Jump to content

Demonland

Alan Richardson on Demon's Radar

Recommended Posts

I wonder how Brad Scott compares in terms of levels of interest? you don't see too much about clubs asking about him. 

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He’d be a great asset as an assistant coach and mentor. I think it’s extremely likely we’ll see the majority of assistant coaches cleared out over the off season and Richardson joins us as part of a new setup.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Would love to get Michael Voss in as a midfield/stoppage coach. how good would it be to have Voss to team guys like Brayshaw and Oliver?

  • Like 7
  • Love 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pity we couldn’t get Ratten back a year or so ago. He knows the midfield so well. 

That said Richo would be a great asset. He beat us often as a coach. 

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

32 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I wonder how Brad Scott compares in terms of levels of interest? you don't see too much about clubs asking about him. 

I suspect the Scott brothers will job share at Geelong. 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Are we... shopping for next years potential caretaker coach? 🤔

Edited by John Demonic
  • Love 1
  • Haha 2
  • Shocked 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 I like Richo, but he's not the right man for us - his style is similar to Goody's  in that he likes his side to get the ball forward, but he's not coming in to work guys over on the training track at his age. 

Goody is 42, he's not a kid on training wheels that needs a new mentor to replace Macca. He needs quality 'next generation' coaches to spark things up at training and reduce the generational impasse between players and coaches.

We have just appointed Darren Burgess as fitness coach, which should be a good get, but he is over 50 and won't be doing most of the drills with the players - he's now too old for that. But he has years of experience and should know how to get blokes fit and have smarts in injury and load management.

We also have several ageing assistant coaches and by ageing I mean the following. Once coaches get into their 40s, they rarely have the physical capabilities to hammer, chase, pressure their younger colleagues. They have smarts, but eventually it's best to move them on into other roles or back into the coaching system at lower tiers - ammos and metro sides etc. 

Ruck coach Greg Stafford turns 45 in a few weeks.

Stoppage coach Ben Mathews is a ripper but he's 42 next year.

Forwards coach Jade Rawlings is about to turn 42 and he still is happy to have blokes body him at training, but he's not a young pup.

Midfield development Justin Plapp is also 42.

Backline coach Troy Chaplin is just 33.

Development coach Max Rooke is 37.

Player development coach Matthew Egan is 36.

So to me the most important gets now are two or three young assistants who can be hands-on at training - Jordy should be No.1 choice and there are others who have just retired and can impart knowledge and instantly have respect of their young players.

To me a really good tackling coach is high on the list - the Billy Slater role has worked at Saints this year, is there another Storm ex-player who we can snare to impart technical wisdom? 

  • Like 1
  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, chookrat said:

I suspect the Scott brothers will job share at Geelong. 

I think they already are, can't just be coincidence that Geelong have gone to [censored] after norf got rid of their Scott??

  • Love 1
  • Haha 7
  • Shocked 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pity we couldn’t get Ratten back a year or so ago. He knows the midfield so well. 

That said Richo would be a great asset. He beat us often as a coach. 

Midfield is going alright though SW.  Outside quality run / finish missing and a few decent forwards needed also to compliment these areas.

Tracc & Gus more time in the mid field should boost the inside a tad also with Jones vacating.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
21 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

He’d be a great asset as an assistant coach and mentor. I think it’s extremely likely we’ll see the majority of assistant coaches cleared out over the off season and Richardson joins us as part of a new setup.

I don't know enough about him: what would be his area of expertise?

We need a super-specialist "entry into forward 50" coach it seems.

20 hours ago, chookrat said:

I suspect the Scott brothers will job share at Geelong. 

LOL.  They could alternate. :-)

Edited by monoccular
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Midfield is going alright though SW.  Outside quality run / finish missing and a few decent forwards needed also to compliment these areas.

Tracc & Gus more time in the mid field should boost the inside a tad also with Jones vacating.

Midfield could be doing a lot better Rusty. 

Do not kid yourself

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Midfield could be doing a lot better Rusty. 

Do not kid yourself

They should be doing a lot better.

If you consider the amount of hit-outs and hit-outs to advantage Gawny gives us, then look at how many clearances we record per game, it becomes blatantly obvious that there is a huge disconnect between our ruck and mids.

