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Frost's 2019 looks better than it really was because the side around him was so poor. He's not worth what he's asking for. The reports suggest Frost is asking for more money than we're prepared t

Can we accidentally give them O. McDonald instead?

No offence intended Lucifer but I get really frustrated with these kinds of glib disparaging statements about the club and its players. People seem to constantly misunderstand how much of skill execut

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2 minutes ago, bingers said:

From an insider at the Club ... Frostie's asking price is way too high!! Club not prepared to pay what he (or his manager) is asking. If he doesn't lower his expectations, the Club will let him go.

Not surprised, I heard him interview on SEN the other week and the guy has serious tickets on himseld.

Any other insider news?

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16 minutes ago, bingers said:

From an insider at the Club ... Frostie's asking price is way too high!! Club not prepared to pay what he (or his manager) is asking. If he doesn't lower his expectations, the Club will let him go.

If that's true would need to get his head out of his [censored]. If another club is willing to pay more good luck to them, if he wants to stay I wouldn't kick him out but I wouldn't jeopardise the salary cap paying a backup KPD stupid money.

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18 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Not surprised, I heard him interview on SEN the other week and the guy has serious tickets on himseld.

Any other insider news?

Yep, I read the article posted after that interview. He didn’t mind pumping up his own tyres, seriously overrating himself. 

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Hnmm managers the parasites that exist. Why cant players do the deals themselves?????

Well I reckon pay him another 100 -150 gs over what he gets now over 3-4 years

He has pace , iNTERCEPT ability and in a basket case of a Year ONE TRUE POSITIVE.....and  has earnt that

Christ watch us Blink.... Another club picks him up and he plays in A PREMIERSHIP!!

FFS

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5 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Yep, I read the article posted after that interview. He didn’t mind pumping up his own tyres, seriously overrating himself. 

Not as much as most on demonland or Facebook, the amount of people going on saying keep him at all cost, who wouldn't have a big head.

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Apparently he's the fastest at the club? The "face" of the club at GF?

OR 

was that his opportunity to increase his salary?

You know, win this Frosty and you go up a pay grade, lose and you don't?

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10 hours ago, bingers said:

From an insider at the Club ... Frostie's asking price is way too high!! Club not prepared to pay what he (or his manager) is asking. If he doesn't lower his expectations, the Club will let him go.

What’s he asking?

I would love to know what players are getting starting with Petracca, Viney and Hibberd.

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1 hour ago, dpositive said:

Apparently he's the fastest at the club? The "face" of the club at GF?

OR 

was that his opportunity to increase his salary?

You know, win this Frosty and you go up a pay grade, lose and you don't?

Surely... surely you aren't serious.

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14 hours ago, bingers said:

From an insider at the Club ... Frostie's asking price is way too high!! Club not prepared to pay what he (or his manager) is asking. If he doesn't lower his expectations, the Club will let him go.

You watch him get the money he wants, and become a Gun Player.

His Training has only just begun. Look at what Richmond have done with Soldo  He had never played the game until a few years ago  Frost is raw, yes, but his upside could be enormous 

Our List Management is a joke if we can’t pay Frost. Jesus he was the only one who had a red hot go all season. 

Meanwhile we pay Jones another years salary to jog around....

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You watch him get the money he wants, and become a Gun Player.

His Training has only just begun. Look at what Richmond have done with Soldo  He had never played the game until a few years ago  Frost is raw, yes, but his upside could be enormous 

Our List Management is a joke if we can’t pay Frost. Jesus he was the only one who had a red hot go all season. 

Meanwhile we pay Jones another years salary to jog around....

 

 

I'd move Jones on and trade Viney. But I also wouldn't keep Frost by overpaying him. Here's the problem. He's not very good.

The same posters that are bemoaning Tomlinson's seeming recruitment are the same ones championing Frost's re-signing. 

