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6 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Have you been supporting MFC, and watched Melbourne Games, for longer than you have been a member of Demonland, because what you have said i find to be insulting to several of our players whether you have or have not.

Interesting comment

I find the Commitment and mindset of many MFC Players over the last 5-6 decades to be insulting towards both the club and members

How many Norm Smith Medalists do we have??

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Assuming TMac foot/toes are okay I would throw him in the ruck occasionally when he is struggling in the forward line. Let him get his hands on the ball a bit, then put him back in the forward line!

like the sounds if what we are doing in the practice matches:

- Wings fixed with Langdon & Tomlinson, adding run, options & defensive cover.

- Harder to score against. Backline standing up better with May / Lever playing, OMac adds structure, Jetta typically beats his man, Lockhart going well, with Salem, Harmes etc.

- Small forward options with Pickett, ANB, Spargo & Bedford, medium forward options Fritsch, Melksham & Jones, bit of Petracca, only seemingly soft spot is tall forwards with TMac, Weid, LJ, & Brown ..... if just one of them steps up we’re looking good.

- Ruck Max, fit Viney, fit Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw coming good, Harmes, Jones as cover.

Bring on round one, Demons looking promising!

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4 minutes ago, D4Life said:

Assuming TMac foot/toes are okay I would throw him in the ruck occasionally when he is struggling in the forward line. Let him get his hands on the ball a bit, then put him back in the forward line!

like the sounds if what we are doing in the practice matches:

- Wings fixed with Langdon & Tomlinson, adding run, options & defensive cover.

- Harder to score against. Backline standing up better with May / Lever playing, OMac adds structure, Jetta typically beats his man, Lockhart going well, with Salem, Harmes etc.

- Small forward options with Pickett, ANB, Spargo & Bedford, medium forward options Fritsch, Melksham & Jones, bit of Petracca, only seemingly soft spot is tall forwards with TMac, Weid, LJ, & Brown ..... if just one of them steps up we’re looking good.

- Ruck Max, fit Viney, fit Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw coming good, Harmes, Jones as cover.

Bring on round one, Demons looking promising!

Yep. TMac is the only serious problem at the moment

we need him to recapture 2018 Form. A bit of Ruckwork might get him in synch again

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9 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Did anyone see what happened to Fritsch in the 3rd quarter (I think).  He was on the ground for a long time in the foetal position with a Hawthorn player hovering over him.  (Stratton?).  It was visible in the background as play went on?  Looked nasty.  To Fritsch's credit he was ready for play next time the ball went forward.

Couple of players from our side seemed to have problems with their eyes after the match.......

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12 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Interesting comment

I find the Commitment and mindset of many MFC Players over the last 5-6 decades to be insulting towards both the club and members

How many Norm Smith Medalists do we have??

It's not the curse.....it's the cheek....

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7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yep. TMac is the only serious problem at the moment

we need him to recapture 2018 Form. A bit of Ruckwork might get him in synch again

A bit of ruckwork for a player who's come back from knee surgery?

Not sure that's the best way to find form for a key forward.

 

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7 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Does that mean Spargo misses out? Very hard to pick a side which is a good thing.

Not sure, I think they look like they will play Spargo before Bedford. 
 

They might play a few of them with Casey next week to sort it out 

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Can't believe the media is creating a bit of a frenzy over Viney's 'risky sling tackle' on Stratton.  Stratton's shoulder hit the ground first, he got straight up and the umpire who was right there didn't even pay a free!

Must be a no-news day but I bet it will be played over and over this weekend and someone will demand the MRO penalises Viney under the apparent 'new' sling tackle rules.  Wouldn't put it past the MRO to look like he is doing something, penalise Viney and proceed to ignore similar or worse tackles for the rest of the year.  Shades of May last year...

Any other team it wouldn’t be an issue. 
 

I hate the media. 

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56 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

A bit of ruckwork for a player who's come back from knee surgery?

Not sure that's the best way to find form for a key forward.

 

He needs to feel the leather in his hands for a while, not just wait for it  

His form is cold  it can turn quickly, as it did against Carlscum last year (before he got injured again!!)

 

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My opinion of the efort last night jake lever grow some nuts ,all players be like jones and viney ,tracc dump the dumb smile and play footy,tmac was just a chb fluked  a few goals 2 years ago forward being shown up now as the hack he is, best 4 harmes jones viney gawn,the rest can please themselves

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

And you wonder why you get slapped around.


