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9 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Young White is about 15 and I’m told is closing in on his father’s height. Worth a look in the draft in a few year’s time and probably already not far off getting a thread of his own on Demonland.😀

To be fair, we now have a thread on the coin toss. So he can dare to dream.

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On 8/8/2021 at 6:30 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

The bidding system for father–sons and academies works this way -

* we assume the player is eligible as a father–son (and has accepted nomination to the club) or academy as the case may be. 

• Each draft pick is assigned a value (with No. 1 starting at 3000 points, declining exponentially until No. 74 which has no value), which is regressed from historical player salary data.

• During the draft, any club may bid for a father–son eligible player with any draft pick.

• The father's club, if it wishes to select the son, must then use its next one or more draft picks until the total points value of the surrendered picks adds up to the value of the draft pick used by the bidding, less a discount – which is either 20% of the bid value or 197 points (equivalent to pick No. 56), whichever is greater. Any points left over after reaching the bid value result in the draft pick being shuffled down the order.

• The club which originally made the bid then has the next selection in the draft.

The same bidding process also works for the academies with the exception that in the case of clubs other than the New South Wales and Queensland clubs, a bid for draft selection cannot be matched by the club to which the academy player is attached.

New bidding system for father-sons, academies

This is the draft value index that applies.

ROUND ONE

ROUND TWO

ROUND THREE

ROUND FOUR

ROUND FIVE

Pick/Pts

Pick/Pts

Pick/Pts

Pick/Pts

Pick/Pts

1. 3000

19. 948

37. 483

55. 207

73. 9

2. 2517

20. 912

38. 465

56. 194

74. -

3. 2234

21. 878

39. 446

57. 182

 

4. 2034

22. 845

40. 429

58. 170

 

5. 1878

23. 815

41. 412

59. 158

 

6. 1751

24. 785

42. 395

60. 146

 

7. 1644

25. 756

43. 378

61. 135

 

8. 1551

26. 729

44. 362

62. 123

 

9. 1469

27. 703

45. 347

63. 112

 

10. 1395

28. 677

46. 331

64. 101

 

11. 1329

29. 653

47. 316

65. 90

 

12. 1268

30. 629

48. 302

66. 80

 

13. 1212

31. 606

49. 287

67. 69

 

14. 1161

32. 584

50. 273

68. 59

 

15. 1112

33. 563

51. 259

69. 49

 

16. 1067

34. 542

52. 246

70. 39

 

17. 1025

35. 522

53. 233

71. 29

 

18. 985

36. 502

54. 220

72. 19

 

 

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I don't mind the sons at all, it is the fathers banging on in social media or training from the over the fence that could be a worry.

 

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7 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Thanks Daz. This being televised anywhere?

I'm not too sure Jay, trying to find that out now. My guess it'll be streamed somewhere? but just not entirely sure.

Watching a future demon in the afternoon and then the boys at night is not a bad Saturday's work.

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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wat

Angkor?

Perhaps not.

What i am trying to suggest is that the influence (and mouth) of the father can be a major distraction (Moore, West come to mind).  Previously the son came at a discount but with the points system you have to pay market value and the benefit now is you do not have to go though the lottery of the draft.

I worked with a chap who was briefly on the Collingwood list in the early 80's.  Wes Fellowes was starting out and his father Graeme was at training all the time, yelling instructions, calling him over to the boundary etc.  Lets just say that this did not improve Wes's standing with the playing group.  Then again Wes did win a Dopeland trophy.

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6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm not too sure Jay, trying to find that out now. My guess it'll be streamed somewhere? but just not entirely sure.

Watching a future demon in the afternoon and then the boys at night is not a bad Saturday's work.

Streamed on afl website apparently. My day looks sorted! 

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5 hours ago, Jontee said:

Angkor?

Perhaps not.

What i am trying to suggest is that the influence (and mouth) of the father can be a major distraction (Moore, West come to mind).  Previously the son came at a discount but with the points system you have to pay market value and the benefit now is you do not have to go though the lottery of the draft.

I worked with a chap who was briefly on the Collingwood list in the early 80's.  Wes Fellowes was starting out and his father Graeme was at training all the time, yelling instructions, calling him over to the boundary etc.  Lets just say that this did not improve Wes's standing with the playing group.  Then again Wes did win a Dopeland trophy.

You still get a discount for father son. Or are you referring to the good old days where a third rounder would do it?

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19 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Thanks Daz. This being televised anywhere?

 

19 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm not too sure Jay, trying to find that out now. My guess it'll be streamed somewhere? but just not entirely sure.

Watching a future demon in the afternoon and then the boys at night is not a bad Saturday's work.

Hey all, if anyone is interested to watch the game Taj is playing in, you can watch it at the below YouTube link

 

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13 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Streamed on afl website apparently. My day looks sorted! 

Thanks Chaser, I was very tempted to head out there, but need to earn some brownie points as I have a couple of work reunions and footy club nights next week. Heading out now to do some gardening and house chores and will watch the game after that. Then take the dog for a walk to the local park (where there just happens to be a couple of mates watching an Ammos final🍺🍺🍺🤫🤫🤫 then home to watch the Dees 

13 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Cheers mate.

Some handy names to look out for WA. Amiss, Erasmus, Johnson and Warner interest me.

I love Warner, he’s well ahead of Taj currently and is just a born leader. The kid is a gun. Erasmus doesn’t do a lot that will catch your eye, he just does the basics very well and knows how to find the ball. You will think he’s been quiet and all of a sudden 20 odd possessions 2 or 3 goals and a few score assists. He’s one of our boys from Sorrento Duncraig.

Amiss I don’t know much about country boy J believe from the south west, who has developed very quickly after moving to the city on a permanent basis.

Johnson been talked about for a while another northern coastal Perth boy from Sacred Heart who will impress, heap of endeavour and desire to succeed. Wins his own footy and also uses it well. Fairly cool in traffic, which is a decent trait for the next level 

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On 8/27/2021 at 11:58 AM, Lord Travis said:

I saw Daicos nominated for father son. Are these nominations officially open? If so, can we expect to hear this week if Taj has nominated?

Anyone know if Taj has actually nominated?

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7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

from memory, players don't have to nominate until november

this was just a bit of a puff piece for the filth faithful

Right ok. Should’ve known it was just fluff. Thanks for the info!

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