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30 minutes ago, Swooper said:

Stopped past for 5mins on way through only to see Hibbo go off with what seemed like a calf and Vanders also hobbling away from Gosch's. Not ideal.

What a 5 minutes to turn up to Swooper. Again, let’s hope nothing serious so close to the season. Unfortunately there’s not much left to cross when it comes to Vanders and hobbling. 

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Players I spoke to at Maroochy said if they feel any sort of little niggle they need to inform the staff and get off for a check so hopefully only minor and await the reports later.

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Geez the injuries are starting to stack up, after what was once a very healthy and promising pre season.

So Gawn, Brayshaw, Bennell (obviously), Hibberd and VDB will miss the Adelaide game if the latter 2 are confirmed as injured.

Hibberd will be lucky to play round 1 if he's done his calf proper.

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As usual the early bird gets the worm.  Advertised to start at 10.30 training started shortly before 9.30 and to retain consistency I was straight over to the rehab group.

In attendance were Hannan, Smith, Melksham, Brayshaw and Chandler.  All did full rehab which includes agility, kicking, marking, goal practice, and multiple runs along the boundary at full pace.  Interestingly though Smith was only kicking with his left so I'd imagine a small issue with his right foot but nothing major given his rehab program.  All these guys will be good when over known issues and Melk and Smith look fine.

Gawn and Spargo were doing slow runs along the boundary.  We know Max's situation but Spargo has obviously got an issue.  There was no indication what it might be but he is in the initial stages of rehab so I think he's weeks away.  Bennell turned up later to do his usual program which hasn't changed since he's been at the club.  These are based on slow half paced runs along the boundary.  He clearly got bored as he grabbed a ball and was bouncing it as he ran but to mix it up a bit he'd bounce it with one hand and catch it with the other.  He never used two hands.  The guy is a freak. 

There was no sign of May, Petty (who watched for a while), Cory  Wagner and KK and all others did full training.

To cut to the chase let's talk Hibbo and AVB.  I was standing about 20 metres from where he can off and the issue was with his right foot.  He was limping quite noticeably.  Shoe and sock off and he seemed to be looking at the ball of his foot.  The trainer/physio spent quite some time taping the bottom of the foot but there was little or no "pushing and prodding" to identify sore areas.  Boots back on and a small jog but to no avail and Vanders was off for the day.  For my untrained eye I think is more blister related than structural and I'm not overly worried at this stage. 

While all this was going on Hibbo appeared to twist and ankle.  He hobbled to the boundary behind the goals and seemed in some trouble but after a physio went to look at him he was back into the match sims and appeared okay but he too left training early.  It doesn't seem a big issue.

Preussy also left training early with what looked like a kick on the calf but his info was from Saty, I didn't see it happen or see him leave.

So the good was to see Hannan and Melk look close and Maxy running.

The bad was injuries to AVB, Hibbo and Preuss and the mystery of May and Petty.

And the ugly was Harmes horror training session where everything (bar injury) that could go wrong pretty much did.  He's been a star on the track this preseason but not today.  Even kicks to him in match sim were cut off and I think he should ditch the new yellow boots he was sporting.

As for the session itself it was pretty standard fare.  Warm ups, kicking, handball drills, individual training for Weid who was practicing his marking and match sims.  They mix it all up.  There will usually be two or three three quarter ground match sims mixed in with a whole range of different drill usually involving about 10 to 12 players in 3 different groups rotating through the set.

Of note today in the first match sim particularly was Oscar Baker.  He was in everything, his kicking was really good and he outpointed Tomlinson for quite some time.  But he faded as the session went on and was utterly spent at the finish and could hardly raise a gallop.  So much for being "ready to go" when you get out of rehab.  Of the rest of the players it was an even performance with nobody really standing out and everyone having a moment or two.  Perhaps the other standout was Jones who looks in great nick.

Let's hope for the best with AVB, we might not know for a while as he usually doesn't do Wednesday sessions.  And news on May would also be good.

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The medicos didn't look overly concerned with Vanders, after a looksee and discussion

Hibbo just walked past me in Edwina with a pressure bandage on his calf/knee, again doesn't look major

Preuss went off as well, again nothing major

Hannan is really close, my lady who got to training, was impressed when he was chasing a loose ball and 'hopped' over the fence

He was doing all the ability work without an issue

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2 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

As usual the early bird gets the worm. 

