Assistant Coaches 2021

[Binmans PA 25,897]

48 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Going for one out of the box Gary Ayres as an assistant....

Can you pop him back in the box, please? Been out of the elite game for too long.

[Hellofatime 83]

On 8/2/2020 at 7:29 AM, Pickett2Jackson said:

Is Alan Richardson an assistant coach or is he some kind of mentor for Goodwin?  Whats his official job title?

No idea why we got him...   he gave off Neeld vibes when at the Saints.

 

We got him because we like to continue with a losing fashion and he has form.

[Binmans PA 25,897]

12 minutes ago, Hellofatime said:

We got him because we like to continue with a losing fashion and he has form.

Yeah, great contribution.

[Hellofatime 83]

On 8/1/2020 at 9:19 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

Which was conducted by Josh Mahoney..

Go figure hey.

Very well said, and accurate.  Maybe Goodwin was more comfortable in having an understudy with less credentials and little chance of taking his job!

[Dr evil 1,185]

3 hours ago, A F said:

More just that it's unlikely assistants will commit to roles at other clubs if there's a senior position at stake. 

This is exactly it. Don’t expect any announcements until the north position is either narrowed or filled. But we’re looking at making some changes. 
 

[DeeSpencer 23,060]

1 hour ago, A F said:

Can you pop him back in the box, please? Been out of the elite game for too long.

I think experienced state league coaches are undervalued. It's one step down from the top stuff and things float down pretty quickly. They routinely beat the hot shot assistants that clubs have take on VFL duties. It's just a matter of knowing and finding a role for them.

I still think Choc Williams is one of the best skill coaches in the game but he's not easy to work with so GWS and Richmond moved on, but whether it was 1950 or 2050 I'd have him as a skill development coach.

Ayres' time at Port Melbourne indicates to me he's a strong man manager and good culture guy. In the right role that's worth far more than keeping up with game trends that are often changing. I doubt he wants to come back in to the system or if we have the right role but I wouldn't overlook strong state league coaches.

[dee-tox 4,772]

I sometimes think we get obsessed with the playing achievements of assistant coaches. At Hawthorn and the Swans, VFA legend and Coodabeens member George Stone was involved in six flags. He was very well regarded and respected and was one of the first Roos called on when coming to Melbourne.

The fundamentals of football don't change. Execute the fundamentals well and you are well on the way to having a good side. For that reason I think there is still a place for experienced assistant coaches like Williams and Ayres. 

[Rednblueriseing 646]

On 10/22/2020 at 5:12 PM, JimmyGadson said:

No worries.

I'll get the thread back on topic.

I think we've missed McCartney's presence at the club enormously and it's time we bring in some quality around Goodwin. 

We need some fresh faces, ideas and people who command genuine respect so that some of those wayward players on our list get back on the straight and narrow.

I understand that positions will be reduced but we need some quality personnel in and around our playing group if we're any shot at some success. 

Agree my short list would be..

Voss

Hodge 

R Harvey

And try get N Balm back as head of football, probably the most important position we need experience 

[58er 5,593]

16 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Salem has the potential to be kicking a lot of goals and being a serious weapon for us, just as Yze was.

PJ I would like to see Salem on the HFF really as he upped his competitiveness and urgency after halfway of 2020.

Maybe a stint on the ball and in the centre and also the FOrward Pocket would translate into a very dangerous goal kicker.

With Rivers  and Lockhart coming on I reckon we can move Salo to where he can do maximum damage on the scoreboard Its generally easier to Find a HB flanker from your list.

[demon3165 1,908]

13 hours ago, A F said:

Can you pop him back in the box, please? Been out of the elite game for too long.

Oh sorry about that forgot he has been coaching at the second level at a non aligned football club that has been punching above it's weight for years now must be some sort of bad communicator to last this long, no let's not think outside the box .

[Binmans PA 25,897]

I never rated him when he was in the big time,  but each to their own.

[McQueen 17,862]

So what's the status?

Confirmation of Goodwin and Yze with the rest up in the air or already terminated?

[Dannyz 2,301]

18 minutes ago, McQueen said:

So what's the status?

Confirmation of Goodwin and Yze with the rest up in the air or already terminated?

Up in the air until Pert's review is delivered to the board.

The talk is the writing is on the wall for Matthews & Plapp. Rooke is gone and the VFL coach will have no AFL based duties. 

[Demonland 64,416]

 

[Binmans PA 25,897]

42 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Hi Tom. We've been proposing that for a while on Demonland.

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

49 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

'Footy Manager'. 

I wonder if he means the Josh Mahoney role of General Manager - Football  and Casey Operations or the Daniel Mcpherson role of Manager -  Football Operations and AFLW, who reports to Mahoney.

Or even the Peter Maynard role General Manager - Casey Football.  And there is the role of Garry O'Sullivan of Casey Football Manager

Looks like a fair bit of overlap there.  Would expect some rationalisation of the non-player side of FD positions to meet the FD soft cap.

 

Edited October 29, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[Demonstone 19,050]

6 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Or even the Peter Maynard role

Is that the same Peter Maynard who played for Melbourne in the early 80s and is the father of former Demon Corey and current Magpie Brayden?

[Binmans PA 25,897]

5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

'Footy Manager'. 

I wonder if he means the Josh Mahoney's role of General Manager - Football  and Casey Operations or the Daniel Mcpherson role of Manager -  Football Operations and AFLW, who reports to Mahoney.

Or even the Peter Maynard role General Manager - Casey Football.

 

I reckon Richo and Mahoney will both report to Green and the board. This acknowledges Mahoney's good work as a list manager but adds more accountability to Richo, so there's less Goodwin/Mahoney groupthink. Pure speculation, but it'll be interesting to see if this is where it lands.

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

2 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Is that the same Peter Maynard who played for Melbourne in the early 80s and is the father of former Demon Corey and current Magpie Brayden?

Correct on all counts.

[DeeSpencer 23,060]

Mahoney to North and Richo in to his job has been doing the rounds. 

Personally I’d see that as a mistake. Richo’s a coach, find him some players to coach up. Don’t shoehorn him in to a different job 

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

4 minutes ago, A F said:

I reckon Richo and Mahoney will both report to Green and the board. This acknowledges Mahoney's good work as a list manager but adds more accountability to Richo, so there's less Goodwin/Mahoney groupthink. Pure speculation, but it'll be interesting to see if this is where it lands.

What!  Split Mahoney's job in two and create another football GM and add more 'overhead' at a time when the soft cap is being cut by ~ 30%.  Doubt it.

[old55 21,216]

Josh Mahoney to Essendon?

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

Hawks going with a very slimmed down coaching panel:

Hawthorn has finalised its 2021 coaching structure, with club great Sam Mitchell to become head of development, while Chris Newman, Brendon Bolton and Craig McRae will be assistants under senior coach Alastair Clarkson.

 

As part of the role, Mitchell will also be the senior coach of VFL affiliate Box Hill.

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

Contracts officially end on Saturday, Oct 31 so we should hear of those departing in the next day or two (even if we don't hear who the replacements are).

[old dee 22,815]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Contracts officially end on Saturday, Oct 31 so we should hear of those departing in the next day or two (even if we don't hear who the replacements are).

I thought all FD people had to be advised by the end of August if they were not required the following year. This was to ensure they had the best chance of getting a job  for the following year. Is this still correct ?

Edited October 29, 2020 by old dee