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Would not be surprised if Brisbane snatch him. Medical department would be a huge selling point for him.

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46 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

If he gets that he will roughly equal our highest paid players:  May and Lever the only Demons around that mark.  At a guess, Max might be getting close.

Huge risk for a perenniallt injured player.  It won't go down well if he breaks down next year, especially after our other big plays in the aforementioned May and Lever.  Not to mention it will deliver pick #17 to the Pies!

I agree. Not stating it as fact, just what I've heard.

It's the harsh reality of a basket case club who finished 17th trying to attract a good player from a big club.

 

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8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Would not be surprised if Brisbane snatch him. Medical department would be a huge selling point for him.

Burgess would be a huge selling point for us.  It's a big move interstate and by the sound of things they haven't established a dialogue before now.  We are the one's to beat if he moves.

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$750k for Elliot would be madness if it it didn't come with some heavy KPI's.

If real there is no way Pies would match it

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36 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Would not be surprised if Brisbane snatch him. Medical department would be a huge selling point for him.

Don't underestimate this selling point for a player with a history of long term injuries like Elliott. Brisbane's almost non-existant injury list was not all luck.

Another selling point for Brisbane is the fact that they are miles ahead of us in terms of playing deep into finals. All we have to offer is dollars and I'm not sure we have the bank to keep a player from wanting to play finals footy.

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Don't underestimate this selling point for a player with a history of long term injuries like Elliott. Brisbane's almost non-existant injury list was not all luck.

Another selling point for Brisbane is the fact that they are miles ahead of us in terms of playing deep into finals. All we have to offer is dollars and I'm not sure we have the bank to keep a player from wanting to play finals footy.

At Elliot's stage of life it's all about contract term and dollars. At 26 this is his big signing.

Finals footy is just a cherry if other things are equal.

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41 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Would not be surprised if Brisbane snatch him. Medical department would be a huge selling point for him.

This is not the worst scenario. We COULD be dodging a huge bullet with this one. Don't get me wrong Eliott COULD be a massive asset to us if he plays every game and can maintain the 30 plus goal a year but he has never played a full season in his career and has missed 2 WHOLE years through injuries. We already have a cavalcade of perennially injured players. No need to pay overs for another.

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5 minutes ago, raDeelaide said:

Don't underestimate this selling point for a player with a history of long term injuries like Elliott. Brisbane's almost non-existant injury list was not all luck.

Another selling point for Brisbane is the fact that they are miles ahead of us in terms of playing deep into finals. All we have to offer is dollars and I'm not sure we have the bank to keep a player from wanting to play finals footy.

Last two seasons:

Melbourne - Finals played 3 / wins 2 Losses 1

Brisbane - Finals played 2 / wins 0 losses 2

While we had a shocking year, to say they are miles ahead is ridiculous.

Just last season they finished with a total of 5 wins.

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54 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Well I would love to know how much each and every player receives.

 

I wouldn’t want to know - it would exacerbate my irritable bowel.

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14 minutes ago, raDeelaide said:

Don't underestimate this selling point for a player with a history of long term injuries like Elliott. Brisbane's almost non-existant injury list was not all luck.

Another selling point for Brisbane is the fact that they are miles ahead of us in terms of playing deep into finals. All we have to offer is dollars and I'm not sure we have the bank to keep a player from wanting to play finals footy.

Brisbane have been an under performing mess for years and had one good year. So let the dust settle a bit. They also had the best injury run in the AFL and a great draw. yes they played very well but ultimately they finished lower than us last year.

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5 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

I wouldn’t want to know - it would exacerbate my irritable bowel.

Fair point chook!

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Posted (edited)

Hawks Officially Out. Trade Talks with Frost have just commenced as well.

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5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Several credible posters here have said Hawks and Saints withdrew respective offers.  Both Elliot and Tomlinson upset at leaving their clubs.

Your point is valid but from that info it isn't MFCSS at least not on my part.

On withdrawing offers I don't think tbat is always an indication a club has cooled or how they rate a player. In most instances I suspect in principle  deals are done or close to being  locked  well before the trade period. Once it becomes clear to a club they are no longer in the race the logical play is to put it out there the club is not keen. Avoids stressing out supporters and creating an impression of a club no-one wants to go to and/or can't landcdeals.  Like the roos have experienced.

Being perceived as a club that gets deals done and gets the player it wants is helpful as well.

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1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

I always find it interesting as far as the difference in what a player will accept at different clubs.

ie - Let's say Elliot stays at the Pies for 500K when we've offered 750k. Says a lot about how the industry perceives us as a destination in my opinion.

