Jump to content

Posting Unsubstantiated Rumours on this Website is Strictly Forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Liam Henry (Drafted by Fremantle)


olisik

Recommended Posts

We should bid pick 3 on this kid. As we rate picks 3-7 equally it makes sense to.

A. Henry is better then Weightman

B. It could force Freo to chew up pick 7 on a match which would bring our pick 8 forward by 1 (Possibly resulting in a pick 7 for Serong instead of Weightman)

C. A Henry/Stephens combo looks juicer then a Young/Weightman Combo

D. Will stop risk of Freo and GWS pick parking around us

E. Freo May [censored] themselves when we start giving Henry attention and offer 7/10 for 3 and 2020 2nd rounder.

If we see the talent difference between Henry to Weightman as being greater then the difference between Young and Stephens then it’s a no brainer.

Best Small forward and Winger in the draft to the Dees, yes please. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Demonland changed the title to The Liam Henry Thread

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

What is wrong with taking Ash/Young/Serong at three and then Weightman at pick 8? Why fuss with the above? If that is what we want then bidding on Henry doesn't change that. 

Henry > Weightman

Best small forward in the draft, think Sonny Walters.

Edited by olisik
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

Is he good enough to bid on at pick 3? If Freo don't match we get the draft best small forward, if they do then we take who we want at 4 and continue as per before but with Freo's pick 7 eaten up.

In isolation: No

As part of an overall package after both picks: Yes

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


54 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

Is he good enough to bid on at pick 3? If Freo don't match we get the draft best small forward, if they do then we take who we want at 4 and continue as per before but with Freo's pick 7 eaten up.

Well worked out & like this scenario.

I'd take Henry at 3, if not then we get Young for the first dance and bugger up Freo, with a better chance at Kemp at 8

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Best available at 3.

If it's Henry, he should be selected. I'd be wrapped if we got him if he's considered 3rd best. If not, no point risking a top 3 pick on the hope our bid is matched. Same with Green

 

Even if it isn’t matched, we get best small forward in the draft and can take a Stephens or Kemp at 8 to balance it out. Need to look at it holisticly and not just the pick in isolation.

Edited by olisik
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, olisik said:

Even if it isn’t matched, we get best small forward in the draft and can take a Stephens or Kemp at 8 to balance it out. Need to look at it holisticly and not just the pick in isolation.

The club will take best available at that pick.

If they selected Henry at 3 I hope it would because he's the best draftee at 3. That he is a small forward of which we have a need is a bonus. We also need a running half back with sublime vision and foot skills (Young). A burst midfielder with speed comparable to Dangerfield would be handy too (Kemp)

Personally, ATM i don't think Henry is the 3rd best in the draft. He's exciting and looks promising, though

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Maybe we bid on him with 8?  Given the talent thereabouts, we get exactly who we want with essentially the first live pick of the draft, then see what plays out.  We ca take our time now to get that first pick right, then have a plan for what emerges at 8.  After that, we can go to the pub.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

No we trade 3 for GWS's 6 (plus the best deal we can get e.g. next year's first rounder and anything else).

We then use 6 (and whatever else from received from GWS) to trade for Freo's 7 and 10.  Then we pick the three kids we want with picks 7, 8 and 10 - we miss a couple but there doesn't seem a clear consensus on the order of them in any case.  

Worst case scenario if GWS or Freo don't trade and don't match our bid, we end up with Greene and/or Henry - very unlikely and not a bad outcome in anycase!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, deelusions from afar said:

No we trade 3 for GWS's 6 (plus the best deal we can get e.g. next year's first rounder and anything else).

We then use 6 (and whatever else from received from GWS) to trade for Freo's 7 and 10.  Then we pick the three kids we want with picks 7, 8 and 10 - we miss a couple but there doesn't seem a clear consensus on the order of them in any case.  

Worst case scenario if GWS or Freo don't trade and don't match our bid, we end up with Greene and/or Henry - very unlikely and not a bad outcome in anycase!

Not behd!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, olisik said:

We should bid pick 3 on this kid. As we rate picks 3-7 equally it makes sense to.

