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I think Gill said:

  • Training is suspended, and
  • They will revisit the situation resuming games at the end of April (if restart after May 31).
  • No premiership will be awarded as all the options they considered were 'contrived'...did I hear that correctly?

If AFL does resume it will be a long season of practice games.  Under the circumstances I'll settle for that.  It will be good for the soul to have some 'normality' back. 

It is going to be a very long winter.  Hope Dan Murphys stays open!!

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You are basically remembered for your last effort.  The 2018 PF hovered like a stench over the 18/19 preseason; the 2019 season has been the veil of hopelessness since.  A good win against West Coast will probably erase that for the autumn and beyond.  MFC will treat this like a GF (but hopefully not a PF).  Put your stimulus cheque on the $3.50.

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42 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Time to watch Jimmy Swaggart or join the pentecostals. 

And after a full conversion, you will be protected by the blood of Jesus. 

But sorry, no footy. 

And you'll be exempt from mass meetings because Scomeo will legislate it. Or, you just mozzie on down to Crown Casino, still open. Daniel Andrew was gonna 'ask' them to close it, FMDead....

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44 minutes ago, HardBallGet said:

take it easy with the abuse champ!

You speak of the end of the season like a distant event...I'm not sure you're right, but if the men get a season in then I can't see why 3 games (with minimal costs) will make any difference, financially. Many would challenge your assertion that AFLW costs money. It has led to a large up swell of grassroots players, strengthening footy all over Aus.

You have an interesting perspective re finances. the biggest drain on the AFL's coffers in 2020 will be paying players and staffers in the AFL whose clubs are not playing. If the AFL goes under financially it will be because of the highly professionalised environment of the men's game.

I think it's a little crude to criticise me for a lack of perspective. like me, you are on a football forum discussing the implications of a global pandemic on football. I'd say we are both a tad light on perspective.

Finally sexism does not cease to exist or become less problematic just because the AFL is in financial trouble.

The ignore function is a great thing.. 😉

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Season should never have started in the first place. Was both irresponsible and hypocritical.

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1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

This letter to the editor in a WA newspaper talks to why the decision was necessary:-

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Footballers prioritised over Urologists. if that's not taking the pi$$ I don't know what is.

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Circumventing over-zealous censorship algorithm

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18 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:
  • Training is suspended, and
  • They will revisit the situation resuming games at the end of April (if restart after May 31).
  • No premiership will be awarded as all the options they considered were 'contrived'...did I hear that correctly?

I'm not going to take it.

I'm going to sit in the Mcg, on the wing,  until they startup again.

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34 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

If we can take anything out of 2020, it's that WERRIDEE has won the worst post for the year award in March. 

I don't think it can be topped. 

He is a germ of a human being, nothing but a stain. Demonland needs to permanently isolate him from this website

This is bigger then football. 

Look after your love ones everyone, and stay safe. 

We'll be back again.

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1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

This letter to the editor in a WA newspaper talks to why the decision was necessary:-

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That is an absolute [censored] joke. And why the AFL season should have never gone ahead in the first place. It is not above everything else, and given current circumstances, needs to fall a great deal behind the pecking order for many more important matters.

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1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

This is crap. The only thing I look forward to has been taken away . I'm calling for drastic change. Let the virus spread if the elderly and sick die so be it don't take away our football.

Wow! 

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Know some people will knock what i'm about to say, but one of the first things the AFL WOULD DO if it wanted to save money would be to abolish GWS and GC. It'll be a massive, but courageous, decision. GWS and GC are 30 year projects. The AFL will take well over a decade to get over this, probably 20 years. Sensible decisions need to be made now. The AFL subsidises those clubs completely. Massive money involved. They can hold a mini-draft and distribute the players evenly across the other clubs.

This is what happens when wages and persons employed by clubs increases out of belief with little in reserve for a rainy day. Well that rainy day that nobody ever predicted has arrived. Strong leadership is required and controversial decisions.

 

 

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1 minute ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

I'm not going to take it.

I'm going to sit in the Mcg, on the wing,  until they startup again.

I'm more than happy for the MFC to take the money from my membership as a donation, but will the AFL be re-reimbursing members money for the exorbitant prices placed on their memberships? 

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1 hour ago, HardBallGet said:

The AFL is a sexist disgrace. Gil has said he is committed to playing the remaining 16 rounds plus finals of AFL at some stage this year, yet AFLW is cancelled with 3 games remaining. I know this is probably irrelevant given it is unlikely either formats will recommence in 2020, but on principle it is poor. It is time to stop treating AFLW as a level of equality the AFL has gifted to women. 

 

We'll be lucky if there still is an AFLW next season (not to mention a few AFL clubs too)

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Does this mean we are back to the longest pre-season ever or is it Mad Monday tomorrow? Im totally confused !

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44 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

No premiership will be awarded as all the options they considered were 'contrived'...did I hear that correctly?

That was in relation to the AFLW comp

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24 minutes ago, Northern Summer said:

Know some people will knock what i'm about to say, but one of the first things the AFL WOULD DO if it wanted to save money would be to abolish GWS and GC. It'll be a massive, but courageous, decision. GWS and GC are 30 year projects. The AFL will take well over a decade to get over this, probably 20 years. Sensible decisions need to be made now. The AFL subsidises those clubs completely. Massive money involved. They can hold a mini-draft and distribute the players evenly across the other clubs.

