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Correct, it is disgusting and it's unacceptable on several levels:

1.  The individual's that hide behind the mask of anonymity and commit these unacceptable racist trolling activities and

2.  The social media firms that hide behind the veil of free speech, freedom of the internet from censorship and or an inability to police this activity.

Free speech is very different from racist trolling and hate speech.

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It's quite pathetic really but there will always be small minded individuals out there.

Can we change the underlying behaviours and beliefs of the masses?

I don't know, there has been a change on the surface but a lot of these issues run deep.

The Goodes situation and Eddie outbursts (and failure to take ownership of them) tell me we have a long, long way to go.

I guess we keep chipping away.

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I've reported people name calling people of Asian decent "ching chongs" to Facebook before and all the weak [censored] did was hide the post from me - pathetic.

Then there is the rubbish claim that these social media behemoths that make billions off advertising revenue, undermine legitimate media (whom are held far more accountable to standards of conduct and legal responsibility for their publications) cannot afford to or can not practically police racism on their platform.

Racism exists and thrives on social media, precisely because it is tolerated and people can hide behind anonymity.   This enables and encourages racism within society in general.

 

FU Facebook, Twitter etc.

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3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

ah thanks i see it now. must say i don't really look at emojis in any detail. i also find twitter very disjointed  when trying to follow a thread, and often overly cryptic

I don’t read it at all dc. If Trump uses  it That says it all for me.

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7 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Racism exists and thrives on social media, precisely because it is tolerated and people can hide behind anonymity.   This enables and encourages racism within society in general.

 

I'm always torn on this one...

If we stop the posting are we really just hiding it? is it better to know what's out there for better or worse? do we ignore it?

Does it encourage racism? or does it just reflect what people are already thinking?

I don't know, in the end I think you're right though. The powers that be need to stop it on their platforms.

...but we need to be aware of the undercurrent.

I'm really concerned when things get swept under the carpet.

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It's terrible, but extremely difficult to stamp out.

'jaydeen238' is a troll account, no posts, not following anyone, and just followed by two other troll accounts.

He'll spend all day online being 'edgy; and offensive and it'd be his dream come true if one of his comments is picked up by mainstream media.  It puts everyone in an almost impossible position - calling him out, getting into and argument, or raising his profile is exactly what he wants you to do... so what can you do?

 

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I sincerely wish that this thing would never happen, but are you better to focus on the 1% of small minded, miserable people who are seeking some attention and purpose in their pathetic lives, or on the 99% of people who try their best to do the right thing and get along with everyone?

I don't think that you'll ever change some people, so it is much better and healthier to find the positives where possible (unless laws are clearly being broken).

(That said, I avoid twitter and instagram like the plague, because these are where such people thrive.)

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3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

It's terrible, but extremely difficult to stamp out.

'jaydeen238' is a troll account, no posts, not following anyone, and just followed by two other troll accounts.

He'll spend all day online being 'edgy; and offensive and it'd be his dream come true if one of his comments is picked up by mainstream media.  It puts everyone in an almost impossible position - calling him out, getting into and argument, or raising his profile is exactly what he wants you to do... so what can you do?

The solution to the issue is to have a proper verification process for social media accounts.

If these people had to use their real name we would hardly ever see these type of comments.

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32 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Look at the emoji posted by someone under the name of Jaydeen238 

That account no longer exists, thankfully.

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Just now, Lord Nev said:

The solution to the issue is to have a proper verification process for social media accounts.

If these people had to use their real name we would hardly ever see these type of comments.

Basically, yes.

It's completely absurd the way people can behave online with zero consequences.

He's going viral now on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram and it'll be the highlight of this little pr!cks year.

 

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I agree with the OP sentiment - we need to keep the trolls + social media platforms accountable. Ongoing education + holding the line will hopefully diminish trolls over time. I'd like to see SM platforms take a lead on accountability - or adversely businesses refusing to advertise on their platforms as money speaks louder than words.

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The hard thing is to some degree it's less about the people actually believing the hurtful things people are saying, than it is about them trying to be trolls and get attention, so the more attention you give those people the more you feed them and the more extreme you're likely to get. 

genuine racists need to be called out but it's hard to tell the difference 

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It's a hard thing to police online unfortunately. The posts could be deleted or hidden, but that takes them being pointed out and absorbed in the first place. Until society improves it's attitudes, these sorts of racist and prejudice posts and comments will continue. Such a shame and I feel awful for people like Neville Jetta and Eddie Betts recently who have been targeted by scum. It would tarnish what should have been a celebration for them etc.

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