If only Max could rove his own taps.................

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

They should be doing a lot better.

If you consider the amount of hit-outs and hit-outs to advantage Gawny gives us, then look at how many clearances we record per game, it becomes blatantly obvious that there is a huge disconnect between our ruck and mids.

If only Max could rove his own taps.................

he does a lot of the time

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Demon Disciple said:

They should be doing a lot better.

If you consider the amount of hit-outs and hit-outs to advantage Gawny gives us, then look at how many clearances we record per game, it becomes blatantly obvious that there is a huge disconnect between our ruck and mids.

If only Max could rove his own taps.................

Sweet Jeezus! Imagine if Max asked for a trade. Or worse, went down with another ACL..... 😲

  • Shocked 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Deespicable said:

 

We also have several ageing assistant coaches and by ageing I mean the following. Once coaches get into their 40s, they rarely have the physical capabilities to hammer, chase, pressure their younger colleagues. They have smarts, but eventually it's best to move them on into other roles or back into the coaching system at lower tiers - ammos and metro sides etc. 

 

What?????

A coach can be 70, morbidly obese and spend half their time on a mobility scooter and still do the job. 67 year old Bill Belichick or big Red Andy Reid wouldn't make good NFL assistants? Or 70 year old Greg Popovich in the NBA?

Daniel Cross is a physical freak capable of doing rehab group training. Any else who's retired has almost instantly lost the ability chase, pressure and reproduce drills at AFL players levels.

It's good to have fit and healthy younger coaches who can feed the balls in and demonstrate body positions but assistant coaches by and large aren't joining in drills. It's demonstrate the techniques then use the group of 40+ players to execute the drills. 

I'd be trying to bring a complimentary group in alongside Goodwin. A coach with experience like Richo makes sense, no one else on the MFC staff can give Goodwin advice on how to deal with senior coaching issues. And a young on the rise assistant with fresh ideas and ambition would make sense too. I'd take a close look at the non Victorian teams and look for a coach keen to come to Melbourne on the path to a senior job, that's Teague and Rhyce Shaw's pathway as well as another higher rated assistant in Justin Longmuir. 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
28 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Midfield could be doing a lot better Rusty. 

Do not kid yourself

Delivery inside 50 certainly and defensive two way stuff for sure but a failed forward line hasn't helped with their ability to recover in time (aerobically & just covering the ground in time) SW.

Improve the latter (FL) in a big way, some outside class and speed.  May, Hore, Lever, Nev, hopefully less turnovers im key areas from Frosty and we just might have one of the top defences in 2020.

Maxy, Clarry, Harmes, Tracc, Salem a bit of Melk (part time) a raw but developing Dunkley.  Add two classy outsiders to assist Harmes.  Maybe one more classy inside/outside mid who can kick goals on the run and hit targets coming inside.

The two concerns for mine Viney & Gus.  Both can be your biggest asset one quarter then major turnover kings the next.

Edited by Rusty Nails

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Deespicable said:

 I like Richo, but he's not the right man for us - his style is similar to Goody's  in that he likes his side to get the ball forward, but he's not coming in to work guys over on the training track at his age. 

Goody is 42, he's not a kid on training wheels that needs a new mentor to replace Macca. He needs quality 'next generation' coaches to spark things up at training and reduce the generational impasse between players and coaches.

We have just appointed Darren Burgess as fitness coach, which should be a good get, but he is over 50 and won't be doing most of the drills with the players - he's now too old for that. But he has years of experience and should know how to get blokes fit and have smarts in injury and load management.

We also have several ageing assistant coaches and by ageing I mean the following. Once coaches get into their 40s, they rarely have the physical capabilities to hammer, chase, pressure their younger colleagues. They have smarts, but eventually it's best to move them on into other roles or back into the coaching system at lower tiers - ammos and metro sides etc. 

Ruck coach Greg Stafford turns 45 in a few weeks.

Stoppage coach Ben Mathews is a ripper but he's 42 next year.

Forwards coach Jade Rawlings is about to turn 42 and he still is happy to have blokes body him at training, but he's not a young pup.