Thanks Bob, wish I'd been there, great report as usual. Honourable mention to Saty.

Regarding Smith; perhaps it was the foot he cut open at the beach and they just don't want any impact on it? Hope so anyway.

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May has fluid in the knee, I am lead to believe, as a result of the clean-up op. He will be off training for the next week. I am no Dr, so can't elaborate, but having had knee issues myself, know that this is a pretty normal part of post-surgery. Not ideal though. 

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OK, Baghdad Bob has most things covered but from what I saw:

Vanders - had looked in great nick until he stretched for an errant Kossie handball. It looked to me like he stubbed his toe chasing the handball down, but he was clearly a bit sore, and laughed off the first trainer before finishing early. It could be as simple as a blister, but anything to do with the feet for him worries all of us.

Hibberd - backed into a pack and flying Fritter caught him around the hip region - as mentioned on website a corky is likely. Did resume some training before heading off early. 

Nice to see Tomlinson and Baker do full sessions and Hannan did more running and kicking than I've seen for quite a while - looks close to resuming. Melky did a lot of rehab with him - nor sure why, probably still sore from his wedding night.

Smith and Brayshaw did 15 sets of 100,80,60m and I reckon Angus will be having an afternoon nap now. But I reckon his effort to stick with our No.1 athlete for almost every sprint was the best performance of the day. If Gussie keeps this up, he'll be an absolute livewire this season. As for Smithy, he looks in super shape for his matchup with Jack Darling in Rd 1. As to his left-foot kicking, he reckons he was just giving his right-foot a rest and judging by his balldrop, he does need to keep practising his lefties.

Others to catch my eye:

ANB: I keep going on about him, but today he even nailed a set shot in front of the group from 45-50m out. He is constantly intercepting and tackling. Yep he has to do it in a game, but his pre-season work has been unbelievable.

Trac: The club reckons he'll play forward and mid and I'm sure he will, but he is everywhere at the moment. His effort dispatching three opponents in a tackling drill was the stuff of Rene Kink. The club has to figure out whether they can afford to have two pods chasing the tap in the middle at the one time or whether Olly and him just keep rotating through there.

T.Mac - Yes I know he's not fashionable either, but his hands are vice like and he looks a tad quicker when presenting. Obviously the real test will come when opponents get serious, but he now looks like an arrogant key forward, which is what we want him to be.

Jay Lockhart - Really love what he's done pre-season. He's just so nimble and evasive and his kicking is really sound. Whether he gets a game will depend on injury, but he's a very classy defender and my smoky for the Liston Trophy. 

Main worry: No May again and no Petty.   

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1 hour ago, Deespicable said:

OK, Baghdad Bob has most things covered but from what I saw:

Vanders - had looked in great nick until he stretched for an errant Kossie handball. It looked to me like he stubbed his toe chasing the handball down, but he was clearly a bit sore, and laughed off the first trainer before finishing early. It could be as simple as a blister, but anything to do with the feet for him worries all of us.

Hibberd - backed into a pack and flying Fritter caught him around the hip region - as mentioned on website a corky is likely. Did resume some training before heading off early. 

Nice to see Tomlinson and Baker do full sessions and Hannan did more running and kicking than I've seen for quite a while - looks close to resuming. Melky did a lot of rehab with him - nor sure why, probably still sore from his wedding night.

Smith and Brayshaw did 15 sets of 100,80,60m and I reckon Angus will be having an afternoon nap now. But I reckon his effort to stick with our No.1 athlete for almost every sprint was the best performance of the day. If Gussie keeps this up, he'll be an absolute livewire this season. As for Smithy, he looks in super shape for his matchup with Jack Darling in Rd 1. As to his left-foot kicking, he reckons he was just giving his right-foot a rest and judging by his balldrop, he does need to keep practising his lefties.

Others to catch my eye:

ANB: I keep going on about him, but today he even nailed a set shot in front of the group from 45-50m out. He is constantly intercepting and tackling. Yep he has to do it in a game, but his pre-season work has been unbelievable.

Trac: The club reckons he'll play forward and mid and I'm sure he will, but he is everywhere at the moment. His effort dispatching three opponents in a tackling drill was the stuff of Rene Kink. The club has to figure out whether they can afford to have two pods chasing the tap in the middle at the one time or whether Olly and him just keep rotating through there.

