PREGAME: Rd 21 vs Collingwood

[Demonland 64,761]

Retro Rival Round
Round 21 - Melbourne v Collingwood
Saturday 10 August, 1.45pm AEST
MCG

Melbourne hosts Retro Rival Round this weekend against old adversaries Collingwood in a traditional Saturday timeslot.

The game will be a throwback to celebrate the club's rich history and fans are invited to get involved in the retro theme of the game. 

Keep your eyes out during the week for more. 

Game day timings

11.30am: MCC gates open

12.00pm: AFL and public reserve opens

1.45pm: First bounce

Members

As a home game, Melbourne members can scan into the game for general admission access.

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Not only does this membership give fans access to the three games, it also includes three complimentary tickets to bring a friend.

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General public

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Public transport

The MCG is located a short walk from Jolimont and Richmond train stations.

The ground is also serviced by the 48, 75 (stopping at Wellington Parade) and 70 (stopping at Hisense Arena) tram routes.

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Car parking

Yarra Park will be closed for parking across all Round 21 MCG games. This extends to parking for disability permit and accredited pass holders.

Patrons with mobility issues can be dropped off near the MCG on the corner of Jolimont Terrace and Jolimont St.

The Travellers Aid shuttle service has also been extended to begin two hours before gates open, with pick up points near Jolimont Station and Richmond Station. Find out more here.

All broadcast info in local times.

Melbourne: Foxtel – 1.30pm
Sydney: Foxtel – 1.30pm
Brisbane: Foxtel – 1.30pm
Adelaide:  Foxtel – 1.00pm
Perth: Foxtel – 11.30am
Tasmania: Foxtel – 1.30pm
ACT: Foxtel – 1.30pm
NT: Foxtel – 1.00pm

For all other regions and radio info, refer to the AFL Broadcast Guide.

Mobile app

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Social media

Match hashtag: #AFLDeesPies

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VFLW Round 14

In the VFLW, Casey will travel to Box Hill City Oval for a Saturday afternoon clash with the Hawks.

Match details

Hawthorn v Casey
Saturday August 10, 1.00pm
Box Hill City Oval

Admission

Melbourne/Casey Demons members: $5 upon presentation of your membership card
Adults: $10
Concession/pensioner: $5
Juniors under 15: FREE

VFL Round 19

In the second match-up between the sides in 2019, Casey will travel to Victoria Park to take on Collingwood on Sunday. 

Match details

Collingwood v Casey
Sunday August 11, 12.00pm
Victoria Park, Abbotsford

Tickets

Melbourne/Casey Demons members: $5 upon presentation of your membership card
Adults: $10
Concession/pensioner: $5
Juniors under 15: FREE

Coverage

Social media

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THE PEOPLE SPEAK by The Demonland Crew

Thanks to Demonlanders for their input into this week’s preview.

Ralphius Maximus is short and bittersweet:

We'll crack in at the bounce to create a contest, win our share of the ball, butcher the forward movement and get scored on easily from the intercepts. Not that hard to predict.

Big Demon says:

Unfortunately Collingwood will win because they have a lot more to play for. We will be good in parts but really the season is well over so we will have to put up with those belligerent black and white mongrels all day yet again.  

Soidee’s view:

Sadly it will be another loss for the MFC.  I have watched them closely and a losing culture has set in.  Goodwin refuses to change and he will be better served to just let the team free up and play with freedom over next 3 weeks. 

Collingwood have all to play for, our players are drowning in process and no confidence.  There will be players offloaded in the off season and those who remain will have the hardest pre season in recent history.

Mahoney and Goodwin on their last chance to get it right.  Don’t stuff around, if we have injury prone players then move them on.  We need fit players on our list and need to bring in a power forward and speed in the middle.

Mental Demons:

Collingwood will win. Goodwin's comments about testing players for versatility and to see what they have for the future is an admission that we don't wan't or care to win. We will be better of with the high draft pick. It also hides our future potential for when we can put out a better team next year. The Demons have a bit of a record of not being good two years in a row.

It has given a chance to have a look at some players who would not have got a look in but for injuries. It has separated a few of the men from the boys. Hore, Petty, Dunkley and Lockhart look to have something to offer. It has also weeded out some of our problems. If we were out to win we would be playing guys who are playing for their careers because their contracts are up. Of this Spargo and O Mac have very misty futures.

It has also highlighted our poor drafting and player management. May is an overpriced crock but is the most secure player on our list, more secure than Max, Oliver, Salem, Harmes, Melksham, in fact everybody. May needs to show some value because his return this year has been terrible. May turns up unfit and struggles to stay on the field. Lever is not as much of a problem as he reads play well and has rebounding skills, he just needs a good run at it and his potential will be shown. Our other management problem players are Weideman (is only really a third tall); Vandenberg (has he played a game since we signed him for 3 years so the Swans would not get him?); Kolodjashnij (has not show any value at Casey); Pruess (immobile and overpriced).