Midfield development Justin Plapp is also 42.

Backline coach Troy Chaplin is just 33.

Development coach Max Rooke is 37.

Player development coach Matthew Egan is 36.

So to me the most important gets now are two or three young assistants who can be hands-on at training - Jordy should be No.1 choice and there are others who have just retired and can impart knowledge and instantly have respect of their young players.

To me a really good tackling coach is high on the list - the Billy Slater role has worked at Saints this year, is there another Storm ex-player who we can snare to impart technical wisdom? 

Does anyone really care if our coaches are not near as fit and physically able as the players? They're not meant to be.

With age comes wisdom.

As the saying goes, youth is wasted on the young.

Edited by Moonshadow
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would take richo in a heartbeat.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Deespicable said:

 I like Richo, but he's not the right man for us - his style is similar to Goody's  in that he likes his side to get the ball forward, but he's not coming in to work guys over on the training track at his age. 

Goody is 42, he's not a kid on training wheels that needs a new mentor to replace Macca. He needs quality 'next generation' coaches to spark things up at training and reduce the generational impasse between players and coaches.

We have just appointed Darren Burgess as fitness coach, which should be a good get, but he is over 50 and won't be doing most of the drills with the players - he's now too old for that. But he has years of experience and should know how to get blokes fit and have smarts in injury and load management.

We also have several ageing assistant coaches and by ageing I mean the following. Once coaches get into their 40s, they rarely have the physical capabilities to hammer, chase, pressure their younger colleagues. They have smarts, but eventually it's best to move them on into other roles or back into the coaching system at lower tiers - ammos and metro sides etc. 

Ruck coach Greg Stafford turns 45 in a few weeks.

Stoppage coach Ben Mathews is a ripper but he's 42 next year.

Forwards coach Jade Rawlings is about to turn 42 and he still is happy to have blokes body him at training, but he's not a young pup.

Midfield development Justin Plapp is also 42.

Backline coach Troy Chaplin is just 33.

Development coach Max Rooke is 37.

Player development coach Matthew Egan is 36.

So to me the most important gets now are two or three young assistants who can be hands-on at training - Jordy should be No.1 choice and there are others who have just retired and can impart knowledge and instantly have respect of their young players.

To me a really good tackling coach is high on the list - the Billy Slater role has worked at Saints this year, is there another Storm ex-player who we can snare to impart technical wisdom? 

Rubbish

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Absolutely would go for Richo.

I reckon direct replacement for Macca. Head of Development.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pity we couldn’t get Ratten back a year or so ago. He knows the midfield so well. 

That said Richo would be a great asset. He beat us often as a coach

Most of them did including Brad Scott

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, dl4e said:

I would take richo in a heartbeat.

Ditto.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Social Media

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles

    HOW FAR SOUTH? by George on the Outer

    It was appropriate that Melbourne was playing its last game of season 2019 in Hobart.  After all, how much further south could the team go? And much as it has done in many of the previous 22 games, the side managed to extract a loss from a winning position by simply giving the ball back to the opposition time and time again. In fact, they gave it back to the opposition to the tune of 53 points from turnovers while, by way of contrast North Melbourne contributed  only 17 points to their oppo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    COOKED by The Oracle

    I can vividly remember when the Demons ventured onto Blundstone Arena for the first time in early 2016 only to lose to the Kangaroos by 20.11.131 to 21.10.136.    Melbourne was then a team on the up and up: young, enthusiastic and bold. It gave up a huge quarter time deficit after kicking against a strong wind but made that up by half time and fell dramatically short after an exciting high scoring affair.  The team lost no fans that day - they were willing to take the game on and attac

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    HELP by KC rom Casey

    The Casey Demons finished off their home and away season against Frankston at Skybus Stadium on Sunday with a narrow, unconvincing 6-point victory that left the door slightly open for a top eight berth when the VFL finals begin in a fortnight’s time. While sunny skies prevailed over Frankston in the morning, the skies became overcast by noon and heavy waves pounded the bay nearby as the rains came in to greet the players as the game started. And conditions stayed dark and dreary for the rem

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    THANKS BUT NO THANKS by George on the Outer

