Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Tom McDonald


Elegt

Recommended Posts

If you look at Viney he’s only really coming good this year even though technically his foot had healed last year. Hopefully another off season will help T-Mac as his best is very Good. Clearly needs strip a few kegs to start running his opponent into the ground again. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Who might be interested? Collingwood? 

The article did suggest Collingwood as a possible suitor. Although it was stated that his contract would have to be spread out over 3-4 years due to their tight salary cap. Don't know how this works, but given that he will be 29 next year I cannot see that happening

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Interesting one isn't it, used to dominate time trials etc now seems a different player.

If he's hampered by injury - bit of a concern that Burgess and team haven't been able to come up with an apparent solution.

If he's bulked up too much and that's led to reduced mobility etc, surely they would he detected this at the start of the year. Reminds me of when Lukaku bulked up too much for the WC in 2018, got back to his club side and struggled with form as he had lost that bit of pace etc. 

If he's a confidence/form player then the lack of adequate 'reserves' comp won't help him get into it.

Uncertain of a trade, still could play a role in some description IF body can be sorted. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Feeling that way today jr. it’s something that happens to me every year in September when another season has amount to nil with the MFC. First anger then Deep introspection. Followed by there is always next year! However I am seriously running out of next years. 

I'm hearing you, od...2021 will be our year!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, binman said:

His ability is not the problem.

His problem is obviously related to his physical condition 

Not what I meant.

I was responding to someone who said his problem was "half-hearted efforts".

It's not a question of talent. It's a question of his ability to produce AFL-level football right now. Whether that's a prolonged form slump or injury/fitness, and it could well be the latter, the reality is he's not currently able to produce good enough football. But that's not for want of trying.

 

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jetta         Tmac           Lever

Hibberd    Omac          Lockhart

Rivers        Brayshaw   Salem

Trac           May             Viney

Fritta         Weids          Bennel

Gawn        Trac              Langdon

Hunt   Hannan Tomilson Spargo

AVB for Brayshaw if injured, ANB for Hunt or Tomilson if we can forsake some run.

  • Shocked 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


16 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Seems ludicrous to me that you’d ask a player to put on 10kg who has been hampered by foot injuries. 

I've seen this 10kg thing a lot.

Is there any evidence at all to support it?

Is there anyone on Demonland who claims to have a source who has said this?

Or is it just a rumour with no real base to it?

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, 58er said:

Short memory !!

Think of Tommy's  2018 season no lack of pace opened up on the wing on occasions.

Burgess needs to have a look and see why he can do I feel unless his body is totally wrecked.

Unfortunately we are in 2020 mate. Don't see how a player can be rated from performances 2 years ago. If that were the case, Bernie Vince would still be on an AFL list

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

He did well on Papley, od

Yes, he did well on Papley and that cannot really be sneezed at - matched him step for step, spoiled, tackled - what more could one ask of a forward mis-placed on the backline by the coach - out of position, out of familiarity, out of kilter. Across the field, it is time for change and common sense - factors not necessarily applied by He Who Knows Best.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I called it earlier on in the year that he's either carring an injury or finished, these revelations that he's put on 10kgs are insane.

Especially considering he's had a fractured/complete break in his metatarsal last year.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Probably carrying lingering foot issues.

Still probably the best set shot in the side

Doesn't help that we have no idea how to deliver to his advantage or that we let him get double/triple teamed. 9 out of 10 inside 50 entries are blindly long bombed, been like that for 3 years. Not to mention 4 of his team mates flying comically for every unrealistic mark

Like Viney, I wouldn't blame him for going to a top 4 side that knows how to use his skill set rather than force him to battle against 3 guys and push [censored] up a hill every week

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Not what I meant.

I was responding to someone who said his problem was "half-hearted efforts".

It's not a question of talent. It's a question of his ability to produce AFL-level football right now. Whether that's a prolonged form slump or injury/fitness, and it could well be the latter, the reality is he's not currently able to produce good enough football. But that's not for want of trying.

 

My thoughts exactly UA.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Ungarieboy said:

Jetta         Tmac           Lever

Hibberd    Omac          Lockhart

Rivers        Brayshaw   Salem

Trac           May             Viney

Fritta         Weids          Bennel

Gawn        Trac              Langdon

Hunt   Hannan Tomilson Spargo

AVB for Brayshaw if injured, ANB for Hunt or Tomilson if we can forsake some run.

