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The Splitting of Pick 8


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4 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Adelaide likely to grab Stephens.  Dees would have a tough choice here. I’d prefer Kemp and Ash over Weightman

If that happens then Freo will take Ash. They need wingmen after losing Hill and Langdon

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

And we probably won't use Freo's 2020 pick 55-72

But we still effectively downgraded 26 to 28 in the trade.  Not wanting to make a big deal of it but some posters keep thinking 28 is a free hit.  It isn't.

It's Carlton's 4th. And it will likely be a lot higher than that. Everyone keeps talking about next year being a compromised draft due to Academy and Father sons. But that means a heap of later picks will be used as points. 

That 4th rounder will come in a fair bit imo. And we are much more likely to use it next year than we would pick 50 this year due to not having a first rounder.

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2 minutes ago, olisik said:

Can’t see Stephens passing Adelaide and Freo who just traded all there wingmen

Stephens still a chance to Sydney if they go for midfield class rather than Flanders, but I can absolutely see Adelaide going McAsey, they are in a full rebuild and need to get tall pillars. Then Freo will find it hard to go past Robertson as a Lachie Neale replacement and could be tempted by Serong or whoevers left from Ash/Young. They've got Henry coming after that who projects as wing as much as a forward and can move Brayshaw or Cerra outside.

 

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10 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Where do they see Jackson fitting in with Gawn? It seems they think he is coordinated enough to make it as a key forward. 

They see Jackson as a forward to start with, and actually as another onballer! At this tags they don’t see him as a ruck at all really, especially with Gawn there, he would just go in for a few minutes here and there.

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11 minutes ago, olisik said:

Can’t see Stephens passing Adelaide and Freo who just traded all there wingmen

I tend to agree, but I am just passing on what I have heard  around the traps.

but there are other needs for those clubs, so there is a belief that stephens may fall to us.

 

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This is now where we stand -

PRIMARY LIST

1. Oskar Baker 
2. Toby Bedford 
3. Angus Brayshaw 
4. Bayley Fritsch 
5. Max Gawn 
6. Mitch Hannan 
7. James Harmes 
8. Michael Hibberd 
9. Marty Hore 
10. Jayden Hunt 
11. Neville Jetta 
12. Nathan Jones 
13. James Jordan 
14. Kade Kolodjiashnij 
15. Ed Langdon 
16. Jake Lever 
17. Oscar McDonald 
18. Tom McDonald 
19. Steven May 
20. Jake Melksham 
21. Alex Neal-Bullen 
22. Aaron Nietschke 
23. Clayton Oliver 
24. Christian Petracca 
25. Harrison Petty 
26. Braydon Preuss 
27. Christian Salem 
28. Charlie Spargo 
29. Joel Smith 
30. Tom Sparrow 
31. Adam Tomlinson 
32. Aaron vandenBerg 
33. Jack Viney 
34. Josh Wagner 
35. Sam Weideman   
36. National Draft Pick 3
37. National Draft Pick 10
38. National Draft Pick 28
39. (Reserved for Rookie Upgrade or Harley Bennell)
40. (Reserved for Rookie Upgrade or Mitch Brown)

ROOKIE LIST: CATEGORY A

1. Kade Chandler 
2. Kyle Dunkley 
3. Jay Lockhart 
4. Corey Wagner  

ROOKIE LIST: CATEGORY B

1. Austin Bradtke 
 

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1 minute ago, Yokozuna said:

I tend to agree, but I am just passing on what I have heard  around the traps.

but there are other needs for those clubs, so there is a belief that stephens may fall to us.

 

Have you heard anything about the potential pick swap with Geelong?

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4 minutes ago, ben russell said:

Have you heard anything about the potential pick swap with Geelong?

Not yet, I will see what I can find out.

I do like the idea of it though!

I just know they believe Jackson could be an absolute star, And while they rate Young highly, they see Jackson has a bigger ceiling.

They also love Pickett and weightman and would love to get them both if possible, so I guess that could see the Geelong trade happen.

If it doesn’t, we get someone at 10 who could be any of stephens, serong, ash possibly.

 

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I hate to say it, but I think we have been fairly set on Weightman all along, and we know we can get him 100% at 10. IMO this explains todays trade too. We tried to trade up for Butters last year too (lucky we didn't as it would have cost us 3), and since then we have been after a small forward of note.

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39 minutes ago, Yokozuna said:

This swap has been in the pipeline for a while.

We will pick Jackson, then whoever slides to 10 (I don’t think it is weightman who they want), have heard it may be Stephens, and they are wanting Pickett, they really, really like him.

I would suggest we may need to do something to get pick 28 a bit lower to get Pickett though.

Also heard De Koning has been spoken about. Super tall but plays tall back at the moment but has played as an onballer in juniors!

On baller as in ruckman?

