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if there was a game next week then I would of gone with;

out- Spargo, Brown, OMac, ANB, 

in- Jones, Weideman, Salem, Jackson

 

B- Jetta May Hibberd

HB- Harmes Lever Salem

C- Langdon Brayshaw Tomlinson

HF- Petracca TMac Melksham

F- Fritsch Weideman Pickett

R- Gawn Oliver Viney

I- Jones, Jackson, Lockhart, Bedford

EM- Sparrow, Rivers, Hore, ANB

i agree with DeeSpencer, Hibberd needs to stay deep and even play taller if he has too, he has the strength to body spoil a bigger opponent. we cant have him pushing up the ground and kicking inside F50, he sucks at it. if he cant do the job for us anymore then he's of limited value and Hore, Rivers or Smith should probably replace him.

Lever and May have to be the 2 main tall defenders. we pay them both good money, key defender money, so make them bloody earn it. I've seen the 3 tall defence before and I've never been a fan of it. it makes us too slow and we get hurt by the smaller players instead. we have Tomlinson as an option up our sleeve who can go back and help out if needed. we should be utilizing that sort of flexibility instead.

Brown is depth only, and he's not a key forward either. bring back Weideman and play him out of the goal square and let him run and jump at the ball. make it simple for him and just tell him to fly for everything that he can. Let Tmac roam up the ground more from CHF, he cant seem to jump since he did his foot anyway.

Jackson needs to play as a utility. he can back up the ruck if needed and can give us a different look on ball and forward at times, or even throw him out on the wing. the team lacks options atm.

Salem and Jones should also help with the ball use problem a tad as well.

put Oliver and Brayshaw under notice to lift their game and start running hard. i'm not against us pushing either of them out of the centre square, or even dropping them if it teaches them a lesson.

hopefully if this season ever gets going again, we can then have guys like Petty, Rivers, Sparrow, Baker and Hannan pushing others for spots.

and Goodwin needs a forward line specialist coach. i'm afraid the whirlpool aint getting the job done.

 

 

 

 

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Everything needs to be about the kick inside 50. The only players who have the footskills to kick it in there are:

N Jones, Salem, Fritsch, Melk and CP5

They are now the only players allowed to kick the ball inside 50. All other players work the 50m perimeter until they get it in the hands of someone who can hit a target. The chosen kicks then should kick it to spot up leads from our forwards or mids or, if they have to, bomb it to Luke Jackson who brings it down to Kozzie, Bedford or Lockhart and resting mids like Oliver and Bray.

Tomlinson has to go. Langdon is a great ball winner but has to find players laterally and not try to kick to targets inside 50.

 

 

 

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Also it's impossible to describe how much we needed Jack Martin. And we had the pick. But instead of selling him on our culture we let him go to Carlton. He kicked 4.1 and was creative going into F50 against the premiers. 

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I'm going to be a bit contrary and say that I thought there were players who on their performances yesterday were far worse than ANB and OMac. However, whether OMac would stay in the side depends entirely on who we would be playing. If we need a third tall defender, he would stay in. If we don't, he'd go out for someone more suited to the team we're against. That might be Hore if we need some who's medium tall, or it might be a smaller defender.

ANB would stay in the side because he did far more than Spargo and Bedford. It's always hard on TV to see what is happening off the ball, but it was clear to me yesterday that ANB was doing a lot more work than Spargo. Nevertheless, Bedford did enough to warrant another game.

I assumed that Brown played because Weideman wasn't fit. But if, in this hypothetical one week break to Round 2, Weideman is still not right, I would play Jackson instead of Brown for two reasons. We need a better back-up ruckman than Tom McDonald (although it wouldn't have made any difference against Natinui yesterday) and because he's the future and needs to gain experience.

  

 

 

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Ultimately there were seven key players who were missing from the side yesterday that, if fit, all need to come on when we play next.

Vanders (grunt and midfield depth), Joel Smith (our third tall defender), Jones (experience and smarts up forward or across midfield), Jackson (pace and height up forward and a decent cutout for Gawny, albeit a green one), Salem (skill and precision from down back), Hannan (a genuine tall small forward who has pace and can mark and can kick long goals) and one of Petty or Weid (the missing third tall marking forward yesterday).  

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For those who think Weid will be any sort of answer...............Good luck with that.

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18 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Thoughts?

Bennell, Vanders and Smith should all be right by then

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 B- Jetta  May Hore

HB- Hunt Lever Salem

C- Langdon Brayshaw Tomlinson

HF- Petracca TMac Fritta

F- Melksham Weideman Pickett

R- Gawn Oliver Viney

I- Hibberd, Lockhart, Bedford, ANB

E- Sparrow, OMac, Jones, Spargo

Need to inject some pace in the backline......the delisting of Frosty was just stupid.

