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Agree that the “standard published stats” suggest he did very little but there were numerous pressure moments and shepherds that are available to some that no doubt show things differently.   
Sure, by his standards, he may have had a quiet one, but he still did the team things and absolutely helped get us there. 
About to watch the full replay again. 

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Thanks for posting, dazzle.

As Biff alluded to, this is just amazing stuff from a small forward relatively new to AFL level.

Somewhere I saw a comparison with Cyril and Eddie at the same stages of their careers, and Kozzie is well ahead of them.

His goal sense and breakaway speed, and reading of the fall of the ball is something rarely seen.

Broooose would be drooling over his every moment.

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On 9/14/2021 at 3:32 PM, JTR said:

Dr D said he was no good though.

Think he said the same thing about Jackson for that matter.

What/who do I believe?????????   

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Where is this troll DR D, just vanished when the team did not fall out of the top 4, oh did he boast saying he Knows better. Was it dr d who said you can't compare kossie to Liam Ryan because Liam's a superstar, and kossie was hopeless.

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On 10/3/2021 at 9:10 PM, monoccular said:

Thanks for posting, dazzle.

As Biff alluded to, this is just amazing stuff from a small forward relatively new to AFL level.

Somewhere I saw a comparison with Cyril and Eddie at the same stages of their careers, and Kozzie is well ahead of them.

His goal sense and breakaway speed, and reading of the fall of the ball is something rarely seen.

Broooose would be drooling over his every moment.

Yeah, thanks @dazzledavey36; I did have a spare 20, easy to find in Premiers2021land.

Such a pleasure to watch where he is in the lead-up to his goals, knowing he's going to get it; I was struck by his sense, read and speed getting to the fall of the ball, sometimes from well away from the drop.

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1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

CONGRATULATIONS KOZZY!

50th game this Saturday!

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50 games and a Birthday in the same week.  Hope he snags a triple with a win!

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27 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/misc_players.html

A win this weekend would mean Pickett goes ahead of Selwood as the 'most winningest' player in the AFL (with more than 50 games as the cut-off).

 

 

 

Having a look at that table, you have to feel for Ted Hall who played for St Kilda about 120 years ago.  He played in 73 VFL games and won one.

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Was one of the best individual displays I've seen alongside Gawns 5 in a preliminary. 

I'll continue to pump up this kid as long as i want, but his numbers right now against some of the best small forwards I've seen such as Betts, Milne, C Rioli blows them out of the water at similar age.

Jeff Farmer was my absolutely hero growing up and never thought I'd ever see another one as unique as he was. But these highlights below just gives me flashbacks.

Scary to think he's only just turned 21..

 

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I do wonder what he wants to be. Does he want to move into the midfield? He can do whatever. 

If he is happy ‘being Cyril’ then he is someone to build around and complement - he is that good.

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On 6/30/2022 at 12:00 PM, Bimbo said:

Having a look at that table, you have to feel for Ted Hall who played for St Kilda about 120 years ago.  He played in 73 VFL games and won one.

Thanks @Little Goffy and aren't they a great read, Bim?

Scrolling further down, it turns out Sunday's team was the most experienced ever fielded by the MFC, with a total 2705 games. Thanks Bowser>Tommo / Clarry>Melky? 😉

(22/23 players vs the old 20 also helps of course...)

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2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Was one of the best individual displays I've seen alongside Gawns 5 in a preliminary. 

I'll continue to pump up this kid as long as i want, but his numbers right now against some of the best small forwards I've seen such as Betts, Milne, C Rioli blows them out of the water at similar age.

Jeff Farmer was my absolutely hero growing up and never thought I'd ever see another one as unique as he was. But these highlights below just gives me flashbacks.

Scary to think he's only just turned 21..

 

It was a fantastic performance, one of many more to come i hope.

I am curious though, what was behind this performance because it was not expected. Tactically, i dont think there was much difference in our gamestyle from prior weeks. Was it luck, role change or a bit more effort on gameday? Whatever it was we have to make sure he continues with this as it will then take the focus of opposition coaches and give us the ability to exploit our medium and talls a bit more. 

