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No leadership group means plenty of responsibility.

How a ‘disappointed’ Jack Viney responded to losing Melbourne captaincy role

Melbourne coach Goodwin said Viney had responded positively to his new role.

“My conversations with him have been really simple; he is all in,” Goodwin said.

“He wants this club to be the best club it can be, he wants to support Max in the best way that he can.

“There will be people out there that will say, ‘Is he all in?’ Well, if you ask that question you don’t know Jack Viney. He’s never been more passionate about this footy club.”

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Takes a bit of pressure of the young fella imv and, barring injury, should see him return to (or very near) his best. 

If it was me i would be very flattered and honored to know my team mates and coaches voted me into this important role.

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Good to hear.

It's not as though he's been dumped by the club though - he remains one of only 2 official leaders, and is the club's Vice Captain.

It feels that the club is getting things right at the moment i.e. it seems to be actively addressing all of the issues which arose last season.

I suspect Viney may very well be a better Vice Captain than a Captain - it just seems to be more his role.

 

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Maybe it's just me, but I would have preferred to have heard this directly from Jack. I get that he probably wouldn't want to get the 3rd degree at that presser, but him not even turning up doesn't seem overly congruent with him being 'all in'.

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23 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

Maybe it's just me, but I would have preferred to have heard this directly from Jack. I get that he probably wouldn't want to get the 3rd degree at that presser, but him not even turning up doesn't seem overly congruent with him being 'all in'.

As long as he gets “all in” and turns up when it counts. 

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Listening to the interview, I can see why Goodwin would have such a good relationship with his players.  He speaks with real simplicity and straight down the line, but also in a very supportive and respectful manner about his players that they would feel like he has their backs.  Would have been a great captain to play under himself I recon.

The whole two man, captain/vice captain leadership group his Goodwins personality stamped all over it I feel too.

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2 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

Maybe it's just me, but I would have preferred to have heard this directly from Jack. I get that he probably wouldn't want to get the 3rd degree at that presser, but him not even turning up doesn't seem overly congruent with him being 'all in'.

Couldn't have Viney at the presser as it would have taken the focus off Maxy and offered an opportunity for the gutter dwelling journos to question Viney about how disappointed he might be etc

I have no doubt Viney would be hurting about the decision but I also have no doubt his number one priority is the success of the MFC

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8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Couldn't have Viney at the presser as it would have taken the focus off Maxy and offered an opportunity for the gutter dwelling journos to question Viney about how disappointed he might be etc

I have no doubt Viney would be hurting about the decision but I also have no doubt his number one priority is the success of the MFC

Absolutely DG. The story is Max and the non-leadership group thing as explained by Goodwin. Anything else would have been a distraction for the lazy journos in the room.

I also felt the interviews showed out a solid relationship between Goodwin and Gawn which is important.

Albeit on a number of occasions whist Max was speaking it was all Goodwin could do to hide a smile and not look too amused by Max's utterings.

Lots of air time coming up this season which the club and the AFL will love.

I also suspect most journos will take a press opportunity with Max than most or any other skippers around.

 

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10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Couldn't have Viney at the presser as it would have taken the focus off Maxy and offered an opportunity for the gutter dwelling journos to question Viney about how disappointed he might be etc

I have no doubt Viney would be hurting about the decision but I also have no doubt his number one priority is the success of the MFC

I see your point and I won't stick at this like a dog at a bone. 
Perhaps now is not the time for Jack to do this. Nonetheless, I would like to hear something from Jack a bit further down the line. It doesn't have to be at a full blown presser. Just a doorstop interview where he confidently and assertively commits to the cause.
Unfortunately, nature abhors a vaccuum, and it will be filled by those with an agenda if not filled by us. At some point, it needs to be addressed.

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I suspect the issue may be addressed in an up coming episode of “Hell and back”..!?!

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1 hour ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I see your point and I won't stick at this like a dog at a bone. 
Perhaps now is not the time for Jack to do this. Nonetheless, I would like to hear something from Jack a bit further down the line. It doesn't have to be at a full blown presser. Just a doorstop interview where he confidently and assertively commits to the cause.
Unfortunately, nature abhors a vaccuum, and it will be filled by those with an agenda if not filled by us. At some point, it needs to be addressed.

I think Jack will show what he thinks when he crunches his first tackle in the first minute of the first game this season.

He knows no other way and this minor setback  - if he sees it as such - will be the making of him. 

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As vice captain , it would be nice to hear something from him.

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1 hour ago, DeeZee said:

As vice captain , it would be nice to hear something from him.

I disagree, would prefer Jack and the rest of our list, coaches and back-office personnel to take a vow of silence to atone for last year, until such time that we hold premiership cup in the air.

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17 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I disagree, would prefer Jack and the rest of our list, coaches and back-office personnel to take a vow of silence to atone for last year, until such time that we hold premiership cup in the air.

As one of only two official leaders, I’d like to hear from him.

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25 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

As one of only two official leaders, I’d like to hear from him.

I'm sure we will... when the time is right.

As Doc mentions above, the focus at the moment needs to be on Maxy, and down the line Jack can talk about it when the focus isn't on the decision anymore.  And even if we do hear from him, what's he going to say other than something like 'I'm disappointed but 100% behind Max and I can't wait to bring success to the club?'  Even if he is fuming, he isn't going to say that to the media.

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9 minutes ago, Robot Devil said:

We all see what we want to see..... but watch this video and tell me Viney is not severely [censored] off. 
 

https://watch.thewest.com.au/show/pub-109975

 

I think that’s just his face, man! 

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1 hour ago, Robot Devil said:

We all see what we want to see..... but watch this video and tell me Viney is not severely [censored] off. 
 

https://watch.thewest.com.au/show/pub-109975

 

Yes and you did, so how did you not see Viney starting to smile as they cut away?

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15 hours ago, dworship said:

Yes and you did, so how did you not see Viney starting to smile as they cut away?

That smile at the end was the most unsettling part of all.
He seemed relieved enough that he had remembered the answer he had been practicing but the it was the look of a man who had just eaten half a [censored] sandwich and then handed the rest on to his successor. 

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Wasn't there a report also that May and Lever also polled higher votes then higher? 

Interesting a few boys have put something up on social media (mostly insta stories) congratulating Gawn as captain, but nothing from Jack yet.

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20 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wasn't there a report also that May and Lever also polled higher votes then higher? 

Interesting a few boys have put something up on social media (mostly insta stories) congratulating Gawn as captain, but nothing from Jack yet.

Perhaps he done it in person

 

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