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4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Any reasons given for the change in time? I'm just curious.

I didn't see any. 

Perhaps better for a homebound TV audience. 

People who go to games with kids prefer the earlier timeslot. Perhaps broadcasters prefer it later. 

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7 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Probably because the two players are confirmed as negative to Covid19.

I'm not unhappy the AFL has gone ahead, gives us some hope and something new to read.

I'm also over the sensationalist reporting of this current epidemic.

It's what has brought on the panic buying and increased fear.  It is something we've never faced before I agree

I don't see how banning kids from Community football has made them safer than attending school with 500-1000 kids in close proximity.

and I don't see how the players health is under any bigger threat by playing football than the general publics would be by attending packed shopping centres or traveling on public transport on mass.

The players playing or not, isn't going to lead us to the scenario which is occurring in Italy or Iran currently 

 

 

You've got my vote.

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11 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Tasmania just announced it's requiring everyone from the mainland to self isolate if they come to the State.

Lucky there's no Tasmanian team

But we do play games in Tassie ... until now (North & Hawks relocated home games)

And will Tasmania be the only State to ask visitors to self isolate? (or at least those who fly in)

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15 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Totally different circumstances. You cannot compare this to anything else. 
Meanwhile an NRL player has tested positive AFTER playing a game...

That’s how this virus ? spreads

It is irresponsible madness to start the season now. 
 

People have to rediscover books for awhile....

Of course they are!

My point was the history of AFL in difficult situations, and how it can/does offer comfort to some those affected. I don't need it but many do.

When the Chief Medical Officer signs off then I am satisfied with that. 

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10 hours ago, Gunna’s said:

I would like our boys to play Freo on Tuesday/Wednesday.

Reduce travel required for all (and fly back with 8 points!) 

I agree, in a 17 game season everyone will end up with 8 or 9 away games, why not group them together so we only have to travel west once, then next away games we might go to Adel/Syd/Qld but only do the return trip once. I love that the games are being played but they need to get the fixture right to minimise travel exposure. 

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are state sponsored games in tassie, alice springs, darwin etc at risk. the states (sponsors) involved only pay on the understanding of increased visitors and tourism dollars. Without those benefits they may not cough up and those games would revert to traditional home games,

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You cannot play football in empty stadiums because some time the ball is kicked into the crowd which is non existant therefore they must arrange for ball retievers in the empty stadium so the flow of the game continues, otherwise if a team needs a break in play they could deliberatly kick the ball into the vacant stadium

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11 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

are state sponsored games in tassie, alice springs, darwin etc at risk. the states (sponsors) involved only pay on the understanding of increased visitors and tourism dollars. Without those benefits they may not cough up and those games would revert to traditional home games,

You can't travel to Tassie now with self isolating for 14 days, so that would rule out any games there. I think they should just be playing games at the major grounds now, with just 1 in QLD and NSW

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30 minutes ago, durango said:

You cannot play football in empty stadiums because some time the ball is kicked into the crowd which is non existant therefore they must arrange for ball retievers in the empty stadium so the flow of the game continues, otherwise if a team needs a break in play they could deliberatly kick the ball into the vacant stadium

I wouldn't be surprised to see a few balls around the entire boundary like they are ebehind goals these days.  The balls kicked into Level 3 can be retrieved after the match.

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Greg Baum's article in today's Age should be required reading for the AFL, Clubs and Players. 

Will it change their position ?  Probably not immediately. 

Selfishness and greed prevails for the time being.

Like the Titanic,  the good ship AFL will plow on through rough seas until they hit the ice-berg that will sink the ship.  

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I am at work today. All the businesses in town are open. Precautions are being taken but life goes on. I note that most schools are still open and apparently public transport is running. Why should the AFL not go ahead at closed stadiums? We are doing our jobs and football is their job. I do not see any increased risk to society by football being played. If you think that healthy footballers not playing football will just sit at home in isolation I think you are wrong. Probably the safest place they can be is training & playing. 

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When schools are closed, public transport stops or a player is tests positive, call it off then. If that is tomorrow so be it.
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34 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Greg Baum's article in today's Age should be required reading for the AFL, Clubs and Players. 