Pruess was a liability last week and so has not shown we can play him and Max in the same team.To be competitive against the Pies,  we need our quickest team out there. If May is out again we probably need Oscar Mac in, no other tall options. JHK did not do enough last week to be kept on the list next year so another small can have a go in the big league. If Leaver is out, bring in Hore. If Tim Smith is fit we should bring him in. Would be good to have a look at Jordon, and/or Bedford. What have we got to lose except pick 2? 

robbiefrom13 opines:

Collingwood appear to be physically far stronger than Melbourne, and faster, and unlike us they are playing with confidence - so it's hard to see us getting anywhere near them.

On the other hand, if Goodwin hasn't lost the players, they - all of them, coaching staff and players - must be highly motivated to prove it and silence the growing rumblings about coach/players "connection".  And Collingwood are presumably at real risk of going into this game overly confident.  Like a team running out for the first time under a new coach, we could surprise the world.  Terribly undermanned, we surprised West Coast a few years ago.  Upsets happen - it's not impossible.  But unless the stories about a breakdown between players and their coaches are wrong, it's not going to happen this week.

So there's the interest - to see if the game departs from the obvious script, even a little bit.  The game itself hardly matters for us, as far as this season is concerned - but the bigger narrative of the state of our club - that does.  We must be getting closer to knowing for sure - so Melbourne supporters may go to the footy focused on a completely different drama to the one Collingwood fans will be there drooling for

The Third Eye concludes:

The Demons are struggling. Of this there is no doubt because our expectations were so high as we went into the preseason before things fell away so badly.

But I wonder if we’re really that bad. We know the club is running at about ⅔ rat power due to our disastrous injury and fitness injuries but I was bemused by an article in the Herald Sun which waxed eloquent about Carlton’s future after its 24 point loss against the West Coast Eagles who took their feet off the accelerator from at least as early as the start of the final quarter on Sunday. The critics were nowhere near as friendly to Melbourne which lost by 13 points two weeks earlier in a game that could have gone either way. “Off with Goodwin’s head!” they wail.

As for the Magpies, they’ve been up and down in the past month or so while suffering from an injury list that compares with that of the Demons if you believe their supporters. But according to a stat that came up on my Twitter feed that said, “Collingwood averaging 3.7 first 22 players missing per game, Dees 6.9.” Never let it be said that Collingwood folk understand the word “perspective”.

Their team looked pathetic a fortnight ago against the Tigers and they were gorn by half time before their opponents virtually hung up their boots midway through the final term and allowed them to get to within 32 points of their tormentors. Melbourne, on the other hand, stayed up with Richmond for a half and  fell away with the coming of the rain in third quarter to lose by 33 points.

On that basis, the teams are pretty evenly matched and if the Demons can kick straight for goal, they win. I think they will do it this week - they have absolutely nothing to lose.

* and that’s the retro round preview. Apologies to those who missed out.

THE GAME

Melbourne v Collingwood at the MCG Saturday 10 August, 2019 at 1.45pm

HEAD TO HEAD

Overall Melbourne 83 wins, Collingwood 149 wins, 5 drawn

At the MCG Melbourne 63 wins, Collingwood 82 wins, 3 drawn

Last Five Meetings Melbourne 2 wins, Collingwood  3 wins

The Coaches Goodwin 1 win, Buckley 3 wins

MEDIA

TV - Fox Footy Live at 1.30pm

Radio -  Triple M 3AW ABC

LAST TIME THEY MET

Collingwood 15.8.98 defeated Melbourne 7.15.57 at the MCG in Round 13, 2019

It was a comprehensive victory to the Magpies who simplify could not miss their shots from any angle or distance after half time while the Demons’ disposal was horrible.

THE TEAMS

Injury List: Round 21

Steven May (hamstring) – test
Jake Lever (ankle) – test
Charlie Spargo (calf) –  test
Mitch Hannan (groin) – 1-2 weeks
Tom Sparrow (knee) – 2-3 weeks
Aaron vandenBerg (foot) – season
Neville Jetta (knee) - season
Jeff Garlett (shoulder) – season
Kade Kolodjashnij (head) – season 
Tom McDonald (knee) – season
Aaron Nietschke  (knee) – season
Joel Smith (groin) – season
Sam Weideman (jaw) – season
Guy Walker (shoulder) – indefinite

[dazzledavey36 48,707]

I reckon we'll beat the pies.

[dl4e 5,583]

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I reckon we'll beat the pies.

So do I. Problem may be the potential wet weather. I hate the filth.

[Demonland 64,761]

14 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I reckon we'll beat the pies.

I really wish we could get revenge on them for Round 23 2017 but alas even if we could somehow beat them they'll still make the finals.

[Lefty 328]

Given Collingwood's extensive injury list we could be a chance to pinch a win. If they pants us then we are really in trouble.

