CHANGES: Rd 12 vs Collingwood

[Young Blood 1,982]

1 hour ago, binman said:

I suspect goody really values Lockart's ferocity and  i reckon he is a lock to come back in. You might be right Rivers could go out. Which would be shame for him. Love that he carries the ball forward and takes aggressive options with his kicks. Confident player who looks a real player.

But they are coming off a four day break, whereas we have had six days and i'm sure Goody will look to press home that advantage look to physically smash them. So happy for riv to take break and come back in soon.

As you mentioned in previous post it absolutely should be Harmes coming out of the side for Lockart. They've tried him as a rebounding half back and it just hasn't work. His form has been way off for weeks. He looks lost at time and hasn't been effective at all. I would love to see Rivers stay in to move up into Harmes' position with his attack and ball use across half back. Leave Lockart to play deeper back against their best small forward.

I can see Rivers getting a rest also as you say but he only just came back in and it seems Goody is giving the rookies a couple of weeks at a time before resting ala Kozzy.

[3183 Dee 2,602]

This is exactly the sort of game that we have historically given a limp showing after a couple of good performances. It’s incredible to think that we see Jackson as a big out already, but he is clearly something special. As well as his ability, he has a real boundless enthusiasm for the game - a bit like Clarry, Petracca, Viney, Pickett etc. which I don’t see in the likes of TMac, Melksham etc. Hopefully his out doesn’t change the positive dynamics of the team.

[Young Blood 1,982]

23 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

This is exactly the sort of game that we have historically given a limp showing after a couple of good performances. It’s incredible to think that we see Jackson as a big out already, but he is clearly something special. As well as his ability, he has a real boundless enthusiasm for the game - a bit like Clarry, Petracca, Viney, Pickett etc. which I don’t see in the likes of TMac, Melksham etc. Hopefully his out doesn’t change the positive dynamics of the team.

We're 4 wins 2 losses with Jackson in the side and those loses were top 4 sides (one of which we totally fell apart as a team).

Not for a second saying he's the difference but he has brought that extra energy to the side you mention above. As Goody has noted post games he gives us great structure in being a good forward target and adequate ruckman already. His height and athletisism make him a real problem for opposition across the ground. I've loved his repeat efforts and the way he covers ground with pace. He impacts contests whether in the air or on on ground level. Adelaide was obviously his best game but I thought he was great against North even though he didn't impact statistically. Most of his possessions were clean and provided a great contest across the ground.

It really sucks that its a hamstring tendon. I was hoping for a light strain. As Burgo mentioned he will be lucky to be back with 6 weeks. They will be extra cautious with a young guy with this much potential suffering a soft tissue injury so early. We will miss that energy.

Edited August 14, 2020 by Yung Blood

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

So it wasnt a bad dream, we really have lost LJ to a bad hammy.    Impossible to replace his athleticism/size/unpredictability.   What a blow.  Put him on the shelf so hes 100% ready for preseason.

 The show must go on and the good news is the holy trinity of Tracca/Oliver/Brsyshaw are ready to take over the league.  Thats where we will win games.

Edited August 14, 2020 by Pickett2Jackson

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,392]

2 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

So it wasnt a bad dream, we really have lost LJ to a bad hammy.    Impossible to replace his athleticism/size/unpredictability.   What a blow.  Put him on the shelf so hes 100% ready for preseason.

 The show must go on and the good news is the holy trinity of Tracca/Oliver/Brsyshaw are ready to take over the league.  Thats where we will win games.

You need to think more positively. Forget the preseason...have him ready for the 2020 Grand Final!

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

3 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You need to think more positively. Forget the preseason...have him ready for the 2020 Grand Final!

Yes but if theyre saying its a hamstring tendon injury I think 6 weeks is a pipe dream.  Just look at anyone whos had a similar injury and how long theyve missed.

Perhaps its very minor but its still a delicate injury and hes a teenager and possibly our greatest asset all things considered.

[roy11 2,924]

at times like this I wish the AFL added an extra interchange option instead of having shorter games. Would be easier to bring in Preuss that way.

 

Have enough pinch-hitting options though, curious to see who we go with

[DubDee 20,441]

On the positive note, this highlights how good Jackson has been. A month ago we were thinking he is too raw to even get a game and now he is a massive loss. 
imagine him in 2-3 years with some size on him! 

[The Swimming Dee 1,836]

1 hour ago, 3183 Dee said:

This is exactly the sort of game that we have historically given a limp showing after a couple of good performances. It’s incredible to think that we see Jackson as a big out already, but he is clearly something special. As well as his ability, he has a real boundless enthusiasm for the game - a bit like Clarry, Petracca, Viney, Pickett etc. which I don’t see in the likes of TMac, Melksham etc. Hopefully his out doesn’t change the positive dynamics of the team.

Jackson is a pure competitor. You can see that is how he is built. I think it may be his greatest trait as a player

[chook fowler 18,187]

10 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

Jackson is a pure competitor. You can see that is how he is built. I think it may be his greatest trait as a player

plus his mental attributes of being intense but controlled so he doesn't go OTT, also his mobility and coordination are very good. The full package really.

