Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


CHANGES: Rd 13 vs Bulldogs


Demonland

Recommended Posts

4 hours ago, Demon_spurs said:

In: Hunt

Out: Tomlinson

I forgot Tomlinson was even playing till he bobbed up for a mark in the last quarter. Two pacy wingmen would be awesome.

So because you didn’t notice him he gets dropped? He is not even on the wing he is playing a key back role, which frees both Lever and May up. 
The game is not all about possessions.  

  • Like 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

I have been a critic of Fritsch for a while! Agree Down hill skier that misses far too many goals for my liking! Id almost go Harley for Fritsch! 

Oh one other thing Big Punky Pruesster plays instead of Mc Donald easily!

No chance, he offers so much more than Harley, stopped getting sucked in by the player he was.  Harley has rarely hit the scoreboard and Fritsch hits it every week.  

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, binman said:

Fritter is important for the forward structure.

And (I think) is our leading goal scorer.

And would be pretty high on our list of goal assists and score involvements.

And would probably be only behind the weed for rhe number of both contested marks and marks in general inside 50 per game.

Zero chance he gets dropped.

I must be watching a different game to some of our supporters.  Fritsch is a lock to play.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, Biffen said:

Yeah right.

We don't need any guys who just kick goals.

We can win it with missed set shots and sprayed snaps.

You do realise Fritsch has been going at 50% accuracy this year, right? You're basically describing his season when you say guys missing set shots and spraying snaps, which he's done consistently all season.

To make matters worse, when the ball hits the ground he's afraid of body contact.

  • Angry 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I was impressed by Fritsch coming up the ground and taking marks/ getting involved on the flanks. He was an important target out of the backline.

His pressure around the ball isn’t good at all  but he does chime in most weeks with a sneaky intercept when teams underrate his aerial ability and closing speed. The spoil and tap back to keep the ball in play yesterday was the latest example.

Obviously has to improve his pressure but if he can hit the scoreboard and be a good target up the ground he’ll be making a good contribution 

I agree, he's much better when he pushes up onto the wing and across half forward. When it goes deep into our forward 50 he's a liability at times IMO.

  • Like 2
  • Angry 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Demon_spurs said:

In: Hunt

Out: Tomlinson

I forgot Tomlinson was even playing till he bobbed up for a mark in the last quarter. Two pacy wingmen would be awesome.

Tomlinson is playing KPB and slowly settling into the zonal set ups back there. He's been solid with the exception of one kick into the corridor yesterday and being caught out of position in transition one other time that I noted.

If Hunt's going to make it, he should be looking very closely at the gut-running of Langdon and model his game on Ed's. He wouldn't be coming in for Tomlinson though. It'd be for someone like Jones.

Edited by A F
Link to comment
Share on other sites


2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

English might be more agile but he is incredibly soft. I remember watching footy classified months ago and he was highlighted with some soft weak efforts.

Pruess would only need to put a knee into him or rough him up around stoppages and I think English will turn to water.

It demonstrates the potential of Gawn and Preuss on occasion. Preuss to soften them up and then Max to dominate. Look out WC.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Would love to know from anyone why they think McDonald hold his spot? He is embarrassingly slow and his lateral movement reminds me of Cameron Ling with Osteitis pubis. i'm confident that if Tom McDonald came at me, I could side step him 3 times without even moving. A must drop

  • Angry 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

If Max is ready I reckon they may seriously consider dropping TMac and maintaining the big Preusster as the second ruck forward. He is definitely getting around the ground better for longer and would offer a true chopout and less game time reliance on Gawn. As the second forward (which TMac is only doing the bare minimum of) he just needs to get the ball to ground in 50 and would offer a true ruck for inside 50 stoppages for us to control. 

I reckon it will be well discussed during the week. 

Reckon that's a really dangerous move if we do it. Our forward system is finally working and despite doing some ordinary things, McDonald is at least bringing pressure at ground level and bringing the ball to ground inside 50. Unless we try playing Max at the forward and ruck 40% and Presuss the remainder. 

Still, I worry about teams rebounding against us if we're playing a ruckman who is not Luke Jackson as the second tall.

4 hours ago, binman said:

This is absolutely relevant. A massive factor and is the key reason I expected us to win.

I applied this same proviso to our port game. So only fair to apply it in tgis game.

 Like us v port you could see their fatigue from the get go. Mentally flat too.

The all team zones both (In fact most) teams employ simply don't work if every player down At do the massive running required or apply sufficient pressure on the ball carrier.

Ironically the port loss to cats was a carbon copy of ours to them. They simply did not spread or pressure close to the level required. Think of how many one out opportunities Hawkins had. Probably more than he has had all season combined. Port were as flat as pancakes after their win v the tigers

I'm not sure I could say the Port game and yesterday's were carbon copies. We barely mustered a jog against Port, yet Collingwood were strong around stoppage. We got them on transition and stifled their ability to move the ball.

I agree that they were undermanned and had less rest time, but even though their defence was untidy at times and certainly got lost in transition because it hadn't played regularly together, I don't believe even with Roughead and Howe in that those two would have been able to stop a lot of our ball movement forward, which was excellent.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

Seems odd to me, the fuss made about Collingwood's 4 games in 14 days.

It was also our fourth game in 16 days and fifth game in 20 days.

I dont think the issue is four games in 14 days. It is the four day break.

Every team has struggled after the four day break. Port won but were far from their best. 

The pies looked as shagged as we did v port and it was obvious in both games 10 mins in who was going to win.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, binman said:

I dont think the issue is four games in 14 days. It is the four day break.

Every team has struggled after the four day break. Port won but were far from their best. 

