Welcome to Demonland: Taj Woewodin

[xman97 108]

It's only 1 game, but I don't see how he gets drafted. Seems a bit one paced with no extra gears to go to when chasing etc. A few basic skill errors. Positives were, that he seems to get structurally in the right spot, with always looking at helping a team mate out in the defensive set up. Holds a nice width on the fat side wing. Seems to be always jogging or running where a lot of the guys stop to a walk when the ball leaves their area. There's not much X factor or anything about his game. But like I said from the top, this is 1 game. I haven't watched him before.

 

Lets back in JT and crew for the right call on him.

[Turner 1,482]

i think taj is one who will thrive more at afl level, he's a good kick and makes good decisions but at this level a lot of simple kicks and handballs are being missed which disrupts the ball movement and forces it into a contested game, appears to hold his width really well tho and on the mcg could be a real weapon

[Ouch! 2,034]

Taj was quiet in the second half, but the statisticians must have gone for a pie in that last q. 

Sheldrick's stats barely moved from the 23 or 25 they said he had at 3QT, and he apparently had 26 for the match, similarly I was fairly certain Taj had 15 at 3QT and then in the leading stats for the game he wasnt' even there.... yet they had another player with 14 as one of the leading players... Not that it makes much of a difference.

[Palace Dees 1,945]

2 minutes ago, xman97 said:

It's only 1 game, but I don't see how he gets drafted. Seems a bit one paced with no extra gears to go to when chasing etc. A few basic skill errors. Positives were, that he seems to get structurally in the right spot, with always looking at helping a team mate out in the defensive set up. Holds a nice width on the fat side wing. Seems to be always jogging or running where a lot of the guys stop to a walk when the ball leaves their area. There's not much X factor or anything about his game. But like I said from the top, this is 1 game. I haven't watched him before.

 

Lets back in JT and crew for the right call on him.

A very fair and accurate assessment on what I saw. Not writing him off as a footballer, but would be surprised if we picked him up this draft given our limited picks.

[boydie 653]

I assume he might be similar to the Kobe Farmer position. Won't gather much interest in the draft or father/son selection, get an invite to train on over summer and push for a rookie selection. Has the right attributes to get that position and a year at Casey would certainly help with the development and see what happens from there.

[Whispering_Jack 27,883]

14 hours ago, xman97 said:

It's only 1 game, but I don't see how he gets drafted. Seems a bit one paced with no extra gears to go to when chasing etc. A few basic skill errors. Positives were, that he seems to get structurally in the right spot, with always looking at helping a team mate out in the defensive set up. Holds a nice width on the fat side wing. Seems to be always jogging or running where a lot of the guys stop to a walk when the ball leaves their area. There's not much X factor or anything about his game. But like I said from the top, this is 1 game. I haven't watched him before.

 

Lets back in JT and crew for the right call on him.

At this level, Taj plays a solid but unspectacular game of football, accumulating possessions without doing anything that stands out. However, I think on the basis of his year’s work as a regular in his team’s best players at Colts level for East Fremantle and in his state level appearances with WA Under 19s, that he’ll probably take the last spot on our list. 

The players who impressed me were Angus Sheldrick who is the type of player Goody would like and Jack Williams who has hitherto presented himself as a potential key forward but also took a lot of the ruck work in this game. I’m not sure about the relative strength of the other rucks and he’s not tall enough at 195cm to be a regular ruckman at AFL level but, if he’s around at #17, he’d be worth a long hard look for his versatility as I believe he could play key forward or back. There are others worthy of consideration for #17 as well - Jacob Van Rooyen who didn’t play would be great at that pick. SA midfielder Matt Roberts was slow off the mark but nearly won the game for them in the end. I think he’ll go top 10. And there’s a lot to like about Jase Burgoyne who is a Port Adelaide father/son prospect.

[Demons11 6,404]

51 minutes ago, boydie said:

I assume he might be similar to the Kobe Farmer position. Won't gather much interest in the draft or father/son selection, get an invite to train on over summer and push for a rookie selection. Has the right attributes to get that position and a year at Casey would certainly help with the development and see what happens from there.

Where did Kobe end up playing this year? And any idea on how he went?