[Hogan2014 390]

Jackson game time mgt wasn’t great either was Gawn... Gawn should have been rested vs the crows & then Jackson rested the North game, 4 day breaks, 1st year player etc Everyone will say hindsight is great but reckon hasn’t been managed well eg pies rested a number of players against the crows... 

[Robbie57 1,990]

Jackson's second efforts and ability to stay in the contest were a delight to watch. Lockhart doesn't come back until he is fully fit, ditto Gawn. I thought TMac was ok for us last week so he stays in a forward role. I am not convinced Tomlinson is a back but he is a utility option for us.  I would get Harmes to tag as it builds his confidence, often when he has been in that role he bobs up for great goal. Pruess take your shot! The question is who comes out for Bennell, who gives us more foot skill and class going forward. 

 

[Engorged Onion 9,253]

5 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

Jackson game time mgt wasn’t great either was Gawn... Gawn should have been rested vs the crows & then Jackson rested the North game, 4 day breaks, 1st year player etc Everyone will say hindsight is great but reckon hasn’t been managed well eg pies rested a number of players against the crows... 

Can you give the stats for Jackson's time management. Just so I can cross reference it with the standard form for 1st year players, that is sent out to all AFL clubs and their supporters.

Everyone's wise in retrospect @Hogan2014.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

2 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

Jackson's second efforts and ability to stay in the contest were a delight to watch. Lockhart doesn't come back until he is fully fit, ditto Gawn. I thought TMac was ok for us last week so he stays in a forward role. I am not convinced Tomlinson is a back but he is a utility option for us.  I would get Harmes to tag as it builds his confidence, often when he has been in that role he bobs up for great goal. Pruess take your shot! The question is who comes out for Bennell, who gives us more foot skill and class going forward. 

 

Will be interesting to see if Bennell comes in.  He was poor against Adelaide besides that great goal.

He will have had 9 or 10 days rest though so he could be cherry ripe. 

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,416]

Just now, Engorged Onion said:

Can you give the stats for Jackson's time management. Just so I can cross reference it with the standard form for 1st year players, that is sent out to all AFL clubs and their supporters.

Everyone's wise in retrospect @Hogan2014.

Exactly. A lot of teams with a heap more injuries than us.

He's an 18 year old rucking in a compressed season. Unfortunately this type of thing happens.

Just have to make sure he gets his rehab right and give himself a shot at playing finals should we make it.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

Gawn won't play. Pretty reliable source.

 

[Grimes Times 1,278]

18 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Would rather Jack play mostly forward and share that role with Sparrow.  Adams is good but not worthy of a hard lock at this stage if that is what you were suggesting GT.  Harmes to the Bottom is a must imv.

I don't think the Pies will risk Pendles in this one unless he's cherry ripe.

head to head and accountable but no hard lock

[Megatron 834]

17 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Gawn won't play. Pretty reliable source.

 

Meanwhile they’ll get Pendlebury, Elliott, Hoskin-Elliott, Moore and Reid back.

This game has become even more important 

[Jaded No More 57,745]

20 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Gawn won't play. Pretty reliable source.

 

Any idea how many more weeks he’s likely to miss with the knee?

I think it’s a good choice to rest him this week. Don’t mess with knees, especially for a player with so many serious knee injuries under his belt. 
I rather he misses 3 weeks than 12 months. 

[Lord Nev 13,511]

3 minutes ago, Megatron said:

Meanwhile they’ll get Pendlebury, Elliott, Hoskin-Elliott, Moore and Reid back.

This game has become even more important 

Not a super reliable source, but have been told Pendles won't play.

Edit - Literally as I was typing that the same person told me the Pies will likely risk him this week. (Sorry)

 

Edited August 14, 2020 by Lord Nev

[Binmans PA 25,923]

13 hours ago, Pink Freud said:

The problem they have with picking Pendlebury is that he might be a bit underdone coming back early from injury. The same could apply with Hoskin-Elliot. They’re also coming off a 4 day break so they need every player at the top of his game. 

Ths weather could also play a big part with an expected wet track and strong winds.

We're stuffed then. We're hopeless in the wet.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

Just now, Jaded said:

Any idea how many more weeks he’s likely to miss with the knee?

I think it’s a good choice to rest him this week. Don’t mess with knees, especially for a player with so many serious knee injuries under his belt. 
I rather he misses 3 weeks than 12 months. 

Nah sorry, no idea. It felt like he was not too far off going by what Goodwin said during the week so fingers crossed he may be back for the next game, but that's just a guess.

[jnrmac 18,940]

17 hours ago, Demon_spurs said:

Nothing about Jackson on the MFC website, 3 hours after Brown announced in the media. Sometimes we get treated like junior clerks.

Seriously you need to get over this. There is a whole heap of reasons why

It may surprise you to know we are not the most important people at the football club that neeeds to know this stuff in the 5 mins after it happens.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

Pendlebury back  along with Reid, Elliott  WHE and Moore... just our luck.

 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2020 by Pickett2Jackson

[one_demon 826]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

...imagine him in 2-3 years with some size on him! 

Imagine how good Jackson will be in five years time when he's playing for West Coast or Fremantle 

Edited August 14, 2020 by one_demon