A. Henry is better then Weightman

B. It could force Freo to chew up pick 7 on a match which would bring our pick 8 forward by 1 (Possibly resulting in a pick 7 for Serong instead of Weightman)

C. A Henry/Stephens combo looks juicer then a Young/Weightman Combo

D. Will stop risk of Freo and GWS pick parking around us

E. Freo May [censored] themselves when we start giving Henry attention and offer 7/10 for 3 and 2020 2nd rounder.

If we see the talent difference between Henry to Weightman as being greater then the difference between Young and Stephens then it’s a no brainer.

Best Small forward and Winger in the draft to the Dees, yes please. 

I like your theory here as Sydney will definitely bid for Green at 5.  
 

Edited by Demons11
Link to comment
Share on other sites


8 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Maybe we bid on him with 8?  Given the talent thereabouts, we get exactly who we want with essentially the first live pick of the draft, then see what plays out.  We ca take our time now to get that first pick right, then have a plan for what emerges at 8.  After that, we can go to the pub.

My thinking for bidding on him with 3, rather then 8, is that Freo may decide they don't want to match. I think they definitely match at 8.

It only works if a) we really, really want him and b) Freo (Bell) decide to take a stand and don't pick him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Good Lord George said:

My thinking for bidding on him with 3, rather then 8, is that Freo may decide they don't want to match. I think they definitely match at 8.

It only works if a) we really, really want him and b) Freo (Bell) decide to take a stand and don't pick him.

That’s fine is they don’t match. We get best small forward in the draft and our pick 8 moves up one place to help us balance it out with Kemp or Stephens.

 

Net result is we get the best small forward instead of Weightman.

Edited by olisik
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, olisik said:

Able to give the gist of the article? It’s behind a pay wall. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/28/2019 at 7:42 PM, Pates said:

Able to give the gist of the article? It’s behind a pay wall. 

Fremantle are bracing for a top-10 bid on academy prospect Liam Henry as the exciting forward prepares for follow-up interviews ahead of next month’s national draft.

The Dockers yesterday finished a three-day conference on Victoria’s Mornington Peninsula to debrief on the trade period and prepare for the draft, with the Henry bid shaping as a key to their fortunes.

Henry, who met all clubs at the AFL combine earlier this month, is due to meet Carlton again next month and has completed follow-up meetings with most other clubs with top-10 selections.

The Dockers hold selections seven and 10 in next month’s national draft and want to snare Henry with later picks, given they have the right to match any rival bids on their Next Generation Academy player.

But industry sources suggested the Dockers were expecting an early bid on the forward.

A rival recruiting manager said most clubs rated Henry in the eight-to-12 range, with multiple clubs in the top 10 considering calling Henry’s name early at the November 27-28 draft.

Melbourne (picks three and eight) and Carlton (pick nine) are the clubs considered most likely to bid on Henry.

Henry, who was born in Derby, sustained a dislocated knee cap in August, preventing him from making his senior debut for Claremont. He recovered from a minor knee setback early in the season to star for WA in their championship-winning under-18 team.

Football manager Peter Bell said this month that the Dockers were already fielding calls to swap draft picks as clubs position themselves around academy bids.

“We’ll look at everything,” he said. “We’ve got the flexibility to do that with the draft picks we have.”

The Dockers also have a future first-round pick and two 2020 second-round selections they can use in swapping picks ahead of, or during, the November draft

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    BINARY by Whispering Jack 

    This week Melbourne takes on Hawthorn hot on the heels of a six-day break after its encouraging response to a disappointing season opener in steamy Sydney. The Hawks were disappointingly wasteful last week, but they also failed to bring sufficient pressure into the contest and, as a consequence, the Bombers scored goals at will. Against the Demons, a repeat would be fatal. The Hawks are still in the rebuilding phase and need everything to go right against Melbourne which is gradually b

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 1

    TRAINING: Tuesday 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations. KEV MARTIN'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Windy, even the Yarra has waves, warm and humid. They are doing plenty of warm ups, then a game of soccer, now run throughs. I think keeping it simple. May, ANB, Hore, Max. TMac, Billings, Sestan, on modified programs.  BBB, Spargs, Turner, McAdam (own program, talking to Whe

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    DEE-RUBBING by George on the Outer

    For the second week in a row, the Demons had to endure some particularly oppressive match conditions — this time, playing in 30 degree temperatures at the MCG, following the humid sticky Sydney atmosphere of last week.   The warmer conditions didn’t seem to worry the Dee’s since the ball was so much easier to handle, and handle it with surety they did in handing out a 45 point drubbing to the much fancied Western Bulldogs.   After a slow start that saw the Dogs out to