[Northern Summer 292]

I guess the question to ask here is, if his surname was not Woewodin, would anyone be taking any notice of him whatsoever? We've certainly moved beyond the point of getting blokes onto our list because of any perceived loyalty, such that we didn't keep Farmer's son, didn't draft Brett Lovett's son, and we let Billy Stretch go too without playing him much. From the sounds of it, he was only a late inclusion into the WA state team. If he gets drafted, particularly to us, that would be awesome and I totally trust our recruiting team who have performed second to none; however, it probably doesn't look overly likely.

[DeeSpencer 23,051]

28 minutes ago, Northern Summer said:

I guess the question to ask here is, if his surname was not Woewodin, would anyone be taking any notice of him whatsoever? We've certainly moved beyond the point of getting blokes onto our list because of any perceived loyalty, such that we didn't keep Farmer's son, didn't draft Brett Lovett's son, and we let Billy Stretch go too without playing him much. From the sounds of it, he was only a late inclusion into the WA state team. If he gets drafted, particularly to us, that would be awesome and I totally trust our recruiting team who have performed second to none; however, it probably doesn't look overly likely.

Captain of his colts team and school, strong form at colts level, solid performer at state level and added to the combine. He wouldn’t have a thread on demonland but I reckon he’s played well enough that every team has at least had a good look. I like the idea that worst case scenario is he gets to come over for a train on period. Wouldn’t be surprised if he was drafted even if he’s not a standout tho, teams like to take father sons with great work ethic. 

[xman97 108]

Just that changing of gears wasn’t there for me today. By that I mean, the intent to tackle when within 2 to 5 metres of an opponent. He seemed to keep the one pace. I want to see the intent, that competitive edge to run a player down. 
 

Another contest where he wasn’t quite running back with the flight as such, but kinda was. He could of gone a bit harder. It wasn’t a moment of crapping himself or anything bad like that. It just wasn’t that extra 5% effort to really make the contest harder for his opponent, and to obviously win the ball himself. 
 

Like my previous post stated after the game, there were a few positives also. But the type of negatives that he possessed today is leaning me towards not taking him in the draft. 
 

Hopefully he’s not always like that. You never know what niggles or injuries a player is taking into a game. 

Edited October 10, 2021 by xman97

[Redbeard 497]

17 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Where did Kobe end up playing this year? And any idea on how he went?

Looks like he played a few games for Swan Districts, not sure if he was injured or playing lower in the games he missed

[drdrake 3,035]

20 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Captain of his colts team and school, strong form at colts level, solid performer at state level and added to the combine. He wouldn’t have a thread on demonland but I reckon he’s played well enough that every team has at least had a good look. I like the idea that worst case scenario is he gets to come over for a train on period. Wouldn’t be surprised if he was drafted even if he’s not a standout tho, teams like to take father sons with great work ethic. 

I think he has always been borderline late pick or rookie pick, I don't think that will change.

[manny100 998]

Its probably not wise to judge on one game. WA Talent Manager Adam Jones in an Age article today described Woewodin as a " great free hit" for the Dees.

" He's not the quickest player, buy he's clean, skilful on both sides and can play multiple roles."

Woey is well regarded in Talent circles.  He has improved materially this year and often late developers are looked upon favourably.

Another player he says has improved well is Jason Cripps who came back this season from an ACL and played well despite no pre season and shin splints in his return from the ACL.  As a 199cm ruckman he has a fantastic skill set and can play ruck/forward.

 

 

[Redleg 37,441]

23 minutes ago, manny100 said:

Another player he says has improved well is Jason Cripps who came back this season from an ACL and played well despite no pre season and shin splints in his return from the ACL.  As a 199cm ruckman he has a fantastic skill set and can play ruck/forward.

 

 

We certainly need another ruck.

Edited October 12, 2021 by Redleg

[Whispering_Jack 27,883]

From AFL Draft Central - 

Scouting Notes: 2021 AFL U19 National Championships: South Australia vs. Western Australia

#14 Taj Woewodin (East Fremantle)
A somewhat lowkey game from the Melbourne father-son prospect, Woewodin started well in the midfield, winning a bit of ball early but tapered off towards the end of the game. What Woewodin did extremely well all game was present as a marking target around the ground, pushing up near the defensive 50 to be an outlet kick for his teammates, then use it well, generally looking to move the ball inboard. Woewodin got consistent penetration behind hjis kicks even if they weren’t always accurate, making them hard to intercept for defenders.

