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6 hours ago, rjay said:

I find this the most interesting part of the story...

"Josh Mahoney is conducting a review, sources linked to Melbourne confident the highly regarded football manager is sufficiently independent to identify the issues and make tough decisions."

How can he be sufficiently independent, he runs the department he's reviewing?

What if he's the issue?

Anyway, I sure hope we get this right...couldn't stand another season of irrelevance finishing early again.

It's like the way when coppers commit crimes they are investigated by their peers and invariably found kosher....

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11 hours ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Spot on rjay, given he's never played at the highest level he needs to show he has the capability to lead his own team. Chris Fagan is the only current AFL coach who never played at the level, but had extensive experience coaching his own sides before given a shot at an assistant level. Jennings has the reputation across the league as the best analyst of the game, and a great teacher but needs to show he can operate in his own right so he gets to get the opportunities afforded to ex-players.

Clearly his supposed reputation for all this greatness to which you refer, has not resulted in much by sitting next to Goodwin for the last few years. 

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6 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Hard to notice through all the [censored] whingeing and whining on here and the pathetic need to point score

I watched training, I refuse to accept the pre season as an excuse for some of the appalling performances we have produced this year

They are professional players, if you are fully fit, you play

The point is, surely, some of them WERE NOT FULLY FIT. T.Mac and Viney, just for starters....

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6 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Why are we, as a club, so resistant to an external review? Is Pert worried about saving face? We're 17th on the ladder after the no.1 AFL statistics company ranked our list the best in the AFL. External reviews should be welcome as we clearly need some assistance. 

What has the 2019 fiasco season got to do with Pert????

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1 hour ago, dieter said:

Me. I'd have them playing Wagner and Beethoven on their ear phones while the coach talked his twaddle.

No more Wagners 'dexter', please...

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22 hours ago, goodwindees said:

Another sign that those who believe the failure of this season is primarily due to injuries and off season surgeries are incredibly off the mark. 

Keep ringing the changes.  I would also hope/suggest Josh Mahoney & Jason Taylor need to have a very strong Trade & Draft to secure their immediate futures. 

yes they were doing pretty well but I really think the 2018 draft has left us with nothing in the short term and who knows longer term.

 

They will get a real good look at it this year though. have to strike some gold.

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1 hour ago, dieter said:

What has the 2019 fiasco season got to do with Pert????

Nothing. I just want him to call for an external review so someone outside the club can point out the deficiencies with the FD. 

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11 hours ago, Cam Schwab's Whiteboard said:

Thanks for the response.

If it's coming from above, do you think Goodwin would be out the door too if he wasn't signed up already?
I'm wondering whether Pert et. al. extended him because they absolutely believe in Goodwin but not those around him? Or whether they don't believe in any of the coaching staff but are beholden to the 3 year deal for the moment.

Even if Goodwin were only contracted for 1 more year we would not be moving him on.

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10 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Interesting link to the fallout of Jennings. Apparently didn't get on with Brendan McCartney. 

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/the-inside-word-on-how-melbourne-demons-craig-jennings-fell-out-of-favour-c-396886.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Regardless of the content that is a terribly written article. Reads like something from a year 7 kid rather than a professional journalist.

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10 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Jennings gone

McCartney gone

Rawlings brought back

Plapp de-emphasised.

Chapman hopeless.

But Goody's the man.

Is Goodwin in charge of coaching appointments? Or does that rest with the head of football?

You'd probably have been on the sack Bomber (2006) and sack Hardwick (2016) bandwagons too. Clearing out the assistants and restructuring does not necessarily reflect on the future prospects of the senior coach.

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14 hours ago, General Malaise said:

I don't know him at all, but I was talking to someone last week who does. Regards him as a 'good mate' and has reasonable shared footy history.

Totally unprompted by me he volunteered that Goody's a 'control freak' who 'won't listen to anybody'.

There was more that suggests he won't seek or listen to a new mentor figure.

Could be why Jennings ideas weren't heard.

And why McCartny, who calls a spade a spade, was removed from the coaches box and then given the flick.

Carp  on that!

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9 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Is Goodwin in charge of coaching appointments? Or does that rest with the head of football?

You'd probably have been on the sack Bomber (2006) and sack Hardwick (2016) bandwagons too. Clearing out the assistants and restructuring does not necessarily reflect on the future prospects of the senior coach.

Roos, im told, gave Goody quite some largesse  to appoint 'his' crew. He would have afforded anyone that ability. Had it been Dew they both knew who that  crew would have been. That never transpired  obviously  and the rest is history  .

I think Simons season of appointments  have come to a close ;)

As to Jennings not getting on with Macca...he would have a few mates there .

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1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Roos, im told, gave Goody quite some largesse  to appoint 'his' crew. He would have afforded anyone that ability. Had it been Dew they both knew who that  crew would have been. That never transpired  obviously  and the rest is history  .

I think Simons season of appointments  have come to a close ;)

As to Jennings not getting on with Macca...he would have a few mates there .

I was  actually talking about Goodwin and Maccas relationship. But take your point Bb.

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On 8/13/2019 at 12:55 AM, bluey said:

So what about Mahoney, Viney , Taylor, walking the plank, seriously blame

a few peripheral assistants, not their fault, what a train wreck this club is.

Mahoney, Viney and Taylor???? What have they done. 

Oh that’s right brought in quality players, Shame on them. 

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Surely the precedence set by Collingwood and Richmond shows that all senior coaches need time in the chair and exposing them and the players to new assistant coaches with new ideas is nothing but a good thing. 

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13 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

It appears this thread has become another bag Goodwin thread.

Deservedly so in my opinion, but lets wait and see how the end of year plays out

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3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Mahoney, Viney and Taylor???? What have they done. 

Oh that’s right brought in quality players, Shame on them. 

What does Todd Viney do actually? 

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18 minutes ago, Kent said:

What does Todd Viney do actually? 

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17 hours ago, General Malaise said:

I don't know him at all, but I was talking to someone last week who does. Regards him as a 'good mate' and has reasonable shared footy history.

Totally unprompted by me he volunteered that Goody's a 'control freak' who 'won't listen to anybody'.

There was more that suggests he won't seek or listen to a new mentor figure.

Could be why Jennings ideas weren't heard.

 

That’s utter tripe and I’d go as far as to say you’ve fabricated that, or at the very least the person who told you this has.

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2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

It appears this thread has become another bag Goodwin thread.

LOL, yes people bang on here how they want change and as soon as it happens they're still not happy and take it as another opportunity to sink the boots in. Unless they're in the inner sanctum nobody really knows, and won't know until we get a good look at next season.

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3 hours ago, Kent said:

Deservedly so in my opinion, but lets wait and see how the end of year plays out

You're going to make judgements based on the last 2 games?

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1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

You're going to make judgements based on the last 2 games?

Might he be referencing the off season fun and games circus also ? ( or not ..lol )

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14 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Is Goodwin in charge of coaching appointments? Or does that rest with the head of football?

You'd probably have been on the sack Bomber (2006) and sack Hardwick (2016) bandwagons too. Clearing out the assistants and restructuring does not necessarily reflect on the future prospects of the senior coach.

I never said it did. You're good at presuming for other posters. 

It is clearly a reflection of the disfunction/failure of our present coaching set up - against what many of the happy clappers have been saying. I think I have worked out what camp you're in.

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26 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

You're going to make judgements based on the last 2 games?

Last 23 games actually

We have no choice. The Softly Softly approach is not an option. 

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