 

Hmm, not sure that is the case at all LN.  It is pretty common knowledge that it is the dislodging players from their incumbant club that is what drives a higher wage.  The players by and large appear extremely connected to their existing club hence the need to loosen them with $$s (they are inherently team animals to begin with).  Obviously not all players are like that (Jeremy Howe & Dangerfield spring to mind) but most of them like to have a sense of belonging first and foremost

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26 minutes ago, Lefty said:

This is not the worst scenario. We COULD be dodging a huge bullet with this one. Don't get me wrong Eliott COULD be a massive asset to us if he plays every game and can maintain the 30 plus goal a year but he has never played a full season in his career and has missed 2 WHOLE years through injuries. We already have a cavalcade of perennially injured players. No need to pay overs for another.

Can't agree more....

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10 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

Hmm, not sure that is the case at all LN.  It is pretty common knowledge that it is the dislodging players from their incumbant club that is what drives a higher wage.  The players by and large appear extremely connected to their existing club hence the need to loosen them with $$s (they are inherently team animals to begin with).  Obviously not all players are like that (Jeremy Howe & Dangerfield spring to mind) but most of them like to have a sense of belonging first and foremost

Yeah that's a great point. My example was more just about when it's such a huge difference in money though. Agree with your point also though.

 

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Hawthorn now claiming they never spoke with Elliott. 

“I heard us linked with Jamie Elliott but we haven’t spoken to him and his management,” he told hawthornfc.com.au’s trade podcast.

“Rumours go all over the place at this time of year and you can’t control it and if you try to answer them all it becomes a nightmare as well.”

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1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

I always find it interesting as far as the difference in what a player will accept at different clubs.

ie - Let's say Elliot stays at the Pies for 500K when we've offered 750k. Says a lot about how the industry perceives us as a destination in my opinion.

 

No way hes getting offered 500k at the pies. I reckon thats what we have offered that over 3 years with a trigger for a 4th.

Effectively he will be taking on Jordan Lewis' Cash.

How could Elliott possibly let everyone at Collingwood know he wont be their next year while he still has to attend their BnF.

Can expect a decision next week.

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10 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Hawthorn now claiming they never spoke with Elliott. 

“I heard us linked with Jamie Elliott but we haven’t spoken to him and his management,” he told hawthornfc.com.au’s trade podcast.

“Rumours go all over the place at this time of year and you can’t control it and if you try to answer them all it becomes a nightmare as well.”

The word I'm serching for starts with a B and ends with a t.

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49 minutes ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

Last two seasons:

Melbourne - Finals played 3 / wins 2 Losses 1

Brisbane - Finals played 2 / wins 0 losses 2

While we had a shocking year, to say they are miles ahead is ridiculous.

Just last season they finished with a total of 5 wins.

It would be no surprise for them to miss finals next year. And every single AFL player would know that.

They had a big year, like us last year they have gone deeper than previously, which is a challenge for youngish list and they had dream run with injuries. Not much has to go wrong for them to drop off.

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7 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

No way hes getting offered 500k at the pies. I reckon thats what we have offered that over 3 years with a trigger for a 4th.

Effectively he will be taking on Jordan Lewis' Cash.

How could Elliott possibly let everyone at Collingwood know he wont be their next year while he still has to attend their BnF.

Can expect a decision next week.

Was just an example, wasn't meant as accurate figures.

 

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13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Hawthorn now claiming they never spoke with Elliott. 

“I heard us linked with Jamie Elliott but we haven’t spoken to him and his management,” he told hawthornfc.com.au’s trade podcast.

“Rumours go all over the place at this time of year and you can’t control it and if you try to answer them all it becomes a nightmare as well.”

Take ANYTHING the Hawks say publicly with a grain of salt.  They've been stitching up opponents & umps on the field and all other clubs off it since the 70s.

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1 hour ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Burgess would be a huge selling point for us.  It's a big move interstate and by the sound of things they haven't established a dialogue before now.  We are the one's to beat if he moves.

Also would know Taylor well and knows his way to Goschs paddock and the MCG. 

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5 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

The word I'm serching for starts with a B and ends with a t.

He wants to go where? Melbourne? What?!? Righto then, we never spoke to him, he doesn't exist. Who are we talking about again? Jeremy? Jamie? Nup, no idea who you're talking about.

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19 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Hawthorn now claiming they never spoke with Elliott. 

“I heard us linked with Jamie Elliott but we haven’t spoken to him and his management,” he told hawthornfc.com.au’s trade podcast.

“Rumours go all over the place at this time of year and you can’t control it and if you try to answer them all it becomes a nightmare as well.”

Saving Face. No one wants to look like they've missed out on a potential recruit to Melbourne! Why that would be heresy!

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