[Pink Freud 325]

5 hours ago, manny100 said:

Its probably not wise to judge on one game. WA Talent Manager Adam Jones in an Age article today described Woewodin as a " great free hit" for the Dees.

" He's not the quickest player, buy he's clean, skilful on both sides and can play multiple roles."

Woey is well regarded in Talent circles.  He has improved materially this year and often late developers are looked upon favourably.

Another player he says has improved well is Jason Cripps who came back this season from an ACL and played well despite no pre season and shin splints in his return from the ACL.  As a 199cm ruckman he has a fantastic skill set and can play ruck/forward.

 

 

I think you’re confusing the player with someone else. Jason Cripps played for St Kilda around the turn of the century.

The ruckman is Joshua Cripps and he’s not only a teammate of Woewodin, he has a famous brother, Patrick. 

[Demonstone 19,041]

10 hours ago, Pink Freud said:

The ruckman is Joshua Cripps

You can bet that Sydney won't be drafting him.  The Bloods and The Cripps are mortal enemies.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

On 10/10/2021 at 7:34 PM, Northern Summer said:

I guess the question to ask here is, if his surname was not Woewodin, would anyone be taking any notice of him whatsoever? We've certainly moved beyond the point of getting blokes onto our list because of any perceived loyalty, such that we didn't keep Farmer's son, didn't draft Brett Lovett's son, and we let Billy Stretch go too without playing him much. From the sounds of it, he was only a late inclusion into the WA state team. If he gets drafted, particularly to us, that would be awesome and I totally trust our recruiting team who have performed second to none; however, it probably doesn't look overly likely.

Get where you're coming from, but the other factor is the potential discount we may get as far as draft picks goes which may be especially important this in the wash up as we may have slim pickings some what to work with.

Club has been speaking to him, which doesn't guarantee he gets picked, but I would guess he has a decent chance.

[spirit of norm smith 12,828]

16 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

From AFL Draft Central - 

Scouting Notes: 2021 AFL U19 National Championships: South Australia vs. Western Australia

#14 Taj Woewodin (East Fremantle)
A somewhat lowkey game from the Melbourne father-son prospect, Woewodin started well in the midfield, winning a bit of ball early but tapered off towards the end of the game. What Woewodin did extremely well all game was present as a marking target around the ground, pushing up near the defensive 50 to be an outlet kick for his teammates, then use it well, generally looking to move the ball inboard. Woewodin got consistent penetration behind hjis kicks even if they weren’t always accurate, making them hard to intercept for defenders.

Yes I think these comments sum up his game very well. He’s still a late draft/rookie father-son option for me.  I’d be pushing to trade out our pick 47 for a future 2022 third rounder and then draft Woey jnr.as our 3rd draft addition.  He has shown the ability and we can afford time to develop him under the great Choco’s development program.    

[godees 640]

 

[Petracca 65]

Son of a gun and East Fremantle colts skipper Taj Woewodin putting up some seriously quick times in the 20m sprint. 2.906 and 2.898 seconds in his first two. Melbourne get priority access to him in the draft. https://t.co/OtjD5oGytK

[Wrecker46 2,650]

1 hour ago, Petracca said:

Son of a gun and East Fremantle colts skipper Taj Woewodin putting up some seriously quick times in the 20m sprint. 2.906 and 2.898 seconds in his first two. Melbourne get priority access to him in the draft. https://t.co/OtjD5oGytK

Just said on the news he ran the fastest 20m in the WA draft combine

[darkhorse72 1,718]

Online article on Taj on his combine, he's quick over 20.  Quote from Taylor included. 

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl-draft/afl-draft-2021-melbourne-father-son-prospect-taj-woewodin-impresses-at-combine-as-nervous-dad-stays-away-c-4261588

 

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

He's also very much a Goodwin type of player.  Big on work ethic and effort. 

[deelusions from afar 1,608]

I thought he wasn't meant to be quick?