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10 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

If organisations can’t cop criticism ( even it’s unreasonable) then said organisations are [censored]

Maybe that is a truism.   But is there any evidence that the MFC can't cop criticism?

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18 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Glass half-full?   Glass half-empty? 

I'm more of a realist and recognise that, sooner or later, somebody will have to wash that bloody glass.

Whether it is half full or half empty, there won't ever be enough by the end of the day.

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2 hours ago, inanunda said:

I would hate to be someone from the MFC reading this forum and what has been spoken about since the end of the season.  

For far too long we have been accused of being a club that sits on it's hands, does nothing aggressive during trade time and gets bent over at the trade table.

Yet since the end of the 2019 '[censored]' season, the club has brought in Richardson, Burgess, Brukner, the dude from the Dolphins, outside run in Tomlinson and Langdon, took a risk on Bennell, invited a semi-proven forward in Mitch Brown to the club, shifted their position in this years' draft considerably for the positive and yet, you STILL have the nerve to bag the club for what they are not doing. Bloody hell!

I am pumped to see the club take chances, admit fault, bring in a fresh perspective and potentially get us back to finals in 2020.  There is no way in hell you would cop the level of criticism and negativity in your role as this club does.  Sometime it feels like a whingefest and sooky la-la session and it's time to look at the glass half full.  Because I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that not if but when we rise back up the ladder all you backstabbers will the first one to start back-patting like the tweed coated MCC do!

Cheers, but I prefer to be a realist

Another season like 2019 and Goodwin is gone and we are back to square one

I do love the Burgess signing and the punt on Bennell

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The tone and level of expression in a post is more a reflection of the writer than their intended target I think. I've seen many a scathing comment and thought, gee I wonder what's upset them enough to write that. 

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A problem with Demonland (and society) is that often people think down binary lines.  The OP is a classic example.

You are either a sycophant or as the OP puts it a "backstabber".

It is possible that by applying critical thinking to matters of the MFC you can appreciate some of the good things about the club and recognise the not so.

 

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3 hours ago, kev martin said:

By the way, I am in a camp of no glass. Really arn't too concerned about the win/loss position, prefer the journey. Found us being in a final series quite stressful anyway. The home and away games not as much invested. I like uncrowded games and enjoy watching the opponents game as well.

I too find the finals stressful but I prefer that to being embarrassed every other week/year.
I want us to draw crowds as that means we are playing entertaining footy, and I also find empty stadiums embarrassing.
And no kid that dreams of playing AFL football dreams of playing at empty grounds which is why we'll never be a "destination club" if we can't reliably draw a crowd.
I fear losing Anzac eve, the QB and the revenue for the club and exposure for sponsors if we can't pull our sheet together ..... Quickly.
We need to learn to be successful and sustain it or slowly die on the vine.
And if the past 50yrs is anything to go by, I have zero confidence we can do it.
But I have all the confidence that if we do manage some success we'll somehow find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot and blow it.
Cause that's how we roll.

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5 hours ago, inanunda said:

I would hate to be someone from the MFC reading this forum and what has been spoken about since the end of the season.  

For far too long we have been accused of being a club that sits on it's hands, does nothing aggressive during trade time and gets bent over at the trade table.

Yet since the end of the 2019 '[censored]' season, the club has brought in Richardson, Burgess, Brukner, the dude from the Dolphins, outside run in Tomlinson and Langdon, took a risk on Bennell, invited a semi-proven forward in Mitch Brown to the club, shifted their position in this years' draft considerably for the positive and yet, you STILL have the nerve to bag the club for what they are not doing. Bloody hell!

I am pumped to see the club take chances, admit fault, bring in a fresh perspective and potentially get us back to finals in 2020.  There is no way in hell you would cop the level of criticism and negativity in your role as this club does.  Sometime it feels like a whingefest and sooky la-la session and it's time to look at the glass half full.  Because I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that not if but when we rise back up the ladder all you backstabbers will the first one to start back-patting like the tweed coated MCC do!

lol, yeah ok mate, thanks for pointing all that out, would never have known with out your brilliant post

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Demonland is a very good fan site IMO.

The mods do a great job. I find there are many views both positive, negative and neutral that are for the most part people engaging in a way that makes me want to come back and see what people are saying whether I agree with them or not. And chime in from time to time :)

The training reports are great. The insights from people in the know are worth coming here to check out. The game day posts from people having a vent or enjoying our wins adds a lot for me being a Dees supporter in Tasmania. I would far prefer this than watching a game on my own.

What I'm trying to say is my post is an example of why I don't think the OP (especially in the thread subject line) is correct.

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1 hour ago, Fork 'em said:

I too find the finals stressful but I prefer that to being embarrassed every other week/year.
And if the past 50yrs is anything to go by, I have zero confidence we can do it.

It has been embarrassing and I think that is why I am not too invested in winning.

Still holding hope that we can be a power team. I do enjoy watching us when we are having a good day. In some of our quarters in 2018 we were unstoppable as was some of our scoring in the time-on periods and times when we hit multiple goals without a reply.

Unfortunately we can't seem to muster consistency.

The excuses of being a young or building team is wearing thin. We have had decades of that.

Hope we develop some pride and figure out how to win, nether alone crush some teams.

We really do need to hurt some of the others and gain our place beyond being the laughing stock.

The oppositions supporters get angry and abusive if we beat their team. Which does shock me given our past 50 years of struggle and that generally we have been a "nice and fair" team to play. I think that's why I don't want to be too Ra Ra about winning. As the one eyed ones seem mad and have ruined some of my friends, my family and my experiences at the footy.    

Though in reality I would love to be one of the big kids on the block.

 

 

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7 hours ago, inanunda said:

I would hate to be someone from the MFC reading this forum and what has been spoken about since the end of the season.  

For far too long we have been accused of being a club that sits on it's hands, does nothing aggressive during trade time and gets bent over at the trade table.

Yet since the end of the 2019 '[censored]' season, the club has brought in Richardson, Burgess, Brukner, the dude from the Dolphins, outside run in Tomlinson and Langdon, took a risk on Bennell, invited a semi-proven forward in Mitch Brown to the club, shifted their position in this years' draft considerably for the positive and yet, you STILL have the nerve to bag the club for what they are not doing. Bloody hell!

I am pumped to see the club take chances, admit fault, bring in a fresh perspective and potentially get us back to finals in 2020.  There is no way in hell you would cop the level of criticism and negativity in your role as this club does.  Sometime it feels like a whingefest and sooky la-la session and it's time to look at the glass half full.  Because I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that not if but when we rise back up the ladder all you backstabbers will the first one to start back-patting like the tweed coated MCC do!

Yes, it is encouraging that the club is operating in a similar manner to any business hoping to improve itself. Yay. 


 

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Some of the relentless critics on here also expressed disgust with the clown who called out OMac at the members forum - recognising the fine line of public commentary. This is a useful site for venting frustration for many fans. I find most of it tedious, but I don't concern myself with what the MFC thinks about it and that we all ought to put on a public show of optimism. 

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What I wanted to point out is that no matter what this club does there seems to be a mentality of if it bleeds it leads within the forum.  I know the club has made errors on and off the field for a very long time but constantly bringing it up doesn't help anyone.  I can already see that no matter who we draft next week the knives will be out instead of celebrating the exciting additions to the MFC.

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8 hours ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

Have a hard look at yourself @inanunda

I agree 100% that I have had my say and I will not shy away from that. Good to see that you have picked out three posts out of my entire history to make a point. You could get a job with TMZ with that research ability.

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