Jon Ralph says Demons are effectively a basket-case team

[Sir Why You Little 34,402]

24 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

I actually feel its a large reason Daniher failed.
We needed a CHB real bad and Daniher could never find one when Troy passed.

I hope the Reverend gives his account of the Rollercoaster years as Coach in his new book. It always infuriated me and intrigued me at the same time!!

[DemonLad5 1,637]

Not sure why the arguments.

We were a basket case this year

[Dr.D 1,771]

yeah, why a thread for this? we are a basket case. Isn't that obvious?

And why does whispering jack think a journalists comments would provide players with motivation. Seriously?  ffs. So pre-season comes around and they're doing repeat 400's and the players are pushing themselves thinking 'jon ralph thinks we're a basket case'. come on, please. The players should already know that we are what we are and at this moment its the 17th best team in the comp. 

Edited October 12, 2019 by Dr.D

[sue 8,402]

Surely the only issue here is the conclusion that all is sweet in the AFL free agency because a couple of the poorer players from GF clubs transferred to badly performing clubs.  When Lynch transfers to the Suns, I'll believe it.  Oh wait...

Edited October 12, 2019 by sue

[spirit of norm smith 12,828]

We have seen basket case teams and this MFC team is not one. 

Gawn and Oliver are as good as any player.  
Next level NEEDS to step up. 

our next 10 can all improve and get fit and on the park  

May. Trac. Brayshaw. Harmes.  Viney. Lever. Melksham.  Tmcd.  Salem. Hibberd.

Jetta will be back and makes a difference.  

Langdon and Tomlinson already will make us better 

Weidemans development is crucial.  If he FINALLY fulfills his promise and lifts his hunger and intensity, we will look very dangerous again.  

Vandenberg KK Jsmith are all needing to overcome injury issues and will be huge bonus if fit. 

Hore has the making of a very solid midsize defender. His marking reminds me of a Harry Taylor type  

Fritsch showed again that he is a very skilled and dangerous forward. Definitely a best 18 player now. 

Can Hunt and Hannan develop any more.  Both very good and important as goalkickers.  

Baker cwagner Spargo need to show more in 2020 to stay on the list 

we can see potential already in Petty, Sparrow, Lockhart, Jordan and Chandler. Bedford and Bradtke are still raw but likely  

list cloggers like Jkh, JWagner, Omcd need to go

It’s plenty of sunshine ahead with the right coaching, intensity, game strategy and importantly fit and healthy playing list. 

[Fork 'em 6,505]

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I hope the Reverend gives his account of the Rollercoaster years as Coach in his new book. It always infuriated me and intrigued me at the same time!!

Always infuriated me.
Never intrigued me.

Reckon the side were just lazy.
Couldn't sustain the output required for long enough.

[Fork 'em 6,505]

2 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Only mv but not one of his better performances/movies.

C'mon man.
That movie's Gold.
His best performance by far ?

 

[Pennant St Dee 11,237]

2 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

To challenge my memory further. Did he spend time on Hird in that game PSD?

Scott Lucas from memory, but Hird did float forward so may have.

Matty Whelan knocked Hird out with a perfectly timed bump in that game.

[Fork 'em 6,505]

27 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Scott Lucas from memory, but Hird did float forward so may have.

Matty Whelan knocked Hird out with a perfectly timed bump in that game.

And that's all I need to post this ...... 
Turned the game at that very moment.
And this was in the 2004 Elim.

 

 

Edited October 12, 2019 by Fork 'em

[TGR 1,367]

3 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

You dunno whether you're coming or going.
Here's your quote from the Buckenara thread.
Make up your mind.

"Hey SK,
Most of us here thin we are going to rebound into finals in 2020.  Most, apart from Lyon, think this fall is an aberration.  Most, think that the club know where we are at."

If you think I think we are going to rebound, you are delusional.

 

I am not a part of ‘us’.  ‘Us’ have patiently clapped the inevitable path to failure for 50 plus years.

[TGR 1,367]

1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

yeah, why a thread for this? we are a basket case. Isn't that obvious?