This is what happens when wages and persons employed by clubs increases out of belief with little in reserve for a rainy day. Well that rainy day that nobody ever predicted has arrived. Strong leadership is required and controversial decisions.

 

 

Would be good if it did happen, but it won't.

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3 hours ago, HardBallGet said:

take it easy with the abuse champ!

You speak of the end of the season like a distant event...I'm not sure you're right, but if the men get a season in then I can't see why 3 games (with minimal costs) will make any difference, financially. Many would challenge your assertion that AFLW costs money. It has led to a large up swell of grassroots players, strengthening footy all over Aus.

You have an interesting perspective re finances. the biggest drain on the AFL's coffers in 2020 will be paying players and staffers in the AFL whose clubs are not playing. If the AFL goes under financially it will be because of the highly professionalised environment of the men's game.

I think it's a little crude to criticise me for a lack of perspective. like me, you are on a football forum discussing the implications of a global pandemic on football. I'd say we are both a tad light on perspective.

Finally sexism does not cease to exist or become less problematic just because the AFL is in financial trouble.

No abuse there whatsoever sport.

The AFL relies on a certain number of games being played for the T.V money that comes with it. 

I get your feelings are hurt over the Women not getting their final, but how would the public respond to coming back for 3 finals and nothing else? The mens comp has only had a single round, so it will actually feel like finals once the remainder of the season is played, whereas the Womens comp will be like the start of a new season.

The entire code is in trouble here, and the obvious long term benefit of having a Womens comp does not help the AFL NOW. It in fact is an expense that they cannot afford.

While I am a fan of AFLW and our girls........ Priorities.

 

 

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Posted (edited)

So in the (however unlikely) event that the season was called as finished as of tonight, does that mean it will definitely be a 9 way tie for the Brownlow Medal? 

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2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Would be good if it did happen, but it won't.

I'm not sure they will have a choice.

Might be time to go back to a 12 team competition.

We will be lucky to survive in our current form.

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3 hours ago, TGR said:

You are basically remembered for your last effort.  The 2018 PF hovered like a stench over the 18/19 preseason; the 2019 season has been the veil of hopelessness since.  A good win against West Coast will probably erase that for the autumn and beyond.  MFC will treat this like a GF (but hopefully not a PF).  Put your stimulus cheque on the $3.50.

This is only 3  hours old and it hasn't aged well 😂

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3 hours ago, Northern Summer said:

Know some people will knock what i'm about to say, but one of the first things the AFL WOULD DO if it wanted to save money would be to abolish GWS and GC. It'll be a massive, but courageous, decision. GWS and GC are 30 year projects. The AFL will take well over a decade to get over this, probably 20 years. Sensible decisions need to be made now. The AFL subsidises those clubs completely. Massive money involved. They can hold a mini-draft and distribute the players evenly across the other clubs.

This is what happens when wages and persons employed by clubs increases out of belief with little in reserve for a rainy day. Well that rainy day that nobody ever predicted has arrived. Strong leadership is required and controversial decisions.

 

 

Sadly for us, St Kilda and North we'll be the ones on the chopping block. 

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There was a hint in Gill's comments that all 18 clubs may not survive:  "Asked whether some clubs would battle to remain solvent, McLachlan said: “It’s a challenge but we will get there … we are working collectively to secure liquidity so we can protect the AFL and all our 18 clubs.” Season Postponed

I don't wish to be too pessimistic but we may not survive.  We are in a poor financial state and it will get worse with virtually no revenue after we give up pokies in June.  Not many wealthy benefactors to bail us out.  We are the only team without a base and without a heartland, as much as we fans like to think it is the MCG and surrounding areas, it just isn't. 

The other weaker clubs (Saints, Roos and Bulldogs) can mobilise their fans in their heartland to their suburban bases (when crowds can gather again) for fundraising, socialising etc etc.  Get fan momentum back.  Where does mfc go?  We are more vulnerable than any other Vic team.  And I don't think our proud history will protect us if crunch decisions need to be made.  Nor will our 'parent company' the MCC. 

As I noted a few days ago it is quite probable there will be mergers and relocations.  I just hope and pray we aren't one of them.  The AFL becomes 16 teams.  The AFL broadcast agreement expires at the end of 2022 but I would guess that it will soon be re-written to take account of no 2020 season.  Beyond that there will be variety of scenarios - fewer teams and games could well be in those scenarios.

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14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He is a germ of a human being, nothing but a stain. Demonland needs to permanently isolate him from this website

This is bigger then football. 

Look after your love ones everyone, and stay safe. 

We'll be back again.

Why is Werridees post allowed to be put on this forum?

Where is the censorship or do you have to name names to be removed or refused of a port like that?

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14 hours ago, dieter said:

And you'll be exempt from mass meetings because Scomeo will legislate it. Or, you just mozzie on down to Crown Casino, still open. Daniel Andrew was gonna 'ask' them to close it, FMDead....

Crown gaming has been dismantled according to reports!!

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11 hours ago, rjay said:

I'm not sure they will have a choice.

Might be time to go back to a 12 team competition.

We will be lucky to survive in our current form.

I don't disagree.

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