    Thanks, but no thanks! In a round where the club was supposed to thank their fans for the support during the year, the Melbourne Football Club chose to do otherwise with a 53 point loss to a team that sat 15th on the ladder.  Don’t give us cheap jumpers that can’t be sold in the Demon shop.  Don’t give us vouchers to shop there, give us something on the field, which is why we come to the football in the first place. It was a disgraceful performance, which started with a disgracefu

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    SLEEP OUT AT THE MCG by The Oracle

    Around about 12 months ago Melbourne and Sydney fought out an epic battle between two top eight teams fighting for the best possible ladder position in the lead up to the finals. The Swans triumphed by 9 points at the MCG after the Demons came back from five goals down at three quarter time. But for its poor kicking for goal, Melbourne might well have won the game and finished in the top four. Who knows what might then have happened for the club in September? As a consequence, the person re

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    A LITTLE RAY OF SUNSHINE by KC from Casey

    Two clubs that have been hard hit by injury recently took part in a dour battle under dark clouds and, with intermittent showers falling, it wasn’t a pretty game at Victoria Park on Sunday. Despite all that, the Casey Demons added a little ray of sunshine to their day to get the job done over a "traditional" rival with a 15 point victory over Collingwood VFL that breathed life back into their season. There were a few highlights at the ground that in past days has seen many titanic batt

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    THE RETRO ROUND by George on the Outer

    We have seen it all before… Yes, a wonderful idea to showcase what used to be in football.  Big crowds, umpires who knew how to apply the rules and not opinions, high marks, skilful players. But for the Melbourne supporters their retro is what it has been like for the past 10 years. Losing games, end on end, year after year.  Opportunities squandered in front of goal. VFL standard players running around at the MCG. Just more of the same, and the game against Collingwood was no ex

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE PEOPLE SPEAK by The Demonland Crew

    Thanks to Demonlanders for their input into this week’s preview. Ralphius Maximus is short and bittersweet: We'll crack in at the bounce to create a contest, win our share of the ball, butcher the forward movement and get scored on easily from the intercepts. Not that hard to predict. Big Demon says: Unfortunately Collingwood will win because they have a lot more to play for. We will be good in parts but really the season is well over so we will have to put up with those bell

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    WHAT, NO BLOOD? by George on the Outer

    The feeling when turning up to the MCG on a Saturday night to play a top four side in Richmond, while the Melbourne sits cemented in close proximity to the bottom of the table is like attending the Colosseum in Ancient Roman times. The expectation is that a bloodbath is about to occur. There are 100,000 Richmond members and 50,000 Melbourne members, and despite the fact that it turned out to be a wet night after half-time, a crowd of only 37K bothered to turn up. That should never have happ

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    A MAN’S ERRAND by KC from Casey

    A young and undermanned Casey Demons were sent out on Saturday to the Swinburne Centre in the shadows of the MCG on a man’s errand against a very experienced Richmond VFL combination which is the clear ladder leader and fielded no less than 18 AFL listed players. It was expected to be a rout and the Tigers made easy work of it in the early stages when they held a 26 point lead by quarter time. To their credit however, the Demons weathered the storm and kept their opponents within the range

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    THAT’S FOOTBALL by Whispering Jack

    As the season rolls on towards the finals and the football world witnesses the aftermath of the sacking of the league’s unsuccessful coaches, it’s almost  inevitable that the spotlight will turn firmly upon the complete and utter failure of season 2019 - the Melbourne Football Club.  For a team that finished in fourth place last year and was heavily touted as a premiership contender, the fall from grace has been dramatic. As things stand, the Demons look certain to finish 13 places down on

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE MOMENT OF TRUTH IS COMING by KC from Casey

    At half time in Sunday’s game at Trevor Barker Beach Oval, things weren’t looking too flash for the flailing finals prospects of the Casey Demons. Key forward Sam Weideman had suffered a concussion in his first contest and, with a few exceptions, the team was playing like a rabble rather than a finals contender. The Demons were 23 points in arrears to the Zebras and their season was headed towards oblivion. It was the skipper Mitch White who spurred his team on by word and by deed - he fini

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

×
×
  • Create New...