Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Poll: Who do you want with our first two picks?


furious d

Who do you want with picks 3?  

349 members have voted

  1. 1. Whose name do you want JT to call with picks 3 and 8?


This poll is closed to new votes

  • Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.
  • Poll closed on 27/11/19 at 08:00


Recommended Posts

On 10/19/2019 at 5:39 PM, furious d said:

If I've set it up right you can make multiple selections but please limit your choices to 2 for obvious reasons. It's up to you how you base your vote, either your dream combination or who you think we'll pick.

I voted Serong and Stephens but I've changed my mind several times and probably will again. I think Serong would be a walk up start as a small forward in our 22. According to reports he's strong overhead, good on the ground and loves a tackle and a goal. He could also provide a midfield rotation with time. Stevens provides the class and run we desperately need to develop to hopefully make Tomlinson redundant on the wing.

Would be very happy with Young or Kemp as well. If we take any body but Serong at 3 I could live with Weightman at 8 if the others are gone. I like Flanders as well but worry he's too similar to Petracca, if he were still there at 8 it would be tempting. 

 

I'd like to get picks 7, 8, 14, & 24.

And in so doing try to get Ash, Stephens, Weightman, and Dylan Williams.

https://draftprospects.prod.afl/prospect/1009253

https://draftprospects.prod.afl/prospect/1004848

https://draftprospects.prod.afl/prospect/1011803

https://draftprospects.prod.afl/prospect/1009195

That gets us plenty of leg speed, skills, agile stepping through traffic,  and X factor.

 

Also, Callum Jamieson from WA,  might be just as good a pickup as Luke Jackson,  but at a later draft spot.

https://draftprospects.prod.afl/prospect/1011243

Edited by MyFavouriteMartian
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I suppose that after the last two or three seasons when the club spurned the upper reaches of the draft, I haven’t delved as deeply into the draft pool as in the past. I taped the games on Foxtel and watched a limited number of highlight reels which, because of their nature, don’t excite me all that much.

I admit that I did watch the Dylan Stephens’ highlights which impressed me and, if available and picked at #10, I wouldn’t be upset. I’ve only glimpsed at Luke Jackson and Brodie Kemp’s highlights, remember Rowell, Anderson and Young from the Australia v Casey game and watched the NAB Boys League Grand Final. 
 
So now that the club’s draft position has been clarified and we look like having two picks in the top ten and one close to the middle of the second round, I’ve decided to look more closely at the footage available of the real national championship games to get a feel for those touted to come to us in the draft.
 
I have started with the Round 2 game between Vic Country and Vic Metro shown on Foxtel in early June. The game featured the now Gold Coast bound pair of Matt Rowell and Noah Anderson who unsurprisingly were the best players for their team. The former stood out for his dominance in contested possessions - the latter for his classy clearance work and tackling. I don’t think I need say more other than that it’s a pity from our perspective that the AFL changed its tack and decided to go full on with draft assistance for the Suns after burying the Demons when they were just as, if not more, needy five or six years ago. Anderson would have been an ideal pick for us at 2 but that’s enough crying over spilt milk. 
 
Despite the fact that the two stars were in the Metro team, the Country boys edged in front just before half time and won an interesting contest by a couple of goals. Their best player was  Hayden Young playing off half back who won the possession tally (close to 30) and was excellent rebounding out of defence with his rapier like left foot and strong intercept marking. His teammate Lachie Ash, also impressed with his dash out of defence. Both are definite high end draft potential in the range of our selections. The other player who impressed me was Country midfielder Caleb Serong who also is a top 10 prospect who looks like he could also play as a small forward. Sam Flanders was also a solid contributor who took my eye a bit but I think he’s a bit too much like a number of our inside mids (I wouldn’t discount him but he might have to be in the Patrick Cripps class to sway our recruiters given who we have there).
 
Brodie Kemp also played in the match, mainly deep in defence and didn’t really stand out. He must have improved considerably in later games and before his ACL to have gained his current status. The Metro team had a solid key forward in Josh Smith who kicked a few goals in the first half but faded out later and, on reflection, I don’t think he’s in our top 30 range. 
 
I hope to catch up with a couple more games over the weekend and to see if I can work out why we seem so enamored about Luke Jackson ahead of Tom Green and whether Kemp should be in contention.
  • Like 8
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Now that Green is a realistic option at pick 3, he is my preference. 

If we land Green then my preference at pick 10 would be Young/Ash if still available or Kemp/Stephens if both are gone by then.

Taylor or Pickett with pick 28.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites


1 hour ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

If it were me choosing i think i'd be going 

Green at 3 if not Green, Jackson 

and hoping for Young at 10. if not Young - in order of preference - Ash, Stephens, Serong, Kemp

I actually think looking at the needs of those sides between our pick#3 & #10, one of those will be available at 10

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

For anyone who is interested, all champs games that weren't broadcast on Fox or AFL.com can be watched here:

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/national-championships/

And NAB League games can be watched here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVF9Aw4e89CY2u31_UkPCOA/videos

 

Edited by ChaserJ
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Foxfooty’s phantom has us passing on Kemp & Stephens to take Pickett at 11. Balmer states that the Dogs are red hot on Pickett at 13. Only pick trade I can see us doing is with Port if Stephens is there at 10 and Hawks show that they’re keen on him at p11.