 

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17 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Jetta left his man too many times to rush up as well, he has to get discipline in to his game because good teams are always going to open you up on big grounds and you have to let things play out as one on one and have the mids cover off.

Jetta is getting out-of-position, as it were, so much and it is because he plays as a team man - providing assistance (as he sees it during a game) to his teammates under pressure. For three years, at least, he has worn his own opponent and then snuck over to assist a struggling OMac - covering his ( OMac's) man too, so frequently, game after game, struggling with high clearance punches at the ball against a KP tall forward as OMac is still bringing up the rear some 15 metres away (ie: OMac cannot keep pace with any opponent). Good onyer, Nev, for trying. You can see the weaknesses, as well as we can. That is perhaps the reason why I have never seen you pass the ball to OMac by foot. 

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17 hours ago, Sick2deeath said:

tmac back Oscar out

Now we're talking good sense. Backed with Hore and Rivers. 

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19 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

B: LOCKHART, MAY, LEVER

HB: SALEM, T.MCDONALD, RIVERS

C : LANGDON, PETRACCA, TOMLINSON

HF: PICKETT, JACKSON, JONES

F: BEDFORD, FRITSCH, MELKSHAM

FOLL: GAWN, OLIVER, VINEY

IC: WEIDEMAN, HARMES, SPARROW, HORE

COACH: YZE

Out Hore in Petty to CHF

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1 hour ago, loges said:

For those who think Weid will be any sort of answer...............Good luck with that.

Beg to differ, play out of position in Marsh. Runs hard and prepared to present. (Iron hands but that will come I think). Much better option than Brown. 

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I certainly hope it comes Robbie, we certainly need it, but I've seen him not prepared to present. It's his fifth season now when is it going to happen?

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6 hours ago, Pitchy said:

Also it's impossible to describe how much we needed Jack Martin. And we had the pick. But instead of selling him on our culture we let him go to Carlton. He kicked 4.1 and was creative going into F50 against the premiers. 

Another example of us not being a ruthless club.

We had 4 weeks to convince J Martin to come to the club. And he would've come too if he wanted to continue his career.

I don't buy into the fact that he ONLY wanted to play for Carlton. The year before he ONLY wanted to play for Essendon. I think he wanted out of GC more than wanting to play for Carlton.

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We missed Jones yesterday.

One of the rare players on this list that can kick a football and make half decent decisions.

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3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Another example of us not being a ruthless club.

We had 4 weeks to convince J Martin to come to the club. And he would've come too if he wanted to continue his career.

I don't buy into the fact that he ONLY wanted to play for Carlton. The year before he ONLY wanted to play for Essendon. I think he wanted out of GC more than wanting to play for Carlton.

He wanted ridiculous money that only Carlton was prepared to pay him

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1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

He wanted ridiculous money that only Carlton was prepared to pay him

Don't let facts get in the way of a Deelanders opportunity to lay the boots into the club

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10 hours ago, Pitchy said:

Also it's impossible to describe how much we needed Jack Martin. And we had the pick. But instead of selling him on our culture we let him go to Carlton. He kicked 4.1 and was creative going into F50 against the premiers. 

One of the smartest posts on this site for a long time. Another case of just rolling over and accepting mediocrity. 

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21 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We missed Jones yesterday.

One of the rare players on this list that can kick a football and make half decent decisions.

 

Agreed .... and runs to space, uses space once found (nearly always within a 5-metre radius of the pack), and runs on in support of an attacking play by the team to receive/offload support in tight, if needed.

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Unfortunately i don't believe Round 2 will be till next year, if we are lucky.

Listening to the PM last night, it was inferred that the current restrictions (and worse) will be around for a long long time. 

The Spanish Flu pandemic lasted 2 years from January 1918 to December 1920.

Edited by Neil Crompton
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If Spargo plays another game then we really are stuffed..

If we think O MACS one game "Blinder" is promise of things to come?? Think again

If we think Max can ruck all day with a Brown as back up ... Think again

If Hibberd is not finished .. Then Think again

If Nev .. in spite of heroics isn't near the end?? Think again

If selling one of the few with Pace "Sam Frost" was a masterstroke... Think again

If we think Bailey is a Key Forward.. Think again!

If we think Tommy Mac can play..... Think again!

IF IF we think Simon Goodwin is the messiah .. who will lead us out of the Desert???? 

TAKE A TATTSLOTTO TICKET go the bed and wake up to find???

Sheeit I got 20 Cents under my pillow and I never lost any teeth!

YEAH.... SHORT CHANGED YET AGAIN!

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On 3/23/2020 at 11:20 AM, Pitchy said:

Also it's impossible to describe how much we needed Jack Martin. And we had the pick. But instead of selling him on our culture we let him go to Carlton. He kicked 4.1 and was creative going into F50 against the premiers. 

TYPICAL MFC SOFT SO BLOODY SOFT!!

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