The pies looked as shagged as we did v port and it was obvious in both games 10 mins in who was going to win.

Pies have been awful for a long time.  In the last 2 months their scores (in points) have been:  44, 62, 50, 49, 45, 57, 59, 48. 

The compressed fixture, travel and injuries have hurt them over the last 3-4 weeks but there is no reason for the poor form in the early days of hubs. 

I don't think they can improve enough to play finals.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, binman said:

I dont think the issue is four games in 14 days. It is the four day break.

Every team has struggled after the four day break. Port won but were far from their best. 

The pies looked as shagged as we did v port and it was obvious in both games 10 mins in who was going to win.

If this year was the experiment to work out how a midweek block of games was possible they’ve probably found out the 4 day breaks are maybe just too much for the athletic rigours of AFL. 

I didn’t think Tom was as awful as what some have said, maybe we give Brown a chance in his place but I wouldn’t be rushing to mess with the mix. I was worried about the functionality of the forward line as previous occasions it’s looked like Tom and Weid got in each other’s way, but they seemed to have more defined space and there is connectivity between forwards and mids. 

With the calls to drop Tommo, again maybe I can see where it’s coming from but the team defence was held up as a reason for our upward trajectory so again I wouldn’t want to mess with it. I think trialling Tommo in defence is worth it, he’s got the size and athleticism, seems to have a good footy brain, it’s just his kicking that is a real worry at times. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Yes he did against North on the wing

AFL stats say Tmac took zero contested marks against North and Collingwood the last 2 weeks 

Unless Max is absolutely cherry ripe and assuming we have no further injury issues during the week, I'd like to see no change

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Something to ponder; the Dogs have probably found some form after smashing the Crows, especially the mids. If Gawn plays, he’ll no doubt dominate hit outs and it’ll cause some real predictably at the stoppages. The Dogs mids will just look to shark his taps and they won’t even bother reading English’s. I still think Gawn plays if he’s fit, but I just hope the connection between him and our mids is there on Saturday.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Something to ponder; the Dogs have probably found some form after smashing the Crows, especially the mids. If Gawn plays, he’ll no doubt dominate hit outs and it’ll cause some real predictably at the stoppages. The Dogs mids will just look to shark his taps and they won’t even bother reading English’s. I still think Gawn plays if he’s fit, but I just hope the connection between him and our mids is there on Saturday.

If hes not fit I'm down for a Pruess V English battle

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


20 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

In: Gawn

Out: Preuss

I’m not sure Bennell warrants selection again just yet. The only potential outs would be Tomlinson maybe Sparrow.

Totally agree re: Bennell. Until he's ready to put his body on the line, we're only adding a passenger.

I understand why he's be uncomfortable throwing himself around, chasing and tackling etc. but our game plan depends on effort from every single player on the field.

Edited by Cheesy D. Pun
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Another huge game for us. A win and we go 4 points up plus 20+ % Infront of the dogs whilst being a game behind them. Would make it near impossible for them to leap frog us on the ladder given they will only have 4 games to play to our 5. 

If Gawn is 100% he comes in if not and other week off. I'm sure we will rotate another player or two. 

Will be a cracking game next week

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Something to ponder; the Dogs have probably found some form after smashing the Crows, especially the mids. If Gawn plays, he’ll no doubt dominate hit outs and it’ll cause some real predictably at the stoppages. The Dogs mids will just look to shark his taps and they won’t even bother reading English’s. I still think Gawn plays if he’s fit, but I just hope the connection between him and our mids is there on Saturday.

The stuff about us not taking advantage of Max's taps is a bit overplayed.

A good example - during the Brisbane game, our boys read and received just about every first tap but fumbled in dewy conditions. Brisbane were smart in the way they approached it but they sharked the ball from our mids, not the ruck contest.

I don't think there is a prominent example where sharking Max's taps directly from the ruck contest has caused a genuine clearance win to the opposition.

Our mids need to be on song and if it's wet, we need to be a little more circumspect when approaching the first possession, instead of going all guns blazing and fumbling to the opposition sweating on us.

 

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

45 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

AFL stats say Tmac took zero contested marks against North and Collingwood the last 2 weeks 

Unless Max is absolutely cherry ripe and assuming we have no further injury issues during the week, I'd like to see no change

Well the vision I watched, obviously they regarded it as a clean mark, even though there were players around

Of course Goodwin says, you don't have to mark, just a contest and bring the smalls into play, which is exactly what he did against Collingwood

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all.    On that rainy Friday night at the Adelaide Oval, Ken Hinkley’s young midfield secured much more than four points on offer. The victory over one of the big dogs of the competition after a succession of wins over some of its lesser lights gave his team respect and validation fo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Monday 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training. DEMON DYNASTY'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kade Chandler's left knee heavily strapped. BBB, Spargs & Jake Lever also in rehab group. Jake Bowey solo running separate kicking/sprint/agility drills. Super fine morning / early arvo at Gosch's for the boys to blow out some cobwebs. Choco initially had the light duties / rehab group

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter. By the time they worked out it was game on, their opponents from Box Hill had accumulated five goals and, if the game wasn’t over, it might as well have been. For a se

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head. The Demons have now won nine of their last ten encounters with the other result, a draw.     And like a fork, it was the multi-pronged options that Melbourne had all across the ground.  It certainly helped that Hawthorn

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 8

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in the Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 262

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 25th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Hawks in the Round 02. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 46

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 357

    GAMEDAY: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 437
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 03

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 03 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 03

  • Match Preview      

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 03

       vs   

    Saturday 30th March 2024
    @ 07:30pm (AO)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 2-4 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 7 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
    9 Jack Billings 10
    9 Alex Neal-Bullen 10

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...