 

Nah, sorry, said before like having a battle of wits with unarmed opponents, they troll to call others trolls, laughablr

@dazzledavey36   you seem to be in the minority that thought Hibbo had a poor game

Same with some who thought Jetta was poor, so how much influence did Puopolo have?

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Just now, Satyriconhome said:

Nah, sorry, said before like having a battle of wits with unarmed opponents, they troll to call others trolls, laughablr

@dazzledavey36   you seem to be in the minority that thought Hibbo had a poor game

Same with some who thought Jetta was poor, so how much influence did Puopolo have?

Jetta does what he needs. People think he is a run and carry defender which he never has. I dont care if he touches the ball 8 times a game, as long as he's negating the best small forward which he does quite well. 

I watched the replay this afternoon and stick by what i said. He was poor. Against quick forwards like Richmond, Collingwood  and even West Coast he'll get found out easily.

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8 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Nah, sorry, said before like having a battle of wits with unarmed opponents, they troll to call others trolls, laughablr

@dazzledavey36   you seem to be in the minority that thought Hibbo had a poor game

Same with some who thought Jetta was poor, so how much influence did Puopolo have?

jetta was good ,not a matty whelan but close

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1 hour ago, D4Life said:

- Small forward options with Pickett, ANB, Spargo & Bedford

How many goals do they have between them I'd still call this a major point of weeknedss, personally I don't think any are at AFL standard currently in that position its just unproven potential 

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48 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He needs to feel the leather in his hands for a while, not just wait for it  

His form is cold  it can turn quickly, as it did against Carlscum last year (before he got injured again!!)

 

Sure, which means we need to fix up the forward structure and get the ball in there well, not put him in a different part of the ground where there's a better chance he'll re-injure his knee.

 

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3 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

 

Totally, a veteran like him just would be. At this point in his career he would approach a practice match with more than a degree of indifference, and I would not blame him for one second. Same with Jetta. 

Let's see how these guys play when it actually matters, because let's be honest, these games don't mean a thing.

I think many senior players are cautions Re injury at this time of season, so this effects their output, either deliberately or sometimes sub consciously.  I think he'll be fine when the real stuff kicks off.

I do want to see Lockhart in as well, so maybe Salem off the bench.?

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17 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jetta does what he needs. People think he is a run and carry defender which he never has. I dont care if he touches the ball 8 times a game, as long as he's negating the best small forward which he does quite well. 

I watched the replay this afternoon and stick by what i said. He was poor. Against quick forwards like Richmond, Collingwood  and even West Coast he'll get found out easily.

IMO Hibbos first half was woeful. Fumbled and disposal was way off, he's fitter than last year but his kicking ain't anywhere near where it was previously.

Only pre season but the penetration he had previously doesn't look to be there.

I'm a Spargo fan, he's got footy smarts and used it well with limited posession also provided good pressure.

Lockhart looks a gem with the full pre season behind him 

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I think Hibberd for all his work, just has no clue in disposing. He considers his options and always goes long to a pack. Reminds me of Brent Moloney. It always comes straight back. For all his possessions I think his days are numbered.

And we dont look to give forwards many benefits, it is still coming in long to the pack. I often saw a forward waiting with 2 or 3 opponents for a long ball to arrive. G.Lyon was all over it. I have not been a big fan of his media work but gazza has turned into an interesting commentator IMV.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

A bit of ruckwork for a player who's come back from knee surgery?

Not sure that's the best way to find form for a key forward.

 

Surgery he had in July...he doesn’t even have to jump at the center bounces, just be a follower around the ground to get some easy touches and have some marking contests where he doesn’t have a key defender all over him. 

The forward structure isn’t perfect but Melksham and Fritsch both took opportunities. Tom didn’t look as likely. If he’s barely touched it by half time against the Eagles then he’s pretty much asking for a run in the ruck. 

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On the positive side, I saw better work by Spargo and Weid. I hadnt taken into consideration Spargo's reduced pre-season. I do really like Lockhart and Bedford and I wish I could distinguish them better!

Until they turn to show their numbers Im not sure which one it is, other than if it is the back half its probably Lockhart.

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16 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Sure, which means we need to fix up the forward structure and get the ball in there well, not put him in a different part of the ground where there's a better chance he'll re-injure his knee.

 

If he is worried about his knee, he shouldn’t play. Injuries can happen just as easily in the goal square in a pack mark situation. 
once you cross the white line....

He needs to get the ball in his hands. 
TMac is a confidence player

right now he is cold, his timing is out

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