 

COLLINGWOOD

Player	Injury	Estimated Return
James Aish	Shoulder	2-3 weeks
Dayne Beams	Shoulder/Hip	Season
Mason Cox	Eye	Season
Jordan De Goey	Hamstring	1 week
Lynden Dunn	Knee	Season
Will Kelly	Hamstring	TBC
Tom Langdon	Knee	Season
Darcy Moore	Hamstring	2-3 weeks
Nathan Murphy	Back	Test
Sam Murray	Provisional ASADA suspension	TBC
Isaac Quaynor	Foot	TBC
Ben Reid	Hamstring	TBC
Brayden Sier	Calf	TBC
Jaidyn Stephenson	Suspended	3 weeks
Daniel Wells	Knee	Test
Updated: Tuesday, August 6

[Lord Nev 13,511]

Collingwood playing for a top 4 spot, Melbourne playing for a top 4 draft pick.

Those motivations determine the likely result for mine.

[Frustrated Demon 233]

Not sure I really care to be honest. I will check the score but that’s about it

[ArtificialWisdom 3,848]

 

[CHF 2,599]

one change. may in for Preuss.

 

[buck_nekkid 5,476]

Are we trying to have the slowest and oldest wingers in the comp - maybe ever?

[loges 6,021]

3 minutes ago, CHF said:

one change. may in for Preuss.

 

Hore ignored again. Surely in best 22 atm

[Demonland 64,761]

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

How is Hore not in for either Wagner? They spudded it up. Corey’s up and under bomb kick 2 minutes into the third summed up his abilities

[CHF 2,599]

Just now, Leoncelli_36 said:

How is Hore not in for either Wagner? They spudded it up. Corey’s up and under bomb kick 2 minutes into the third summed up his abilities

I would have Hore in the team rather than Omac with May, Frost and Lever already in the back six.

[dazzledavey36 48,707]

What a bizzare and utter joke of a team selection. Collingwood have 1 bloke inside the forward 50 who is over the 190cm mark and we bring in Steven May yet continue to select Oscar!? To play on who exactly? Their 188cm full forward in Hoskin Elliot!? It's going to be wet and miserable and we stack a backline with tall defenders.

Blind Freddy could see we need to bring in an extra runner or maybe reward a bloke by the name of Marty Hore who was a daylight BOG and much better match up for Collingwood small forwards.

Sums up our year.

[censored] you Goody

Edited August 8, 2019 by dazzledavey36

[binman 37,967]

Question:

'Oscar played again after being dropped because Steven May got injured, not on the back of form at Casey. So if it weren't for Steven May's injury, Oscar would still be in the VFL and the 'myth' would be a truth. Would it not?' 

Answer:

Apparently not

[bing181 8,164]

Oh look, Jake Lever was put back on the ground when he injured his ankle ... and he's playing the following week. That's not the way it's supposed to work.

[Earl Hood 5,788]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What a bizzare and utter joke of a team selection. Collingwood have 1 bloke inside the forward 50 who is over the 190cm mark and we bring in Steven May yet continue to select Oscar!? To play on who exactly? Their 188cm full forward in Hoskin Elliot!? It's going to be wet and miserable and we stack a backline with tall defenders.

Blind Freddy could see we need to bring in an extra runner.

Sums up our year.

Yes I was hoping for Hore and Stretch in for OMac and Wagner. Guess poor Billy’s papers are stamped. At least JKH gets another game. 

[Ethan Tremblay 28,358]

OMac retains his spot and no Hore. Goodwin said Collingwood have some really good smaller players so we’ll need players who can play on big and small. Watch their forwards run rings around OMac. I give up. 

[Neil Crompton 4,716]

How must Hore be feeling after 2 or 3 very good games at Casey, to still be behind Oscar in the pecking order - for god knows what reason. To miss out on playing against his old club must be adding to his frustration. 

Can someone please justify his non selection?

[drysdale demon 4,146]

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What a bizzare and utter joke of a team selection. Collingwood have 1 bloke inside the forward 50 who is over the 190cm mark and we bring in Steven May yet continue to select Oscar!? To play on who exactly? Their 188cm full forward in Hoskin Elliot!? It's going to be wet and miserable and we stack a backline with tall defenders.

Blind Freddy could see we need to bring in an extra runner or maybe reward a bloke by the name of Marty Hore who was a daylight BOG and much better match up for Collingwood small forwards.

Sums up our year.

[censored] you Goody

I have a feeling there may be a 2 or 3 changes prior to the game

[Moonshadow 16,162]

Who will relieve Max? Petty? Omac?

[dl4e 5,583]

Hore not selected again and Omac still in the side. This is a complete joke. 

[dazzledavey36 48,707]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

OMac retains his spot and no Hore. Goodwin said Collingwood have some really good smaller players so we’ll need players who can play on big and small. Watch their forwards run rings around OMac. I give up. 

I legit cannot in the world find a simple Match up for McDonald.  

The only reason I can think of is that we are now officially tanking for Noah Anderson. 

[dazzledavey36 48,707]

1 minute ago, drysdale demon said:

I have a feeling there may be a 2 or 3 changes prior to the game

It has to be?? Frost and Lever is enough down back with the quick mid type forwards, with May to play up forward.