And why does whispering jack think a journalists comments would provide players with motivation. Seriously?  ffs. So pre-season comes around and they're doing repeat 400's and the players are pushing themselves thinking 'jon ralph thinks we're a basket case'. come on, please. The players should already know that we are what we are and at this moment its the 17th best team in the comp. 

Another realist.

 

We are building up to double figures nationwide.

[Farmer 680]

6 hours ago, binman said:

The irony is that in fact we are far from a basket case. Our board is as stable and solid as it has been in decades. An internal review has seen significant change carried out in a professional, measured fashion, tge exec is solid as is  fd. No players wanted out. And one again mahoney has been a total pro at trade time and achieved most of its stated aims wirh a minimum of fuss.

You want a basket case look at the crows atm. Despite their wealth and resources they are a mess, with players wanting out, coach quitting before being pushed and key personnel being sacked during the trade period when they are trying to retain and attract players.

On a related  note where do the posters who so vociferously pushed the mfc in crisis line a couple of months back stand atm?.

You know the ones who warned of player dissatisfaction, players wanting out, (gleefully) supported false rumours about goody being sacked, jumped on Barrera silly comments about sliding doors and meetings wirh tge afl, pointed out the coaching and fd changes as evidence of crisis (whilst also arguing changes had to be made) and warned no players would want to come to us.

 

 

Exactly. This is the best post I have read for some time

[Demon Dynasty 15,149]

18 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

C'mon man.
That movie's Gold.
His best performance by far ?

 

[Uncle Fester 2,833]

Words will be eaten

[Fork 'em 6,505]

8 minutes ago, TGR said:

If you think I think we are going to rebound, you are delusional.

 

I am not a part of ‘us’.  ‘Us’ have patiently clapped the inevitable path to failure for 50 plus years.

I never said us ..... You did.
And unless they miraculously learn to kick, handball and mark during the off season we won't be rebounding far.

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[deebug 1,754]

4 hours ago, america de cali said:

MFC basket case

?

[pitmaster 3,048]

7 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

Doubt it will motivate. Different group of course but I well remember the first game after the tragic Troy Broadbridge death who I thought would end up a future Captain.Sadly we put up little effort in that game. And so the band plays on. The power Clubs dominate and we remain homeless, win less and unable to attract the best talent on and off the field. 

Whaaaaat?

What game was that?

I remember the Troy Broadbridge Memorial Game as a triumph over Essendon and I have checked the stats and memory serves me right: 15.13 103 to 8.9 57: Melbourne by almost eight goals.

You're a serial whinger SK and I am glad to have caught you out. Now I'll read the rest of the thread to see who else did not buy in.

Edited October 12, 2019 by pitmaster

[Sorry kids 635]

24 minutes ago, Farmer said:

Exactly. This is the best post I have read for some time

Positive proof this site is infiltrated by MFC employees and close associates. Gotta love the stable Board comment. That is a stable board that has overseen two decades of failure.

[The Swimming Dee 1,825]

37 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

And that's all I need to post this ...... 
Turned the game at that very moment.
And this was in the 2004 Elim.

 

 

How great was the finish by Trappa

[Sorry kids 635]

2 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Whaaaaat?

What game was that?

I remember the Troy Broadbridge Memorial Game as a triumph over Essendon and I have checked the stats and memory serves me right: 15.13 103 to 8.9 57: Melbourne by almost eight goals.

You're a serial whinger SK and I am glad to have caught you out. Now I'll read the rest of the thread to see who else did not buy in.

When you get around to reading the thread you will see I have made an unreserved apology so pull your head in pitdog. We all make mistakes. Have you never had a discussion with someone when their memory of something was wrong never had a pub discussion. bet you dont have the guts to talk like that in person.

[praha 10,267]

7 hours ago, binman said:

The irony is that in fact we are far from a basket case. Our board is as stable and solid as it has been in decades. An internal review has seen significant change carried out in a professional, measured fashion, tge exec is solid as is  fd. No players wanted out. And one again mahoney has been a total pro at trade time and achieved most of its stated aims wirh a minimum of fuss.