Will it change their position ?  Probably not immediately. 

Selfishness and greed prevails for the time being.

Like the Titanic,  the good ship AFL will plow on through rough seas until they hit the ice-berg that will sink the ship.  

I disagree. I think social disruption caused by individuals being unemployed, underemployed, socially isolated and restricted from going about their normal daily affairs may lead to various negative consequences varying from mental health issues to marauding gangs going on a rampage just for something to do. People need to be kept occupied and entertained. If the AFL can help by entertaining people, it should do so. If it's forced to stop because Covid-19 affects players or officials, they should stop. But while eveyone is healthy, let them play.

Not only will it entertain people, it still provides work for people in various industries, including media, transport, stadium management, healthcare, etc, albeit at a far lower level than we would all like. 

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1 hour ago, durango said:

You cannot play football in empty stadiums because some time the ball is kicked into the crowd which is non existant therefore they must arrange for ball retievers in the empty stadium so the flow of the game continues, otherwise if a team needs a break in play they could deliberatly kick the ball into the vacant stadium

You do know that they use many more than one football at every game???

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2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

are state sponsored games in tassie, alice springs, darwin etc at risk. the states (sponsors) involved only pay on the understanding of increased visitors and tourism dollars. Without those benefits they may not cough up and those games would revert to traditional home games,

What, Daisy, a state not honouring its commitment.?    This isn't Chyna.  Is It.?

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47 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I disagree. I think social disruption caused by individuals being unemployed, underemployed, socially isolated and restricted from going about their normal daily affairs may lead to various negative consequences varying from mental health issues to marauding gangs going on a rampage just for something to do. People need to be kept occupied and entertained. If the AFL can help by entertaining people, it should do so. If it's forced to stop because Covid-19 affects players or officials, they should stop. But while eveyone is healthy, let them play.

Not only will it entertain people, it still provides work for people in various industries, including media, transport, stadium management, healthcare, etc, albeit at a far lower level than we would all like. 

The alternative view. Agree to disagree. I will choose life over entertainment. 

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52 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I disagree. I think social disruption caused by individuals being unemployed, underemployed, socially isolated and restricted from going about their normal daily affairs may lead to various negative consequences varying from mental health issues to marauding gangs going on a rampage just for something to do. People need to be kept occupied and entertained. If the AFL can help by entertaining people, it should do so. If it's forced to stop because Covid-19 affects players or officials, they should stop. But while eveyone is healthy, let them play.

Not only will it entertain people, it still provides work for people in various industries, including media, transport, stadium management, healthcare, etc, albeit at a far lower level than we would all like. 

Great post there is the silent/ invisible problem of mental health. My income stream has been closed by the local council, so what am I supposed to do? Sit home getting bored or depressed? Won't happen to me but it will become a problem for more and more people. Diversions like the football are most welcome.

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27 minutes ago, hemingway said:

The alternative view. Agree to disagree. I will choose life over entertainment. 

Ernie I agree with choosing life over entertainment but I fail to see the link at this time.

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The local infection rate is approximately 1 in a 100,000 in Australia as of today and of those infected 5 have died. 5 of 25,000,000 -This year 92 people have died on our roads.
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2 hours ago, durango said:

You cannot play football in empty stadiums because some time the ball is kicked into the crowd which is non existant therefore they must arrange for ball retievers in the empty stadium so the flow of the game continues, otherwise if a team needs a break in play they could deliberatly kick the ball into the vacant stadium

They've got more than one ball. Have you seen behind kick-ins recently?

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12 minutes ago, ManDee said:

The local infection rate is approximately 1 in a million in Australia as of today

According to the Federal Government's official numbers, there were 565 cases as of this morning.

Not sure where you get the figure of one in a million, which would equal only about 25 cases.

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8 minutes ago, demonstone said:

According to the Federal Government's official numbers, there were 565 cases as of this morning.

Not sure where you get the figure of one in a million, which would equal only about 25 cases.

Confirmed locally transmitted cases less than 250 yesterday. The others are considered overseas acquired . Panic now try 1 in 100,000, that is one contagious person grand final day!!!  Sadly five have died to date no doubt that will increase but statistically there are many more dangerous things in society . 

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