Josh Mahoney - The Secret Unlocked!

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13 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Pert called one of my family members in response to a polite but critical email his way after either the Geelong or Richmond loss.

He’s certainly engaged with the members, so credit to him in that department.

I really like the sound of that. I've been impressed with our commercial wins this year, particularly off the back of our horrendous 2019. Furphy is a good signature, and to get the gin company 78 Degrees on board, as a fundraiser myself, I know how difficult it is in the current environment.

I also like that he seems to be working quietly but diligently behind the scenes.

Anyway, well done @Jack Russell on getting these sponsors over the line.

Edited July 31, 2020 by A F

[faultydet 7,593]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I think young Ben spends quite a bit of time researching Demonland. 
He certainly didn’t hold back on the Questions

Good Stuff

 

"We need it to drive us"

1964 =Last flag

2020-1964 = 56yrs

Fancy a club that hasn't wont a flag sine 1964 saying that an insipid, gutless loss to a massively overrated team is a factor that "needs to drive us"

Get [censored] Melbourne. You don't deserve the memberships I buy every year. You are a [censored] joke.

 

 

 

[At the break of Gawn 3,474]

Like many others, I’m loving the direct questions from Ben. I feel like these sort of questions were missing over the years from our media dept.
 

[whatwhat say what 18,775]

good questions, well answered, other than when he said that you don't want to look at one game in isolation

while i agree with mahoney that for the most part we've been competitive in most games this year, it's not one game in isolation that is the issue - we see the same things happening time and time again

the constant inability to convert dominant f50 entries into scores is something that has clearly been a big issue for some time now, which is also something that the club has addressed previously directly to fans and within media circles - it's hardly some big secret that that and our inability to deal with a scintilla of pressure is a constant 

his support for goodwin is admirable and obviously necessary, but it just confirms in my mind that he can't be the footy ops boss - or whatever the title is - as goodwin goes into the final two years of his contract in 2021

Edited July 31, 2020 by whatwhatsaywhat

[Sir Why You Little 34,407]

10 minutes ago, faultydet said:

"We need it to drive us"

1964 =Last flag

2020-1964 = 56yrs

Fancy a club that hasn't wont a flag sine 1964 saying that an insipid, gutless loss to a massively overrated team is a factor that "needs to drive us"

Get [censored] Melbourne. You don't deserve the memberships I buy every year. You are a [censored] joke.

 

 

 

It is odd isn’t it

Turbulence will hit this little clique soon...

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34 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

And well done to Ben for interviewing a fired up Steve May last night . Made for very good viewing and Fox footy showed snippets of it today.

May was great in his interview. He said the sentence I’ve been waiting 2 years to hear...

’We know we’re not going to win the game by kicking long down the line’

Which then begs the question why do they do it so often?

[Soidee 1,496]

Mahoney has been at the club for a very long time.  What has he actually achieved as boss of the footy dept?  Headhunt the best footy dept boss going around to shake this joint into winning games.

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10 hours ago, Elegt said:

Ben is fantastic and im especially liking his pre game videos. Perhaps the best recruit for the dees at this point in time. Chuck him at FF! Can't do any worse than tmac

Elgit, his pregame videos are absolute mockers - he interviews Stafford about goal kicking and we miss everything against the Lions.  He interviews Plopp about forward structure and it sucks a big one against the Power.  Seems to have the kiss of death!

Edited July 31, 2020 by buck_nekkid
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[dazzledavey36 48,642]

I agree with the narrative on here.

I have voiced in the past that our media department has been the worst in the AFL by a mile.

Ever since Benny Gibson has jumped on board its given it a whole new dynamic.

So well done to you Benny and the rest of the media team.

Haven't had the chance to watch the Mahoney interview.  Will now.

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The two South Australians are joined at the hip. Mahoney is a salesman, plain and simple.

 

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Honestly the way I feel right now at the end of this year I'd be happy to see what we owe Mahoney, cut him a check and tell him to get out and never come back. Our trades have been average and we have given up too much over time for players like Lever and May. Our coaching staff is not up to standard and we are piddling away more money on a world renowned fitness coach.

 

It's been too long, time is up.

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On 8/1/2020 at 9:38 AM, Soidee said:

Mahoney has been at the club for a very long time.  What has he actually achieved as boss of the footy dept?  Headhunt the best footy dept boss going around to shake this joint into winning games.

I think he's a respected, smart operator when it comes to trade time. Posters that say we get bent over, I think are being harsh. He gets deals done and had we got the coaching and fitness side of things right (which is definitely his department mind you), we'd be in a good place.

I think ultimately he's been a good, stable footy boss, but come the end of the year, it's probably time for both parties that he moves on.

Given he did the internal review at the end of the last year, you'd have to say he's tied at the hip with Goodwin's future.

They may well both go at once. 

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1 hour ago, A F said:

I think he's a respected, smart operator when it comes to trade time. Posters that say we get bent over, I think are being harsh. He gets deals done and had we got the coaching and fitness side of things right (which is definitely his department mind you), we'd be in a good place.

