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Timing of Barletts tirade is appropriate but unfoirtunate. Watch the team beat up on lowly adelaide and pump themselves up again. Lets see him continue with the pressure against a top side.

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2 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Good. He could have pulled on the Jumper and had a better game than Harmes

Harmes was a supporter and now is living the dream which has turned into a mare, he should've come out before the Port gamme and said I'm badly out of form drop me.

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22 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

I think he said on the demonland podcast that they are having a review at the end of the season.  
 

IMO Goodwins job is far from safe if we continue to produce performances like Thursday night. 
 

The rest of the season (not the next 2 weeks against out of form opposition) will show us where we are at and if the players are behind goody or not. 
 

Timing is critical as there are quality coaches around that could be gettable. 

 

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Happy to have heard this coming out of the club's leadership. One of the first times i can remember the club acknowledging that the time for excuses is gone, and also calling out the players for what was a straight up soft performance. We have seen many of these efforts over the years and I'm buggered if i known why our players continually get away with it.

Next step just banish any players who are sooking it up about their role or the coach or whatever else they want to sook about...tail has wagged the dog for way too long.

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The players were [censored] during the game.  However, when under pressure you revert to your training, what has been ingrained into you.  This is how the military works, under fire you execute your training/structure to whatever you have been trained to.  Basically the lowest common denominator or training.   What we saw with the team under pressure revert to the level of training / structure the coach has instilled in them.  

Yes there are contributing factors, but it is the coaching team & footy department who is ultimately responsible. 

 

 

 

 

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This team has a history of coming out in key games and not performing.

2016 - Carlton with 2 rounds to go and with 2 wins a fair chance of finals. Absolutely flat.

2017 - last round vs Pies. A win and we’re playing finals. Didn’t turn up.

2018 - prelim.

2019 - 

2020 - a chance to atone. We’ve only really performed for 1 qtr vs Blues, played ok vs Suns and well against a rabble which is the Hawks. Goody pointing to us being just about there, or just off, vs Brisbane is a joke because we were deplorable for 2 qtrs of footy. And didn’t turn up at all on Thursday. We’re barely flat track bullies.

This is not a new problem. What has the club done in the last 4 yrs under Goody to embed a ruthless mindset? I can’t see it.

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Jeebus.

I usually don’t like the public calling out stuff, but I couldn’t disagree with any of this.  He must be incredibly frustrated as, behind the scenes (sponsorship, fundraising, etc), things are going alright considering the state of the world.  To then see what the players dished up on Thursday must be as deflating for him as it was for us.

 

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Good response by Glen but in the immortal words of Barry (not Bryce )Gibb " it's only words and words are all i have....."Lets see if at last there is some action starting  at this weeks selection table .

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Seen it all before.  Next.

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Yeah yeah...putrid performance, scathing reviews,  all of sudden we're motivated, then we win the next game.

Long-term nothing changes

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3 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Good!

We saw Port at 9 goals up with 5 minutes to go continuing to hunt us in packs and smashing us with their tackling. 

Players and coaches always say they don’t listen to outside ‘noise’, well hopefully this makes them feel like we feel all the bloody time.

Yeah well I hope you are right and dont give us the "Fuguzi" response!!

 

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Well, those comments will put the 'kumbaya' singing supporters on the back foot !! You know "you couldn't do better" ... "the players don't try to deliberately lose" types ...

I'm loathe to wear my Demons cap when going for my daily walk. Not exactly something to wear with pride.  😞

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I could understand (not accept) if a handful of players were lethargic but for about 16 of 22 players to go soft is inexplicable.

Lethargy in the last quarter, perhaps but to surrender from the first bounce is indefensible. 

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21 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

This team has a history of coming out in key games and not performing.

2016 - Carlton with 2 rounds to go and with 2 wins a fair chance of finals. Absolutely flat.

2017 - last round vs Pies. A win and we’re playing finals. Didn’t turn up.

2018 - prelim.

2019 - 

2020 - a chance to atone. We’ve only really performed for 1 qtr vs Blues, played ok vs Suns and well against a rabble which is the Hawks. Goody pointing to us being just about there, or just off, vs Brisbane is a joke because we were deplorable for 2 qtrs of footy. And didn’t turn up at all on Thursday. We’re barely flat track bullies.

This is not a new problem. What has the club done in the last 4 yrs under Goody to embed a ruthless mindset? I can’t see it.

2017 was interesting...i went to the second last game against the lowly Lions at the MCG with a former Lions player. If we could win that one by 6+ goals the Pies  game wouldn't have mattered.

We were both gobsmacked the lack of competitive intensity from Melbourne. It legitimately looked like they couldn't be bothered. Think we eventually got 6 goals ahead then basically gave up and ended up scraping in by about 7 points. Was an embarassing effort from a team that we thought would be keen to get in the finals. 

We both walked away from the game saying the Lions will be up the top of the ladder before the Demons.

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Getting the crystal ball out, I firmly believe we will win our next 3 games. Alarm bells out if we lose to Adelaide or North. Collingwood are so depleted I think we will win that one. We will be in the mix for finals after that, still to play most teams around where we will be. Sadly, I can see us falling in a heap there, with typical losses to St Kilda and the Dogs (who generally beat us), probably beat Freo unless it's in Perth (I expect it'll be in the NT though), Essendon probably a 50/50 depending on their injury list, a flogging by GWS and who knows against Sydney. It will be touch and go whether we make finals. 