The team would be better if we had a Trac on every line, not just the two.

Is the other one a previously unknown identical twin?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i would like to see the actual quote where he says that the club asked him to put on 10kg for this season - i had never heard that before recent revelations on this forum

agree with everyone that it makes zero sense in the context of what sort of player he has been at his best, how modern football is played, and his injury history

Link to comment
Share on other sites

58 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I've seen this 10kg thing a lot.

Is there any evidence at all to support it?

Is there anyone on Demonland who claims to have a source who has said this?

Or is it just a rumour with no real base to it?

Just goes to show how quickly an unsubstantiated rumour can gather legs and become gospel.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


1 hour ago, jumbo returns said:

I'm hearing you, od...2021 will be our year!

Sadly jr I have been hearing that  for way too many years. I am hoping for finals next after substantial changes in FD changes in October.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I've seen this 10kg thing a lot.

Is there any evidence at all to support it?

Is there anyone on Demonland who claims to have a source who has said this?

Or is it just a rumour with no real base to it?

It was stated as fact by a poster around the time of the blues game.

The poster's name escapes me and i don't recall them posting for some time (though was prolific poster at that point).

We had a number of back and forth posts about it as in the immortal of Sy Richardson's character, Lite, from Repo Man 'I called [censored] on that'.

As if the club in this day and age would ask an already big, 27 year old power forward to put on 10kgs to play deep full forward (which as i pointed out to said poster they didn't even play him in thta position agnst the blues, or subsequently as it has turned out). 

 

  • Thanks 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, binman said:

It was stated as fact by a poster around the time of the blues game.

The poster's name escapes me and i don't recall them posting for some time (though was prolific poster at that point).

We had a number of back and forth posts about it as in the immortal of Sy Richardson's character, Lite, from Repo Man 'I called [censored] on that'.

As if the club in this day and age would ask an already big, 27 year old power forward to put on 10kgs to play deep full forward (which as i pointed out to said poster they didn't even play him in thta position agnst the blues, or subsequently as it has turned out). 

 

The fact was the post just contained crap.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i would like to see the actual quote where he says that the club asked him to put on 10kg for this season - i had never heard that before recent revelations on this forum

agree with everyone that it makes zero sense in the context of what sort of player he has been at his best, how modern football is played, and his injury history

This is the only reference I've seen on this WWSW

On 9/8/2020 at 12:21 PM, Coq au vin said:

Apparently he was told to gain 10kg to be able to play full forward and bust packs apart. Big mistake. Now he can’t run!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't believe this 10kg thing. He's the same size he was in 2018. 

Why would we slim down Steve May to as thin as he's ever been and bulk Tom up?

If anything Tom might be better off adding a bit of muscle to help him turn and play with power, but there's no way it was or ever will be 10kg

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all.    On that rainy Friday night at the Adelaide Oval, Ken Hinkley’s young midfield secured much more than four points on offer. The victory over one of the big dogs of the competition after a succession of wins over some of its lesser lights gave his team respect and validation fo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Monday 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training. DEMON DYNASTY'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kade Chandler's left knee heavily strapped. BBB, Spargs & Jake Lever also in rehab group. Jake Bowey solo running separate kicking/sprint/agility drills. Super fine morning / early arvo at Gosch's for the boys to blow out some cobwebs. Choco initially had the light duties / rehab group

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter. By the time they worked out it was game on, their opponents from Box Hill had accumulated five goals and, if the game wasn’t over, it might as well have been. For a se

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head. The Demons have now won nine of their last ten encounters with the other result, a draw.     And like a fork, it was the multi-pronged options that Melbourne had all across the ground.  It certainly helped that Hawthorn

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 8

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in the Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 262

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 25th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Hawks in the Round 02. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 46

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 357

    GAMEDAY: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 437
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 03

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 03 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 03

  • Match Preview      

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 03

       vs   

    Saturday 30th March 2024
    @ 07:30pm (AO)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 2-4 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 7 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
    9 Jack Billings 10
    9 Alex Neal-Bullen 10

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...