Training Ground?

[Rednblueriseing 646]

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Geelong sells the active lifestyle of the surf coast. I'm not as familiar with the Peninsula but it seems more suited to retirees.

The Peninsula is amazing for everyone including the surfers, as you may already know alot of footballs live out that way including our skipper. 

[george_on_the_outer 6,944]

17 hours ago, drdrake said:

You can stamp your feet all you want, unless we get state and federal money nothing will happen.  The club would have had many meetings and submissions, unfortunately giving more money to the Olympic Park/mcg precinct isn't a high priority when you have a health and education crisis in most states of Australia.

Sorry, would love to see our club get millions like other clubs but at this time there is bigger priorities 

Trouble is  this Board has been saying for the past 2 years " we can't say anything yet because of what the government will allow us to say".    To date: nothing!

Prior to that Glen Bartlett said he would have a training facility before he quit.  Nothing, and the same Board is still there.

Prior to that.....go back to Ian Ridley when proposing the merger with Hawthorn....we will get a training facility!

Go to the 2020-23 MFC strategic plan. Item 5 " start construction of a new Melbourne home base facility"  12 months to go and nothing!

So other clubs can "get millions" which are used to refurbish existing facilities, but we don't even have that.  The ONLY club in the AFL which doesn't!
 

[layzie 28,488]

12 hours ago, Rednblueriseing said:

The Peninsula is amazing for everyone including the surfers, as you may already know alot of footballs live out that way including our skipper. 

Post favourite surf spots here please. 

[Supreme_Demon 3,009]

6 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Trouble is  this Board has been saying for the past 2 years " we can't say anything yet because of what the government will allow us to say".    To date: nothing!

Prior to that Glen Bartlett said he would have a training facility before he quit.  Nothing, and the same Board is still there.

Prior to that.....go back to Ian Ridley when proposing the merger with Hawthorn....we will get a training facility!

Go to the 2020-23 MFC strategic plan. Item 5 " start construction of a new Melbourne home base facility"  12 months to go and nothing!

So other clubs can "get millions" which are used to refurbish existing facilities, but we don't even have that.  The ONLY club in the AFL which doesn't!
 

Exactly!

It isn't about "stamping feet" and having a tantrum. We are adults here. I don't expect our home ground to be built in 12 months.

I am realistic that things take time. Dealing with the Government is never an easy or swift process.

All we want is to see some progress!

[Lord Nev 13,511]

7 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

So other clubs can "get millions" which are used to refurbish existing facilities, but we don't even have that.  The ONLY club in the AFL which doesn't!

Incorrect.

Gosch's:

The Government will kick in $2 million towards the redevelopment of Gosch’s Paddock oval, with the AFL and Melbourne combining to contribute $1 million.

Demons and community to win from Gosch’s Paddock upgrade

Casey:

The upgrades are being jointly funded by the state government ($5 million), the City of Casey ($2.5 million) and the AFL ($500,000).

Melbourne set to benefit from $8 million upgrade of Casey Fields in major AFLW investment

[Demons1858 1,657]

[DeeSpencer 23,058]

Watch Hawthorn attempt to own the peninsula and set up a Geelong east set up out of Dingley with players encouraged to move down the coast.

Not impossible from Casey but it’s actually further from Mornington than Dingley is. The roads are a mess. Public transport is non existent. The community has little to no interest in afl footy. Little interest in anything but kfc, long commutes in mid sized SUV’s and roundabouts.

In fact I’ll even go ahead and say all the suburbs out there shouldn’t exist. They are future slums way way too far from Melbourne and not at all connected with a satellite city. The Casey fields precinct is lipstick on a pig. One big collection of sporting facilities because they can’t get developers to actually spread them throughout these awful excuses for suburbs. And the community doesn’t use them enough to justify them so they’re all rented out to elite sporting clubs.

The entire area is a shrine to abysmal urban planning and development, corruption and greed.

Edited September 29, 2022 by DeeSpencer

[george_on_the_outer 6,944]

11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Incorrect.

Gosch's:

The Government will kick in $2 million towards the redevelopment of Gosch’s Paddock oval, with the AFL and Melbourne combining to contribute $1 million.

Demons and community to win from Gosch’s Paddock upgrade

Casey:

The upgrades are being jointly funded by the state government ($5 million), the City of Casey ($2.5 million) and the AFL ($500,000).

Melbourne set to benefit from $8 million upgrade of Casey Fields in major AFLW investment

Really should read the articles before posting. 2018 for Casey.

We are not looking for crumbs. Others have had tens of millions given to them to build facilities. And then more to upgrade them.
We don’t have one in 2022!!

[Lord Nev 13,511]

3 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Really should read the articles before posting. 2018 for Casey.

We are not looking for crumbs. Others have had tens of millions given to them to build facilities. And then more to upgrade them.
We don’t have one in 2022!!

I'm with you on the wait for a 'proper' home base, but your assertion was other clubs had been given millions from governments and we hadn't.

There's literally 9.5 million right there.

(You'll also note the article is from August 2019)

Edited September 29, 2022 by Lord Nev

[old dee 22,808]

26 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Really should read the articles before posting. 2018 for Casey.