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1 minute ago, A F said:

I'd move Jones on and trade Viney. But I also wouldn't keep Frost by overpaying him. Here's the problem. He's not very good.

The same posters that are bemoaning Tomlinson's seeming recruitment are the same ones championing Frost's re-signing. 

I think Frost will be a Gun with the proper intensive training. 

It says more about our Football Department to me. Frost has the right attitude, the skills can be learnt from the right people 

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38 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I think Frost will be a Gun with the proper intensive training. 

It says more about our Football Department to me. Frost has the right attitude, the skills can be learnt from the right people 

Mate, if he hasn't learnt the skills and decision making during his 8 years on two AFL lists, when are we hoping he does learn? After he's signed a big chunky contract with us? That'd be right.

You're inconsistent, mate. You're constantly saying we're bent over and here you are, standing in a metaphorical park, waiting for a metaphorical rogering. 

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14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Not surprised, I heard him interview on SEN the other week and the guy has serious tickets on himseld.

Any other insider news?

Not trade related. But Brayshaw wasn't played in the middle all year because he had back issues. 

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55 minutes ago, bingers said:

Not trade related. But Brayshaw wasn't played in the middle all year because he had back issues. 

I think I've seen you post this before, mate. Are these back issues chronic or recoverable over this pre season?

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36 minutes ago, bingers said:

Not trade related. But Brayshaw wasn't played in the middle all year because he had back issues. 

Given we were out of finals contention after about round 6, why was he played "all year" then and not sent off for treatment?

 

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I think Frost will be a Gun with the proper intensive training. 

It says more about our Football Department to me. Frost has the right attitude, the skills can be learnt from the right people 

I reckon he doesn’t have the football smarts to become a gun, he’s a limited footballer. The best he’ll do is possibly play under a better coach and for a better team which may see him become less erratic. Time will tell.

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56 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I reckon he doesn’t have the football smarts to become a gun, he’s a limited footballer. The best he’ll do is possibly play under a better coach and for a better team which may see him become less erratic. Time will tell.

I think he's become less erratic at Melbourne, but he's just not a natural footballer and decision making is very hard to teach under pressure. Certainly, if he hasn't learnt it by now at 26, he won't.

I don't understand the hypocrisy from those who lament that Weideman is a bust as a 21 year old who hasn't dominated a game yet, while they applaud Frost (who has never dominated either) and is 26 years old.

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You watch him get the money he wants, and become a Gun Player.

His Training has only just begun. Look at what Richmond have done with Soldo  He had never played the game until a few years ago  Frost is raw, yes, but his upside could be enormous 

Our List Management is a joke if we can’t pay Frost. Jesus he was the only one who had a red hot go all season. 

Meanwhile we pay Jones another years salary to jog around....

 

 

Big difference between a 23 year old ruckman and a 26 year old key defender who played in junior squads and has spent a long time on lists at two different clubs.

The upside to Frost was this year. Defending improved, marking drastically improved, short kicking was better. Decision making still awful.

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Frost has been a good servant and has shown incremental improvement since we traded him in. 

That said, if we bring in Tomlinson as FA at no cost and trade out Frosty for a second rounder we’re in front. 

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

the skills can be learnt from the right people 

That's not right. You have talent, or you don't, you don't learn it. It can be honed, so as to be used in the best way, but you can't teach talent.

If you could, we would grab anyone and teach them how to be an AFL footballer.

 

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17 hours ago, bingers said:

From an insider at the Club ... Frostie's asking price is way too high!! Club not prepared to pay what he (or his manager) is asking. If he doesn't lower his expectations, the Club will let him go.

Maybe thats why Tigers are winning flags as players are more team orientated... 

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2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I think Frost will be a Gun with the proper intensive training. 

It says more about our Football Department to me. Frost has the right attitude, the skills can be learnt from the right people He has improved but consistently makes bad decisions with the ball in his hands if played to his limitations he'd turn it over less & be a better player.

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