You want a basket case look at the crows atm. Despite their wealth and resources they are a mess, with players wanting out, coach quitting before being pushed and key personnel being sacked during the trade period when they are trying to retain and attract players.

On a related  note where do the posters who so vociferously pushed the mfc in crisis line a couple of months back stand atm?.

You know the ones who warned of player dissatisfaction, players wanting out, (gleefully) supported false rumours about goody being sacked, jumped on Barrera silly comments about sliding doors and meetings wirh tge afl, pointed out the coaching and fd changes as evidence of crisis (whilst also arguing changes had to be made) and warned no players would want to come to us.

 

 

You might be right bin, but what are you celebrating? The fact that those things haven't happened? We've done solidly this trade period but still lost Frost, player dissatisfaction was very real, ranging from issues with injury management, to game day strategy and coaching. Goodwin was also never really close to being sacked but the club has done it's due diligence and has been testing the wares for possible replacements and has been for about 12-14 weeks. 

It is a given that what's happened will happen, getting in free agents means [censored] all if you finish 17th. As does coaching changes. Erratic change in business management either goes extremely well or REALLY bad so there is no in between. Goodwin will either be guiding us to a strong finals showing, or his AFL coaching career is over. That is all that matters at this point.

Celebrating coaching changes at this point is depressing af because if we'd had a half decent season we wouldn't have needed to gut the fish.

There is a reason why these changes have happened. And it's not because of the "All is well, all is good" brigade. They've happened as a symptom of all of the predictions and rumours you mentioned. They are a direct result of it.

Edited October 12, 2019 by praha

[pitmaster 3,048]

2 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

When you get around to reading the thread you will see I have made an unreserved apology so pull your head in pitdog. We all make mistakes. Have you never had a discussion with someone when their memory of something was wrong never had a pub discussion. bet you dont have the guts to talk like that in person.

Hee Hee. Pitdog I like it.

Yes, I have read the thread and offer my gratitude to Bushie and the Pennant for pulling you up (a little more politely than me).

Yeah, I'd pull you up on that in person too, no real guts required. The "whaaaat?" I opened with was a genuine reaction because I remember going to that game fearful that, like so many milestone games, we'd stuff it up, fail to honour his memory. I walked away very proud of the way our boys stood up. (Only after writing the first half of my post did I visit the records to check the detail.)

My further comment goes to the fact that, to put it politely SK, you are a glass half empty kind of bloke. That's putting it kindly. If I wasn't being polite I'd say you are a fountain of negativity. Think about the mistake you made, or that your memory made. Maybe that glass half empty thing is invading memory too. Try to be open to some positivity because if footy does not give us hope it gives us nothing.

[Sorry kids 635]

1 minute ago, pitmaster said:

Hee Hee. Pitdog I like it.

Yes, I have read the thread and offer my gratitude to Bushie and the Pennant for pulling you up (a little more politely than me).

Yeah, I'd pull you up on that in person too, no real guts required. The "whaaaat?" I opened with was a genuine reaction because I remember going to that game fearful that, like so many milestone games, we'd stuff it up, fail to honour his memory. I walked away very proud of the way our boys stood up. (Only after writing the first half of my post did I visit the records to check the detail.)

My further comment goes to the fact that, to put it politely SK, you are a glass half empty kind of bloke. That's putting it kindly. If I wasn't being polite I'd say you are a fountain of negativity. Think about the mistake you made, or that your memory made. Maybe that glass half empty thing is invading memory too. Try to be open to some positivity because if footy does not give us hope it gives us nothing.

Thanks for the character advice. I will take it onboard and to prove it i have shortened your name to dog.

[pitmaster 3,048]

6 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Thanks for the character advice. I will take it onboard and to prove it i have shortened your name to dog.

Not taking it well, then? Never mind. I love dogs and I'll file that under 'Compliments (Unintended)'.

 

[Uncle Fester 2,833]

19 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Thanks for the character advice. I will take it onboard and to prove it i have shortened your name to dog.

You can call me Unc if you want.