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    PREGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons will return to the MCG next week to face the Hawks before 2 weeks on the road in Adelaide in the lead up to Gather Round. Who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 160

    PODCAST: Rd 01 vs Western Bulldogs

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 18th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG over the Bulldogs in the Round 01. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 65

    POSTGAME: Rd 01 vs Western Bulldogs

    The Demons finally open their account in the 2024 Premiership Season with a 45 point win over the Western Bulldogs at the Home of Football the MCG.   

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 445

    VOTES: Rd 01 vs Western Bulldogs

    Last week Jack Viney polled the maximum number of votes to lead the Demonland Player of the Year Award. Steven May and rookie Blake Howes are equal second. Your votes for the win over the Bulldogs. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 75

    GAMEDAY: Rd 01 vs Western Bulldogs

    On the back of a disappointing Opening Round loss to the Swans in Sydney the Demons return to the MCG today to take on the the Western Bulldogs in a bid to even the ledger early in the 2024 season.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 467

    TRAINING: Saturday 16th March 2023

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs. KEV MARTIN'S CAPTAIN'S RUN OBSERVATIONS Rehab  is out early. A beautiful Saturday morning, though plenty of dew on the paddock  Verrall doing hard sprints along the boundary.  McAdam individual program and has started, ball work, change of direction drills,

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 02

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 02 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 02

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 01 vs Western Bulldogs

    The boys analysed the dismantling of the Western Bulldogs praising the masterful performance of Clayton Oliver, the dominance of Max Gawn and the defence and rebound of Steven May ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 19

  • Match Report      

    DEE-RUBBING by George on the Outer

    For the second week in a row, the Demons had to endure some particularly oppressive match conditions — this time, playing in 30 degree temperatures at the MCG, following the humid sticky Sydney atmosphere of last week ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 17

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Round 01 vs Western Bulldogs

    TThe Demons finally open their account in the 2024 Premiership Season with a 45 point win over the Western Bulldogs at the Home of Football the MCG ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 17

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Round 01 vs Western Bulldogs

    Last week Jack Viney polled the maximum number of votes to lead the Demonland Player of the Year Award. Steven May and rookie Blake Howes are equal second. Your votes for the win over the Bulldogs. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 17

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons will return to the MCG next week to face the Hawks before 2 weeks on the road in Adelaide in the lead up to Gather Round. Who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 01 vs Western Bulldogs

    On the back of a disappointing Opening Round loss to the Swans in Sydney the Demons return to the MCG today to take on the the Western Bulldogs in a bid to even the ledger early in the 2024 season ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 17

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Match Preview      

    CROSSING THE PICKETT LINE by The Oracle

    Melbourne’s performance in losing its Round Zero contest in Sydney has certainly caused the club, the coach and the players to come firmly under the watchful eye of the football world and exposed all of its aspects to a microscopic lens ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 14

  • Training  

    Monday, 11th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin braved the scorching heat on a public holiday to bring you the following observations from Training ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 11

  • Preseason Training  

    Saturday, 2nd March 2024

    On the eve of the 2024 Season I ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for one of the final preseason training session before we head up to Sydney to take on the Swans. Here are my observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 02

  • Special Feature  

    SCRUTINY & RESILIENCE by Whispering Jack

    If the week when preseason training melds into scratch matches with other clubs, is the first marker for the beginning of a new season, then this has certainly been a torrid opener for the Melbourne Football Club in its campaign to remain a leading AFL premiership contender in 2024 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 24

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 02

       vs   

    Saturday 23rd March 2024
    @ 04:35pm (MCG)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Oliver Sestan Concussion 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 2 Weeks
    Daniel Turner Hip 5-6 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 8 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring TBC
    Jake Melksham ACL TBC
    Charlie Spargo Achilles TBC
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Steven May 25
    2 Jack Viney 20
    3 Clayton Oliver 18
    4 Max Gawn 11
    5 Jack Billings 10
    5 Blake Howes 10
    7 Christian Petracca 9
    7 Christian Salem 9
    9 Bayley Fritsch 4
    9 Judd McVee 4

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...