We are not looking for crumbs. Others have had tens of millions given to them to build facilities. And then more to upgrade them.
We don’t have one in 2022!!

You are wasting your breath George.

[old dee 22,808]

43 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Watch Hawthorn attempt to own the peninsula and set up a Geelong east set up out of Dingley with players encouraged to move down the coast.

Not impossible from Casey but it’s actually further from Mornington than Dingley is. The roads are a mess. Public transport is non existent. The community has little to no interest in afl footy. Little interest in anything but kfc, long commutes in mid sized SUV’s and roundabouts.

In fact I’ll even go ahead and say all the suburbs out there shouldn’t exist. They are future slums way way too far from Melbourne and not at all connected with a satellite city. The Casey fields precinct is lipstick on a pig. One big collection of sporting facilities because they can’t get developers to actually spread them throughout these awful excuses for suburbs. And the community doesn’t use them enough to justify them so they’re all rented out to elite sporting clubs.

The entire area is a shrine to abysmal urban planning and development, corruption and greed.

We currently don't have a pig or lipstick.

[Trisul 636]

56 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Watch Hawthorn attempt to own the peninsula and set up a Geelong east set up out of Dingley with players encouraged to move down the coast.

Not impossible from Casey but it’s actually further from Mornington than Dingley is.

Dingley is approx 10km or 33% further from Mornington than Casey Fields.

Edited September 29, 2022 by Trisul

[DeeSpencer 23,058]

Just now, Trisul said:

Dingley is approx 10km or %33 further from Mornington than Casey Fields.

Shorter in time with direct freeways outside of peak hour rather than clogged arterial roads 

[daisycutter 28,452]

13 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Shorter in time with direct freeways outside of peak hour rather than clogged arterial roads 

you're kidding, surely

[—coach— 3,466]

30 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Shorter in time with direct freeways outside of peak hour rather than clogged arterial roads 

43 mins versus 42 mins to Rosebud. Any further down the Peninsular and the time add is the same for each.

[Demon Dynasty 15,202]

42 minutes ago, old dee said:

We currently don't have a pig or lipstick.

TKO to you OD 👏🏻

[DeeSpencer 23,058]

23 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

you're kidding, surely

Google maps right now, Main St Mornington via Penn Link and Mordi Fwy to the Hawks facility at Dingley is 33 mins, to Casey is 40.

Swap directions is 37 a piece.

Dingley is ideally placed that players are within an easy commute of the peninsula and the inner bayside suburbs. It’s a genius move from Hawthorn.

[Demon Dynasty 15,202]

45 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Shorter in time with direct freeways outside of peak hour rather than clogged arterial roads 

100%

[Demon Dynasty 15,202]

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Google maps right now, Main St Mornington via Penn Link and Mordi Fwy to the Hawks facility at Dingley is 33 mins, to Casey is 40.

Swap directions is 37 a piece.

Dingley is ideally placed that players are within an easy commute of the peninsula and the inner bayside suburbs. It’s a genius move from Hawthorn.

Planning their exit from Tassie into another another district DS?  Competition for hearts & minds is fierce and not limited to on field performance.

[DeeSpencer 23,058]

5 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Planning their exit from Tassie into another another district DS?  Competition for hearts & minds is fierce and not limited to on field performance.

AFLW team playing at Frankston for the rest of the season, that’s exactly what they’ll be doing 

[rpfc 27,391]

On 9/28/2022 at 9:20 AM, old dee said:

It will be our major facility for some time if not forever. Time to embrace  it. Pipe dreamers won’t agree but five years on from the dream we have a surface up grade at Goschs and continuing silence from the MFC. Hardly spectacular progress.

Yes, we’ll be the Greater Melbourne Demons. Always wanted to be a regional AND city club.

Seriously though. I don’t care any more. I know we can compete from Casey and I know that it will grow and be an elite facility and we should lean in to that side of the bay and be done with it.

[Roger Mellie 3,483]

1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

We are not looking for crumbs. Others have had tens of millions given to them to build facilities.

For example:

Kardinia Park Upgrade Stage 5 - $142m

Richmond Demolition of Punt Road & Rebuild $65m ($30m from Govt)

North $10m - 2018 and $7m $2020

Saints $30m

Carlton $30m for Ikon Park Redevelopment (Mix of state and federal funding)

Hawthorn $20m - ($15m from feds, $5m from council plus an unspecified amount from state govt)

Melbourne.......wait for it......... $2m

 

 

[Engorged Onion 9,224]

2 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

For example:

Kardinia Park Upgrade Stage 5 - $142m

Richmond Demolition of Punt Road & Rebuild $65m ($30m from Govt)

North $10m - 2018 and $7m $2020

Saints $30m

Carlton $30m for Ikon Park Redevelopment (Mix of state and federal funding)

Hawthorn $20m - ($15m from feds, $5m from council plus an unspecified amount from state govt)

Melbourne.......wait for it......... $2m

 

 

Good research, and looks damning...

Anything on Essendon or Western Bulldogs @Roger Mellie?

* I wouldn't know where to begin to source that info...

[Lord Nev 13,511]

2 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Melbourne.......wait for it......... $2m

$9.5m as listed above.

[rjay 23,852]

7 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

$9.5m as listed above.

Still a fair way short old son.