T.Mac - Yes I know he's not fashionable either, but his hands are vice like and he looks a tad quicker when presenting. Obviously the real test will come when opponents get serious, but he now looks like an arrogant key forward, which is what we want him to be.

Jay Lockhart - Really love what he's done pre-season. He's just so nimble and evasive and his kicking is really sound. Whether he gets a game will depend on injury, but he's a very classy defender and my smoky for the Liston Trophy. 

Main worry: No May again and no Petty.   

Thanks for the report.

Its interesting you have Jay as defender (i assume that's who he has been training with?).

I can see him as small defender (but would have to get past Jetts) but i can also see him as a small forward.

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4 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

May has fluid in the knee, I am lead to believe, as a result of the clean-up op. He will be off training for the next week. I am no Dr, so can't elaborate, but having had knee issues myself, know that this is a pretty normal part of post-surgery. Not ideal though.

Excellent intel. Thanks for sharing it.

 

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6 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

As usual the early bird gets the worm.  Advertised to start at 10.30 training started shortly before 9.30 and to retain consistency I was straight over to the rehab group.

In attendance were Hannan, Smith, Melksham, Brayshaw and Chandler.  All did full rehab which includes agility, kicking, marking, goal practice, and multiple runs along the boundary at full pace.  Interestingly though Smith was only kicking with his left so I'd imagine a small issue with his right foot but nothing major given his rehab program.  All these guys will be good when over known issues and Melk and Smith look fine.

Gawn and Spargo were doing slow runs along the boundary.  We know Max's situation but Spargo has obviously got an issue.  There was no indication what it might be but he is in the initial stages of rehab so I think he's weeks away.  Bennell turned up later to do his usual program which hasn't changed since he's been at the club.  These are based on slow half paced runs along the boundary.  He clearly got bored as he grabbed a ball and was bouncing it as he ran but to mix it up a bit he'd bounce it with one hand and catch it with the other.  He never used two hands.  The guy is a freak. 

There was no sign of May, Petty (who watched for a while), Cory  Wagner and KK and all others did full training.

To cut to the chase let's talk Hibbo and AVB.  I was standing about 20 metres from where he can off and the issue was with his right foot.  He was limping quite noticeably.  Shoe and sock off and he seemed to be looking at the ball of his foot.  The trainer/physio spent quite some time taping the bottom of the foot but there was little or no "pushing and prodding" to identify sore areas.  Boots back on and a small jog but to no avail and Vanders was off for the day.  For my untrained eye I think is more blister related than structural and I'm not overly worried at this stage. 

While all this was going on Hibbo appeared to twist and ankle.  He hobbled to the boundary behind the goals and seemed in some trouble but after a physio went to look at him he was back into the match sims and appeared okay but he too left training early.  It doesn't seem a big issue.

Preussy also left training early with what looked like a kick on the calf but his info was from Saty, I didn't see it happen or see him leave.

So the good was to see Hannan and Melk look close and Maxy running.

The bad was injuries to AVB, Hibbo and Preuss and the mystery of May and Petty.

And the ugly was Harmes horror training session where everything (bar injury) that could go wrong pretty much did.  He's been a star on the track this preseason but not today.  Even kicks to him in match sim were cut off and I think he should ditch the new yellow boots he was sporting.

As for the session itself it was pretty standard fare.  Warm ups, kicking, handball drills, individual training for Weid who was practicing his marking and match sims.  They mix it all up.  There will usually be two or three three quarter ground match sims mixed in with a whole range of different drill usually involving about 10 to 12 players in 3 different groups rotating through the set.

Of note today in the first match sim particularly was Oscar Baker.  He was in everything, his kicking was really good and he outpointed Tomlinson for quite some time.  But he faded as the session went on and was utterly spent at the finish and could hardly raise a gallop.  So much for being "ready to go" when you get out of rehab.  Of the rest of the players it was an even performance with nobody really standing out and everyone having a moment or two.  Perhaps the other standout was Jones who looks in great nick.

Let's hope for the best with AVB, we might not know for a while as he usually doesn't do Wednesday sessions.  And news on May would also be good.

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Thanks BB  read earlier and after seeing others didn't spot any mention of Dunkley? Is he still the invisible man you mentioned who has plenty of possession but not noticed or has he dropped off?

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