Sticks in the craw a bit that we potentially had a play at Hayden Young if we held onto pick 8.

https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-draft-2019-afl-mock-draft-afl-phantom-draft-matt-balmer-draft-prospects-profiles-rankings/news-story/8112d07059324ce3be7497a4bc03e805?__twitter_impression=true

Edited by ChaserJ
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Foxfooty’s phantom has us passing on Kemp & Stephens to take Pickett at 11. Balmer states that the Dogs are red hot on Pickett at 13. Only pick trade I can see us doing is with Port if Stephens is there at 10 and Hawks show that they’re keen on him at p11.

Sticks in the craw a bit that we potentially had a play at Hayden Young if we held onto pick 8.

https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-draft-2019-afl-mock-draft-afl-phantom-draft-matt-balmer-draft-prospects-profiles-rankings/news-story/8112d07059324ce3be7497a4bc03e805?__twitter_impression=true

MFC trying to be a little bit too clever rather than just maximising the picks. feels like we're really rolling the dice on two guys when we could easily add a couple of absolute jets with much less risk attached to them.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

MFC trying to be a little bit too clever rather than just maximising the picks. feels like we're really rolling the dice on two guys when we could easily add a couple of absolute jets with much less risk attached to them.

Agree.  We need to use these picks strongly to get pace and footy skills into our transition footy.  That’s our key weaknesses. We need players to deliver the footy without killing it.  That’s apparently why Frosty was given the opportunity to go elsewhere.  How can we get skilful youngsters like Young, Stephens or Kemp onboard. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

My biggest supporter regret is still the loss of Liam Jurrah. I've always backed possibilities like Bennell and was disappointed we lost Frost. Because while winning is great, I still want some extra-natural excitement in watching my team.

I rate our list and don't think who we draft will be the key in delivering us flag. I support Taylor and Goodwin and absolutely adore Clarry. I also think draft picks should be considered like a non-refundable gift voucher - it doesn't matter if you spend the full value so long as you get what you want. 

I should be super-excited by the prospect of Jackson and Pickett. And yet, where this draft is heading leaves me feeling somewhat uneasy. I think it's because of how far the assessment of talent has shifted in the past two weeks - post-football. An outside top-ten prospect and a player slated for the 30s are now our potential pick 3 and what was pick 8. 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Foxfooty’s phantom has us passing on Kemp & Stephens to take Pickett at 11. Balmer states that the Dogs are red hot on Pickett at 13. Only pick trade I can see us doing is with Port if Stephens is there at 10 and Hawks show that they’re keen on him at p11.

Sticks in the craw a bit that we potentially had a play at Hayden Young if we held onto pick 8.

https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-draft-2019-afl-mock-draft-afl-phantom-draft-matt-balmer-draft-prospects-profiles-rankings/news-story/8112d07059324ce3be7497a4bc03e805?__twitter_impression=true

Maybe the GWS/Dogs/Hawks are all just bluffing so we'll leave the players they actually want alone...?

Edited by John Demonic
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Maybe the GWS/Dogs/Hawks are all just bluffing so we'll leave the players they actually want alone...?

Always a possibility.

Trying to be objective, I have always thought that drafting is a combination of getting in the best talent whilst building a list that gets you the chance to compete for a number of years.

We’ve had a few cracks at the top of the draft and have a number of ‘best talent available’ types who are predominantly inside mids.

Our list structure is a little bit unbalanced and is short of a key forward and a small who can both apply pressure, win the ball at ground level and take their goalscoring opportunities. It is a critical role and an area where we were absolutely horrible in last year.

Pickett is the one we’ve rounded on to play the role. We can’t pick swap with Port (as pick 10 started with them) and Dogs are a strong chance of taking Pickett with pick 13, so trading with Geelong may not be palatable.

I’m conflicted on taking him that high, but ultimately, if we kick the can too far down the track on drafting for the list, we could end up with none of our preferred options.

Jackson may be the best tall that we get access to for a number of years. We are going to pass on some good players, and that does make me uncomfortable, but I’m starting to see that it’s probably the right move at this point.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all.    On that rainy Friday night at the Adelaide Oval, Ken Hinkley’s young midfield secured much more than four points on offer. The victory over one of the big dogs of the competition after a succession of wins over some of its lesser lights gave his team respect and validation fo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Monday 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training. DEMON DYNASTY'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kade Chandler's left knee heavily strapped. BBB, Spargs & Jake Lever also in rehab group. Jake Bowey solo running separate kicking/sprint/agility drills. Super fine morning / early arvo at Gosch's for the boys to blow out some cobwebs. Choco initially had the light duties / rehab group

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter. By the time they worked out it was game on, their opponents from Box Hill had accumulated five goals and, if the game wasn’t over, it might as well have been. For a se

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head. The Demons have now won nine of their last ten encounters with the other result, a draw.     And like a fork, it was the multi-pronged options that Melbourne had all across the ground.  It certainly helped that Hawthorn

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 8

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in the Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 262

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 25th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Hawks in the Round 02. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 46

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 357

    GAMEDAY: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 437
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 03

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 03 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 03

  • Match Preview      

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 03

       vs   

    Saturday 30th March 2024
    @ 07:30pm (AO)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 2-4 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 7 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
    9 Jack Billings 10
    9 Alex Neal-Bullen 10

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...