

[sue 8,418]

Was pleased to see that Max whacked the ball forward a couple of times at bounces.

[Dr.D 1,771]

Can someone please tell me how AFL listed players can set up at a stoppage like this? When your season is on the line with 17 seconds to go and we're up by 5 points we set up with this trash! This is a knock on the players and Goodwin.

The issues are as follows:

- Literally no-one on Kelly at the stoppage. Who was arguably their best player on the night.

-Petracca not playing goal side of Tom Green. He isn't even next to him. Tom Green wins the clearance gets the ball moving forward.

 -Langdon guards space and allows Perryman to run unmanned into the stoppage and get to the ball.

This is commonsense fellas and it's reasons like this that cost us clearance and games time and time again.

How is this commonsense not engrained in the players yet.

[doc roet 1,199]

5 minutes ago, sue said:

Was pleased to see that Max whacked the ball forward a couple of times at bounces.

Noticed that, changed it up a lot from his regular little tap downs .Great to see.

[Melbournepotter 264]

52 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Someone mentioned that some of the coaches thought our midfield was uncoachable.  Would not surprise me if that revolved around JV.  If there was any truth to it anyway!  See Clayton and Petracca as absolutely coachable.  Brayshaw also seems like a smart guy and although a bit lethargic at times totally coachable too.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was Viney.  I love his effort and endevour to get the ball and his courage cant be questioned but especially against GWS i thought his disposal was quite poor and resulted in a lot of turnovers. I include getting caught with the ball in the turnovers. it may be that he is carrying an injury, i thought at times last year he did have good evasive skills but last night       didnt show that a lot.  As someone else said, he needs to realise and then play within his limitations. 

[low flying Robbo 979]

15 minutes ago, deanox said:

I thought the same thing. It is ok only if it's called advantage but I didn't think they did. Wrong decision by the umpires. 

 

There was also a bizarre call against GWS early "you can't handball to a player who is crossing the mark", and I am 99.9% sure than is not a real rule (unless it's been added in recent seasons).

I think it was clear enough that Weid was Clearly going to get the loose ball and have the advantage. The umps took a long time to think about it and eventually paid it. Surprising, normally we would get screwed by this

[low flying Robbo 979]

2 hours ago, Bates Mate said:

Took the nuffy channel 7 commentators until second 1/2 game to know what they were for.

It looked totally unprofessional when they were wondering why we were wearing it in the first quarter. It seems commentators don’t bother with doing their homework these days. The club media made it very clear what the jumper meant during the week. 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,579]

Liked Spargo's game again last night.  To me he has got back pretty close to his 2018 form this season and shown that he has a place in the side aging forward.  Tough, uses the ball well and knows how to kick goals.

[3183 Dee 2,602]

What I liked most about last night, was the energy and enthusiasm of the young guys. Rivers is going to be a gun, as will Pickett, but I loved the work rate of Baker and Spargo. I had written them off as NQRs, but clearly they need to be given more time in the team. That type of win will be good for them. 
 

Looking at things in a rose-tinted kind of way, we POTENTIALLY have a great core of young talent coming through. As long as they can be coached well and nurtured correctly and included by the senior players, we will have a very good list emerging. 
 

Rivers mentioned how much May has been helping him - we could do with a Maysie on each of our lines to help the younger guys: something we haven’t had for years - gun, older players to encourage and lead by example. 

 

[3183 Dee 2,602]

15 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Liked Spargo's game again last night.  To me he has got back pretty close to his 2018 form this season and shown that he has a place in the side aging forward.  Tough, uses the ball well and knows how to kick goals.

I thought so, too. I have to admit, I’d written him off and, while he is still inconsistent, his best is very good. Tough competitor, who is a smart footballer and good field kick, I was glad to see him kick that goal from distance - something he couldn’t have done in 2018.

[Kent 2,581]

1 hour ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Someone mentioned that some of the coaches thought our midfield was uncoachable.  Would not surprise me if that revolved around JV.  If there was any truth to it anyway!  See Clayton and Petracca as absolutely coachable.  Brayshaw also seems like a smart guy and although a bit lethargic at times totally coachable too.

I was told this by the coach involved why would he say it if it wasnt the case

[Mickey 4,173]

Was good to see Tracc have a go at Mumford after he smacked Clarry. He was clearly brought in to play the man, which he did often and without the umps pulling him up for it.