I think ultimately he's been a good, stable footy boss, but come the end of the year, it's probably time for both parties that he moves on.

Given he did the internal review at the end of the last year, you'd have to say he's tied at the hip with Goodwin's future.

They may well both go at once. 

i have no issues with fitness and trading

coaching and recruiting doesn't appear to be working

the bolded bit is why he can't stay on next season, when goodwin will really be being judged

UNLESS the whole season goes to pot and then, as you say, they both should probably go

Edited August 4, 2020 by whatwhatsaywhat

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I have been highly critical of Mahoney for a long time but do recognise his strengths:  Administration, negotiation and media performance.   I believe he is a highly regarded administrator and rightly so.

My observations of the last 10 years, especially the last 5 are that managing football functions and football people are not among his strengths.  If I ever needed more convincing the coaching outcomes (or lack of) of last year's FD review sealed my doubts.

He strengths may one day make him a very good CEO and or very successful in AFL HQ but imv not in the football side of club land.

Edited August 4, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

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On 8/1/2020 at 10:24 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

I agree with the narrative on here.

I have voiced in the past that our media department has been the worst in the AFL by a mile.

Ever since Benny Gibson has jumped on board its given it a whole new dynamic.

So well done to you Benny and the rest of the media team.

Haven't had the chance to watch the Mahoney interview.  Will now.

Correct. Ben Gibson asks the good questions. The ones we ask. 

Mahoney is a politician.  He is very eloquent and presents well. 

It’s not one offs. 2019 was a disaster.  Our skills are horrible and we need to get it right.  

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I have been highly critical of Mahoney for a long time but do recognise his strengths:  Administration, negotiation and media performance.   I believe he is a highly regarded administrator and rightly so.

My observations of the last 10 years, especially the last 5 are that managing football functions and football people are not among his strengths.  If I ever needed more convincing the coaching outcomes (or lack of) of last year's FD review sealed my doubts.

He strengths may one day make him a very good CEO and or very successful in AFL HQ but imv not in the football side of club land.

I don't think we can tell what his management of football people is like, can we? And what do you mean by football functions?

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25 minutes ago, A F said:

I don't think we can tell what his management of football people is like, can we? And what do you mean by football functions?

Football functions: 

• List management (we have an unbalanced list with many poorly skilled players); 
• fitness and medical (fixed in 2019 review)
• coaching panel (I've commented far to many times on its deficiencies),
• game plan/strategy development/endorsement (what can I say),
• analytics (repaired in 2019 review)
• player development (many of our players have stagnated or just not developed)
• player contract management (we have put a lot of players on 4/5 year contracts and it could come back to bite us (TMac, Tomlinson, Harmes, Brayshaw). 

He is responsible for hiring the people to head up those functions and ensure their programs are consistent with each other and the overall football strategy, then monitor their achievements. 

Football people: 

I didn't mean relationships with specific people.

When there are regular reviews of functions they result in continuous improvement of those functions.  That the 2019 review was forced upon him says something broke down in that process. 

That suggests to me he hasn't selected the right people for some functions and/or he had/has not adequately managed their performance. 

Managing people and their performance is a simple process:  role and KPI definition, delegation, monitoring, correction.  Can't see that overall it has been done well.  Some areas have improved since the review some have not.

Edited August 5, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

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Good interviewer.....

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I like the interviewer. he asks tough questions

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On 7/31/2020 at 10:54 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

I am just stunned at how bad the basic skills are whenever we are pressured. 
 

if ever we are to succeed we have to relish hard pressure and beat it

It's amazing to think that they crack under pressure in a H&A game, it doesn't augur well if we were to fluke our way into the finals, because the pressure goes up a notch, think back to that West Toast final, our skills and footy IQ went down the toilet that day too.

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As a Club, we are not validating recent decisions and selections adequately. We allow these to become longer-term issues and tend to stoke the fires of further complacency rather than throw a bucket of water over the mounting deficiencies. Evaluate immediate performances continuously and enact upon the evidence so gained. Only absolute positivity is acceptable - all else will only fester. 

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22 minutes ago, cantstandyasam said:

It's amazing to think that they crack under pressure in a H&A game, it doesn't augur well if we were to fluke our way into the finals, because the pressure goes up a notch, think back to that West Toast final, our skills and footy IQ went down the toilet that day too.

The Football Department has not recovered from that Preliminary Final in 2018

Good Clubs learn and sort it out

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[Demon3 2,541]

That is interesting and makes sense as all the whispers was that he was looking to get out and MFC happy to let him go but to get through the trade an draft period first. 

Can Richardson do the job on his own? Still watch this space on Luke Ball being involved at the club, im still hearing it.

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I thought he was going to play a pivotal role in the working group tasked with getting the home base project off the ground. Or was that just BS.

And I didn't know Richardson "replaced" him. I would have preferred Richardson get the a**e. I like the pick trading Mahoney has been doing and wouldn't be surprised if he pulls another rabbit out of the hat tomorrow.