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2 hours ago, It's Time said:

So by the sounds of it we are going to end up with everything we wanted, virtually MCG sized ground, state of the art training facilities, Admin and FD combined in the one place. Function facilities for a Social Club and events. All in the MCG precinct. 

Only issue is it's not what we expected if we were hoping for a permanent MFC owned stand alone facility. In the short term we don't have the cost of building our own standalone facility in the long term we don't have our own standalone facility. 

Will be really interested to see what the deal ends up being are we just long term tenants like we are now or will they negotiate some sort of long term security to be there which isn't an exorbitant rent. From memory the whole club was going to be in AAMI but the rent was so exorbitant we had to split the Admin to the MCG where the MCC looked after us on rent. 

How do you get any of that out of what has actually been officially announced? LH is 100% right, all this is is a bigger ground to train on. 'Training facilities' encompasses so much more than that and is not included. This is a nothing announcement and we still don't have one home.

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6 minutes ago, BDA said:

I think its a positive development. Not sure why the govt would bother tipping in to increase oval size if not part of a broader plan 

It’s a development yes, but in the scheme of things makes very little tangible difference. Talk of an AAMI park redevelopment for an event (WWC) which is less than 2 years away is also just plain false

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1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

And while they’re at it, how about renaming it “Robbie’s Paddock” in honour of Robbie Flower?

good idea, jack

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Why is it called Gosch's Paddock?
 
 
Known simply as 'Cow Paddock' back in the 1870's when the land was used for grazing, nearer the turn of the century the land was leased by the Melbourne City Council to William Henry Gosch as a holding area for his local transport company's horses.

 

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2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thank you.

The club didn't announce a new facility as Tom Browne forecast.  And while I appreciate the reporting by @Gougaand @daisycutter, if correct why wouldn't the club say such.

Happily to await more info from the club to say it is more than a bigger paddock.

I think Pert has mentioned a few times that it will be the Victorian Government's announcement and they will decide the timing, not us. 

I was hopeful today would be the day, but obviously not. Like others have suggested, there is no point announcing the oval upgrade unless it is part of a bigger plan. My mail is AAMI park will be upgraded/extended (in an east direction, over the carpark towards Gosh's Paddock) and this upgrade will accommodate our new rooms, gym, etc. 

Hope we hear it from the Government soon.   

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12 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Melbourne supporters you are getting a hotel built for you

Melbourne supporters: "but I wanted the Taj Mahal"

 

They’re moving a fence and we’ve got people on here saying Pert and Roffey are heroes, let’s get some perspective. It’s good news to get some investment regardless of the level but let’s not make this out to be any more than it is.

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Just now, GoodTimesGrimes said:

They’re moving a fence and we’ve got people on here saying Pert and Roffey are heroes, let’s get some perspective. It’s good news to get some investment regardless of the level but let’s not make this out to be any more than it is.

If you think this isn't "more than it is" then you've missed the entire point.

 

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11 minutes ago, Gouga said:

I think Pert has mentioned a few times that it will be the Victorian Government's announcement and they will decide the timing, not us. 

I was hopeful today would be the day, but obviously not. Like others have suggested, there is no point announcing the oval upgrade unless it is part of a bigger plan. My mail is AAMI park will be upgraded/extended (in an east direction, over the carpark towards Gosh's Paddock) and this upgrade will accommodate our new rooms, gym, etc. 

Hope we hear it from the Government soon.   

Thanks.  I understand the club's predicament and the need to wait for gov't announcements.   I just didn't share the excitement today and felt I needed to explain why.

Re the AAMI park extension.  Do you know if it will bring our football and admin staff together rather than be split between AFMI and MCG and if the new facilities will be connected in some way to Gosch so that they don't have to lug gear back and forth?  I ask as past announcements by the Board have included these as deliverables..  I just hope that our goals aren't being watered down.

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4 minutes ago, GoodTimesGrimes said:

They’re moving a fence and we’ve got people on here saying Pert and Roffey are heroes, let’s get some perspective. It’s good news to get some investment regardless of the level but let’s not make this out to be any more than it is.

It's more than has been given to us for 150 years, so it is a big deal and it is a win for the club.

Why can't people take  the good news for what it is?

There is a lot of work still to be done, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't celebrate the wins along the way. It's like saying I won't be happy to win a H&A game because we haven't won the premiership.

 

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1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

If you think this isn't "more than it is" then you've missed the entire point.

 

It isn’t more than it is until it’s official and we’re in the middle of a once in a generation pandemic that is draining the public purse. I have no doubt that this would be part of a multi phase approach and that it’s likely an extension of existing facilities adjacent at AAMI Park, but until announced and official it isn’t worth celebrating. 

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We've had no development on this front for years.

We get at least a step in the right direction and half of Demonland complains about it.

At absolute worst it is a positive because it is more than we previously had.

At best, as many have said, it is a sign of more to come: I would find it very difficult to accept that the AFL and the government would all stand there today to call a press conference with the MFC to announce these changes, and the MFC would tip in half a million of its own money, if there was even a small possibility we'd long term end up elsewhere.

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2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

And while they’re at it, how about renaming it “Robbie’s Paddock” in honour of Robbie Flower?

I'm not sure if you were being serious, but I would be very disappointed if it lost the name of "Gosch's Paddock". There's something noble about preserving the history of the site for the league's oldest club. On the other hand, I'd love there to be a few rows of seating along one side which could be named "The Flower Stand".   

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3 minutes ago, GoodTimesGrimes said:

It isn’t more than it is until it’s official and we’re in the middle of a once in a generation pandemic that is draining the public purse. I have no doubt that this would be part of a multi phase approach and that it’s likely an extension of existing facilities adjacent at AAMI Park, but until announced and official it isn’t worth celebrating. 

Correct, money is super tight everywhere right? There's a hint in that then...

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5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thanks.  I understand the club's predicament and the need to wait for gov't announcements.   I just didn't share the excitement today and felt I needed to explain why.

Re the AAMI park extension.  Do you know if it will bring our football and admin staff together rather than be split between AFMI and MCG and if the new facilities will be connected in some way to Gosch so that they don't have to lug gear back and forth?  I ask as past announcements by the Board have included these as deliverables..  I just hope that our goals aren't being watered down.

That's a big yes on football and admin. The whole club will be under one roof.  

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6 minutes ago, Gouga said:

That's a big yes on football and admin. The whole club will be under one roof.  

And that is really all that is needed. Good facilities for player training  and staff. 

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26 minutes ago, Gouga said:

My mail is AAMI park will be upgraded/extended (in an east direction, over the carpark towards Gosh's Paddock) and this upgrade will accommodate our new rooms, gym, etc. 

Assume they'll just build over the carpark and it won't technically be an extension of AAMI Park as such?

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Finally we get a full size training ground for the men’s and women’s training programs and judging from the cost involved it is much more than just moving the fence. There were a lot of head honchos involved including a Govt Minister, head of AFL and our CEO and President. I would have liked a bit more detail but happy to wait on what our Board have to say. We are on the rise and need to show a “Steely” calm that is more befitting of a Club on the rise.

Go DEES. !!!!!

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