De Koning was played as a tall HB (imho one of the top performers in this role), in his four matches during the carnival.

A mark and kick type player, quite accurate by foot within his comfort zone/range (about 40 meters tops) and with his height he seems more destined to a ruck role if he can make the step up to AFL.

More than likely gone a tad earlier than 28.

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2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Doubt it, but if we do something like 10 and 28 for 14 and 17 then he might be a chance.

i am not sure what i think of that deal. i feel like the talent in this draft drops off a bit outside of the top 12 or so. i reckon we should grab Jackson or Young at 3   one of Ash/Stephens/Serong at 10 and best avaliable at 28 

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13 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

This is now where we stand -

PRIMARY LIST

1. Oskar Baker 
2. Toby Bedford 
3. Angus Brayshaw 
4. Bayley Fritsch 
5. Max Gawn 
6. Mitch Hannan 
7. James Harmes 
8. Michael Hibberd 
9. Marty Hore 
10. Jayden Hunt 
11. Neville Jetta 
12. Nathan Jones 
13. James Jordan 
14. Kade Kolodjiashnij 
15. Ed Langdon 
16. Jake Lever 
17. Oscar McDonald 
18. Tom McDonald 
19. Steven May 
20. Jake Melksham 
21. Alex Neal-Bullen 
22. Aaron Nietschke 
23. Clayton Oliver 
24. Christian Petracca 
25. Harrison Petty 
26. Braydon Preuss 
27. Christian Salem 
28. Charlie Spargo 
29. Joel Smith 
30. Tom Sparrow 
31. Adam Tomlinson 
32. Aaron vandenBerg 
33. Jack Viney 
34. Josh Wagner 
35. Sam Weideman   
36. National Draft Pick 3
37. National Draft Pick 10
38. National Draft Pick 28
39. (Reserved for Rookie Upgrade or Harley Bennell)
40. (Reserved for Rookie Upgrade or Mitch Brown)

ROOKIE LIST: CATEGORY A

1. Kade Chandler 
2. Kyle Dunkley 
3. Jay Lockhart 
4. Corey Wagner  

ROOKIE LIST: CATEGORY B

1. Austin Bradtke 
 

Primary list can be just 38. Bennell and Brown can go onto rookie list from SSD so we have 6 rookies. Healthy salary cap next year. 

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Just now, Patches O’houlihan said:

i am not sure what i think of that deal. i feel like the talent in this draft drops off a bit outside of the top 12 or so. i reckon we should grab Jackson or Young at 3   one of Ash/Stephens/Serong at 10 and best avaliable at 28 

I agree, but if we want Pickett (and I have no idea if we do), then it's too early at 10 and probably too late at 28.

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Pick 8 for pick 10 and 28. Fascinating.

Worth noting that having pick 28 also means me have the realistic possibility of live pick trading on the second night of the draft. After all the fuss of the first round is done and everyone has a day to evaluate.

I.e Pick 28 and 2020 third rounder for 23 to grab a slider (many eyes here are on Pickett of course) we have our eye on.  All by prior understanding with a club that isn't interested in that particular player.  A pre-agreed 'if this situation arises, then' deal.

But the value that is being placed on just a couple of slots up the draft this year is astonishing.  Heavily influenced by the mis-shapen bureaucracy of academy and FS and so forth, but what a weird ride it has been already.

Adding more on the bureaucracy note - 2020 draft is going to be all about 'draft point value' for the grand haul of F/S, Academy etc so that third round will be wanted, as will even the 2020 fourth rounder we just picked up.

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1 minute ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

i am not sure what i think of that deal. i feel like the talent in this draft drops off a bit outside of the top 12 or so. i reckon we should grab Jackson or Young at 3   one of Ash/Stephens/Serong at 10 and best avaliable at 28 

That's my gut instinct as well, glad I'm not deciding and get to watch on with interest on draft night. 

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6 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

On baller as in ruckman?

De Koning was played as a tall HB (imho one of the top performers in this role), in his four matches during the carnival.

A mark and kick type player, quite accurate by foot within his comfort zone/range (about 40 meters tops) and with his height he seems more destined to a ruck role if he can make the step up to AFL.

More than likely gone a tad earlier than 28.

No, de koning actually played as an onballer in juniors. Ha splayed everywhere throughout his junior time, but was played key back due to height as he shot up to over 200cm

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12 minutes ago, Yokozuna said:

No, de koning actually played as an onballer in juniors. Ha splayed everywhere throughout his junior time, but was played key back due to height as he shot up to over 200cm

You aren't suggesting he might be played as an on baller now though surely.

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21 minutes ago, It's Time said:

Primary list can be just 38. Bennell and Brown can go onto rookie list from SSD so we have 6 rookies. Healthy salary cap next year. 

Was mentioned in the articles about Brown training with us that he would be a rookie if we took him.

 

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