Despite all of that, ANYTHING but finals will be a massive failure. They talked the talk during the pre-season, putting together videos of redemption, blaming massive injuries for the 2019 failure. When you talk the talk, you have to walk the walk. Our injury list is arguably the best in the comp. The talent on the list also better than we are seeing.

Goodwin will be gone at the end of the season if we don't, at the very minimum, make the finals. Yes, it's a fair chunk of money to pay out, but that's better than the alternative, which will end up a lot more costly.

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13 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yeah well I hope you are right and dont give us the "Fuguzi" response!!

 

it's time for the "end hits"

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41 minutes ago, cantstandyasam said:

Harmes was a supporter and now is living the dream which has turned into a mare, he should've come out before the Port gamme and said I'm badly out of form drop me.

Harmes should be playing the tagging role and I bet my left nut he comes back into form. 
 

Goodwin what r u doing?????????

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5 minutes ago, rufus said:

2017 was interesting...i went to the second last game against the lowly Lions at the MCG with a former Lions player. If we could win that one by 6+ goals the Pies  game wouldn't have mattered.

We were both gobsmacked the lack of competitive intensity from Melbourne. It legitimately looked like they couldn't be bothered. Think we eventually got 6 goals ahead then basically gave up and ended up scraping in by about 7 points. Was an embarassing effort from a team that we thought would be keen to get in the finals. 

We both walked away from the game saying the Lions will be up the top of the ladder before the Demons.

How do we channel the demons of the 50’s where we lost a total of 6 games at the MCG across 6 seasons....

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its good to hear, and hopefully worse was said to the coaches.

 

But at the end of the day, its only words, nothing that hasnt been said by the supporters over the last 10 years.

 

No other club drops its bundle like us, it goes one of two ways, we smash Adelaide playing our brand and everything is ok for a couple of weeks, then back to "normal" OR we give Adelaide and North a win

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3 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

It's good to see to be honest.  Those quotes about probably encapsulate most of the things that have been posted on here in the last 36 hours.

One thing I got out of it was that he won't tolerate these sort of performances.  If they continue then I can see Bartlett swinging the axe and moving on as quickly as possible.  

However, you would like to think that in the coming weeks we'll make the right response and put Thursday night well and truly behind us.  I'm hopeful that it was the rocket we need to get ourselves into gear.

One would hope - if Bartlett's expressed sentiments are truthful - that Goodwin will be occupying that little chair in a big room before the whole MFC Board for hours, and hours, and hours answering questions and justifying his existence over and over again, just prior to being shown the door for the final time  (as Members in their droves have wished for ages, and ages, loss after loss).

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Well that should get the team fired up to beat the bottom side next week. 
The Football Department is on notice

These comments should have been made after the 2018 Preliminary Final, that is how culture is set. 

 

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18 minutes ago, rufus said:

2017 was interesting...i went to the second last game against the lowly Lions at the MCG with a former Lions player. If we could win that one by 6+ goals the Pies  game wouldn't have mattered.

We were both gobsmacked the lack of competitive intensity from Melbourne. It legitimately looked like they couldn't be bothered. Think we eventually got 6 goals ahead then basically gave up and ended up scraping in by about 7 points. Was an embarassing effort from a team that we thought would be keen to get in the finals. 

We both walked away from the game saying the Lions will be up the top of the ladder before the Demons.

That was not long after the players gave the Saints lip about 'where will you be in September' sh-t. 

They thought they had made finals and didn't need to make an effort.  Making finals was enough.  Big surprise was in store for the lads.  They didn't.

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About time the Prez launched on this pathetic mob.

The rabble on the field tho is the canary in the coal mine. They are not playing for the coach they are not playing for each other. there is dissent and confusion amongst the playing group.

A decent coach would have this team humming. We have the talent. It is being wasted because he can't after 4 years he can't solve the basic problems that we have:

Too many players crowding the ball

Delivery into fwd 50

Can't stick tackles

Can't stop teams switching

Can't stop teams chipping the ball and controlling the tempo

A single plan to kick in from a point - down the left hand side of the ground.

Can't work out a scheme to combat teams sharking to Max

Can't stop 3/4 players flying for a ball

 

There is no system, no belief, no heart, no leadership

 

Goodwin is cooked.

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22 minutes ago, rufus said:

2017 was interesting...i went to the second last game against the lowly Lions at the MCG with a former Lions player. If we could win that one by 6+ goals the Pies  game wouldn't have mattered.

We were both gobsmacked the lack of competitive intensity from Melbourne. It legitimately looked like they couldn't be bothered. Think we eventually got 6 goals ahead then basically gave up and ended up scraping in by about 7 points. Was an embarassing effort from a team that we thought would be keen to get in the finals. 

We both walked away from the game saying the Lions will be up the top of the ladder before the Demons.

And you would have said the same thing in the final round against Collingwood where we had ZERO tackles in the first 15 minutes. [censored] disgraceful and we missed the finals. Goodwin was let off and they even extended his contract the next seaso.!!!

Goodwin never reviewed the Prelim against West Coast by his own admission and players and Goodwin were again let off the hook

The standard you walk past is the standard you accept and we walk past a lt to accept mediocrity

Dunstall and Brereton have both said Melbourne players are happy to be AFL footballers but don't have the work eithic and hunger to be premiership players

I thnk Gawn and Petracca do, maybe Langdon, Hibberd and Viney but that's it. The rest just coast.

This team has the talent but it doens't have the killer instinct nor a decent coaching panel.

And Goodwin doesn't learn.

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