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4 minutes ago, CYB said:

It was a fantastic performance, one of many more to come i hope.

I am curious though, what was behind this performance because it was not expected. Tactically, i dont think there was much difference in our gamestyle from prior weeks. Was it luck, role change or a bit more effort on gameday? Whatever it was we have to make sure he continues with this as it will then take the focus of opposition coaches and give us the ability to exploit our medium and talls a bit more. 

Sometimes you just have a day where everything just falls into place.

His form has been building for a few weeks now.

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It was a fantastic performance, one of many more to come i hope.

I am curious though, what was behind this performance because it was not expected. Tactically, i dont think there was much difference in our gamestyle from prior weeks. Was it luck, role change or a bit more effort on gameday? Whatever it was we have to make sure he continues with this as it will then take the focus of opposition coaches and give us the ability to exploit our medium and talls a bit more. 

I thought he became more of a focal point going forward as the game went on, a few players including Trac actively looked for him going I50 instead of bombing it over his head to try to get a crumb. He actually makes very good leads week in week out but gets ignored regularly

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Just had a look at some Eddie Betts comparisons to King Kozzie... 

It took Eddie 7 years in the system to kick 6 goals vs KK at 3 years.. 

Eddie also averaged just over a goal a game for his first 4 years, vs KK at 1.6 goals per game. 

What a star and so humble. 

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/E/Eddie_Betts.html#teamp

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1 hour ago, stynewillalwaysbeonthevine said:

Just had a look at some Eddie Betts comparisons to King Kozzie... 

It took Eddie 7 years in the system to kick 6 goals vs KK at 3 years.. 

Eddie also averaged just over a goal a game for his first 4 years, vs KK at 1.6 goals per game. 

What a star and so humble. 

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/E/Eddie_Betts.html#teamp

gets lost in the wash so to speak. One thing is clear, is that we have some weapons in there that are poorly utilised. 

If there is one thing we have to work on its our forward 50 connection. It also doesnt help when we transition the ball slowly, but i thought the speed of our ball movement was a better despite the poor efficiency (but thats why you need to train and play it a bit more as it takes time to hone in). 

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1 hour ago, stynewillalwaysbeonthevine said:

Just had a look at some Eddie Betts comparisons to King Kozzie... 

It took Eddie 7 years in the system to kick 6 goals vs KK at 3 years.. 

Eddie also averaged just over a goal a game for his first 4 years, vs KK at 1.6 goals per game. 

What a star and so humble. 

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/E/Eddie_Betts.html#teamp

On this sort of analysis you'd have to say Jack Ginnivan is a champ (JG vs KP) - averages per game in career

kicks 7.8 v 6.9
marks 3.2 v 2.1
goals 1.8 v 1.3

I don't think anyone here would do a swap for Ginnivan btw


 



 

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1 hour ago, stynewillalwaysbeonthevine said:

Just had a look at some Eddie Betts comparisons to King Kozzie... 

It took Eddie 7 years in the system to kick 6 goals vs KK at 3 years.. 

Eddie also averaged just over a goal a game for his first 4 years, vs KK at 1.6 goals per game. 

What a star and so humble. 

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/E/Eddie_Betts.html#teamp

I found it strange that a retiring Eddie Betts was lauded as GOAT small forward.  I saw wee Jeffery kick 9 goals (all after half time) against the Pies in 200?.  That is the benchmark but just half of that would be luxury.

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28 minutes ago, Sydee said:

On this sort of analysis you'd have to say Jack Ginnivan is a champ (JG vs KP) - averages per game in career

kicks 7.8 v 6.9
marks 3.2 v 2.1
goals 1.8 v 1.3

I don't think anyone here would do a swap for Ginnivan btw


 



 

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3 minutes ago, redandbluemakepurple said:

I found it strange that a retiring Eddie Betts was lauded as GOAT small forward.  I saw wee Jeffery kick 9 goals (all after half time) against the Pies in 200?.  That is the benchmark but just half of that would be luxury.

Only thing that stopped Jeff Farmer from being one of the absolute great forward pockets of the game was him passing off to Freo.

Was never the same player.

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