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Social Clubs still work for all sorts of ethnic goups, look at the Venuto Club Bulleen. Successful venues are far removed from the old image of boozy blokes on a match day. In truth, even in the day they made most of their revenue from function booking and were a Community asset. People wanting to come and look at trophies and museum pieces were always a  minority. Any half decent marketing/catering dept would be able to have a high occupancy rate for dining/function rooms in a modern venue. Think community, community, community to access Government funds.

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The druggies have supposed fantastic facilities out at Tullamarine with 2 MCG & Docklands Ovals. Look how good that has turned out for them. The Tiggies on the other hand are squeezed into a

fwiw, max in a recent interview talked about what a difference training at casey over gosch's has made to setting up defensive structures the players previously 'felt' that they were set up okay

Our new president has close links with govt, VicSport, Tennis Australia and the Tennis Centre Upgrade committee. If only she could convince the govt to include elite indoor training facilities in the

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2 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

Social Clubs still work for all sorts of ethnic goups, look at the Venuto Club Bulleen. Successful venues are far removed from the old image of boozy blokes on a match day. In truth, even in the day they made most of their revenue from function booking and were a Community asset. People wanting to come and look at trophies and museum pieces were always a  minority. Any half decent marketing/catering dept would be able to have a high occupancy rate for dining/function rooms in a modern venue. Think community, community, community to access Government funds.

This is it exactly imo, Hff.

And why Gosch's can work for us.   Because of the stations proximity,  and with the  'G'.

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3 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

Social Clubs still work for all sorts of ethnic goups, look at the Venuto Club Bulleen. Successful venues are far removed from the old image of boozy blokes on a match day. In truth, even in the day they made most of their revenue from function booking and were a Community asset. People wanting to come and look at trophies and museum pieces were always a  minority. Any half decent marketing/catering dept would be able to have a high occupancy rate for dining/function rooms in a modern venue. Think community, community, community to access Government funds.

If they can make it work great. It's a "nice to have" though, main thing we need is facilities for players and staff

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3 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

Social Clubs still work for all sorts of ethnic goups, look at the Venuto Club Bulleen. Successful venues are far removed from the old image of boozy blokes on a match day. In truth, even in the day they made most of their revenue from function booking and were a Community asset. People wanting to come and look at trophies and museum pieces were always a  minority. Any half decent marketing/catering dept would be able to have a high occupancy rate for dining/function rooms in a modern venue. Think community, community, community to access Government funds.

Venuto Club has 90 pokies sucking about $7mill per year away from the community. 

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10 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Venuto Club has 90 pokies sucking about $7mill per year away from the community. 

Fair point MS, I am not an advocate of pokies.  My main point is it needs to be a Community venue, does not have to be large but must have modern facilities that are in demand by the community. Otherwise I do not think you will find any politician of any persuasion supporting a footy only project.

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Priorities:

1. MCG sized training ground with good surface. Another oval/space nearby for breakout groups.

2. Modern gym, pool to AFL standard. Preferably open indoor training space too. 

3. Admin centre in same place as above two.

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10. Social club/bar.

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No doubt with covid 19 our training home base will be impacted due to funding by both gvt & club. Going forward this should be explored as the fisherman’s bend development will see another 20k population in the next decade or two. Ground needs development, club has some  theme song, very close to Mcg, much easier for members to get into vs current aami park & demon shop...

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On 5/29/2020 at 8:50 AM, Moonshadow said:

Priorities:

1. MCG sized training ground with good surface. Another oval/space nearby for breakout groups.

2. Modern gym, pool to AFL standard. Preferably open indoor training space too. 

3. Admin centre in same place as above two.

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10. Social club/bar.

Almost exactly right Mr. Shadow. I would have it at 20.

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Blues to press ahead with redevelopment, even in  CoVid19  financial times.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/442017/blues-set-to-press-ahead-with-ikon-park-redevelopment

 

The big clubs take the risks... and bank on their support base to get them thru,  +  with pressured help from the AFL.

That's how they get Big, and how they stay big.    They take the chances,n for the things they want.  Be it players or club developments. 

They are Not Afraid to take financial risks, even when in financial situations.  They DARE to Win.    and I can't stand them.

 

If you give supporters the function areas they would like,  they,  those who would like to be out of the house,  will attend,  and spend their money in support of the club.  Even for Weddings, Funerals,  Interstate games,  the Bluey,  Board meetings,  AGM's,  etc.

 

Just because many rusted-ons here,  would not go to these equal status events;  many would, and many more  'yet to become demons',  would also like the connection to this club,  such a facility would allow us.

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1 minute ago, george_on_the_outer said:

It is easy for Carlton to “take risks” when they have already received $35M from state and federal governments for their redevelopment at Princes park!

 

Maybe, but George do you know how hard Carlton have fought to remain and prosper at Princess park despite continual resident objections for the past 40 plus years. The Princess park residents make the Jolimont residents seem like an amicable bunch.

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12 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

It is easy for Carlton to “take risks” when they have already received $35M from state and federal governments for their redevelopment at Princes park!

 

This is the whole point goto.  the government's  didn't just throw the money at them...  They had to apply.  They had to Seek,  and to Desire,  and to take the Chances required, to Get It Done.

 

That's the difference of mindset,  between the clubs.

 

One club has its umbilical cord still intact.

The other club is independent,  and has had to  'grow-some'  to survive,  and survive it does,  very well,  as an independent club.

 

Guts,  is whats needed.

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14 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Maybe, but George do you know how hard Carlton have fought to remain and prosper at Princess park despite continual resident objections for the past 40 plus years. The Princess park residents make the Jolimont residents seem like an amicable bunch.

And they don't even have a Railway Station,  linking the Melbourne CBD to all the East and Sth East suburbs,  right on their potential doorstep.

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