POSTGAME: Rd 18 vs West Coast Eagles

[Farmer 680]

Just now, Farmer said:

"Our backline is fully stocked"  But 4 of them are half fit at best. They have barely played together all season . And some weeks none of May, Lever, Jetta and Hibberd were unavailable. Of course they have not yet meshed

And just to add to the above. That is why Fritsch had to play back for so many weeks.

secondly, when our stars were all up and running last year, some ordinary players looked ok. Oscar played a number of good games, ANB was pretty good, even Spargo held a place in a prelim final team. Hannan was often excellent.

when the stars are missing the second and third tier players look v different 

 

 

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

My only wish is that one day (hopefully sooner rather than later), good players from other clubs look at Melbourne and think, "Hey, I would love to play for that team. They are really going places and are on the way up. I could enjoy some success with them."

Is this ever going to happen? ? (In my lifetime?)

[Engorged Onion 9,239]

7 hours ago, Farmer said:

And just to add to the above. That is why Fritsch had to play back for so many weeks.

secondly, when our stars were all up and running last year, some ordinary players looked ok. Oscar played a number of good games, ANB was pretty good, even Spargo held a place in a prelim final team. Hannan was often excellent.

when the stars are missing the second and third tier players look v different 

 

 

stop making sense.

[Engorged Onion 9,239]

7 hours ago, Dame Gaga said:

My only wish is that one day (hopefully sooner rather than later), good players from other clubs look at Melbourne and think, "Hey, I would love to play for that team. They are really going places and are on the way up. I could enjoy some success with them."

Is this ever going to happen? ? (In my lifetime?)

Lever, May, Lewis...er MITCH CLARK?

[Stretch Johnson 2,568]

Statistically is is absolutely an aberration.  And Lyonbhas waited till the season was far enough gone that we couldn't turn it around.

He's not exactly sticking his neck out.

The thing i find amusing is that we are actually playing some reasonable footy and i would say that our form is on the up for the first time this season.

The strategic concern is now how do we prove that we have a good list that is worthy of attracting an Ed Langdon and a good small forward.

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

1 hour ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Statistically is is absolutely an aberration.  And Lyonbhas waited till the season was far enough gone that we couldn't turn it around.

He's not exactly sticking his neck out.

The thing i find amusing is that we are actually playing some reasonable footy and i would say that our form is on the up for the first time this season.

The strategic concern is now how do we prove that we have a good list that is worthy of attracting an Ed Langdon and a good small forward.

Langdon plays for Freo, surely we're much more attractive? Our game style will suit him much better. I'm not a draft expert but there's been a lot of good mature age small forwards plucked from state leagues lately, so we could add a couple who might be able to make a difference quickly.

You're right about our form being on the up, given we don't really have a forward line it's been good to see how competitive we've been. You wouldn't know it on here though, I could have sworn we lost by 100 reading on here Sunday night

[Jaded No More 57,674]

9 hours ago, Farmer said:

"Our backline is fully stocked"  But 4 of them are half fit at best. They have barely played together all season . And some weeks none of May, Lever, Jetta and Hibberd were unavailable. Of course they have not yet meshed

I literally said this in my post. Did you stop reading about this sentence? 

I said they needed time to play together and that Lever and Jetta both are not fit. 

It was not passing judgement on the backline, it was merely an observation that while our backline is all on the field finally, it isn’t performing to the level we would like due to the above. 

[waynewussell 4,081]

Haven't yet noticed any commentator, footy program or member of the MFC football dept. explain the holding the ball decision made against Max. Why is that? If it was a free kick according to the rules wouldn't an ambitious member of the (football) media want to impress the public with his/her astute reading of the rules? Its been relatively quiet on that front, while other contentious decisions from the weekend have been discussed on every program. If it was a shocker by the umpire in question, wouldn't the AFL come out and admit that a mistake was made... or vica versa? All quiet on that front as well... I have an opinion on this silent response by media and officials, but I would like to hear what others think.

[Deemania since 56 6,122]

On 7/21/2019 at 8:20 PM, Rusty Nails said:

Possibly a bit to do with that Shorty (HP fitness & conditioning ...Misson?).

Add a very poor forward list that can't convert in front of goal (excluding Fritschkreig who played his first game as a genuine forward for most of the match...until he began playing a HHF role late in the game and became less effective); and

Goody's obsession in persisting with the manic chaos game for the entire match = inevitable major fatigue fail / intensity drop = opposition coming over the top FTW.

Agreed, and in addition, Clarrie is asked to do too much week in, week out. May he receive our blessings for the workload and application that he provides for the first three quarters, week in, week out. 

[jnrmac 18,914]

1 hour ago, waynewussell said:

Haven't yet noticed any commentator, footy program or member of the MFC football dept. explain the holding the ball decision made against Max. Why is that? If it was a free kick according to the rules wouldn't an ambitious member of the (football) media want to impress the public with his/her astute reading of the rules? Its been relatively quiet on that front, while other contentious decisions from the weekend have been discussed on every program. If it was a shocker by the umpire in question, wouldn't the AFL come out and admit that a mistake was made... or vica versa? All quiet on that front as well... I have an opinion on this silent response by media and officials, but I would like to hear what others think.

Well the AFL have come out and said that two fend off decisions in the ruck were wrong - 1 for Ben Brown and 1 in the Lions game -  but no comment on Max's infringement ("That's ruck craft big boy") 

yet again clubs squeal about decisions and you don't hear a peep from melbourne about stupid decisions against our players. We are really soft when it comes to sticking up for the club.

[loges 6,002]

12 hours ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Langdon plays for Freo, surely we're much more attractive? Our game style will suit him much better. I'm not a draft expert but there's been a lot of good mature age small forwards plucked from state leagues lately, so we could add a couple who might be able to make a difference quickly.

You're right about our form being on the up, given we don't really have a forward line it's been good to see how competitive we've been. You wouldn't know it on here though, I could have sworn we lost by 100 reading on here Sunday night

Many during the week predict we'll get smashed by 10 goals. We lead into the last quarter, lose by just over 2 goals courtesy of an opposition goal from the worst decision of the game, lose Viney by half time , we're playing the reigning premiers and people still come on here and smash the coach and/or the team. Where is the perspective ?

[Winners at last 4,695]

6 minutes ago, loges said:

Many during the week predict we'll get smashed by 10 goals. We lead into the last quarter, lose by just over 2 goals courtesy of an opposition goal from the worst decision of the game, lose Viney by half time , we're playing the reigning premiers and people still come on here and smash the coach and/or the team. Where is the perspective ?

5 - 12

[loges 6,002]

2 minutes ago, bingers said:

5 - 12

What's that got to do with the weekends game.

[Winners at last 4,695]

34 minutes ago, loges said:

 

 

Edited July 23, 2019 by bingers

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

41 minutes ago, loges said:

Many during the week predict we'll get smashed by 10 goals. We lead into the last quarter, lose by just over 2 goals courtesy of an opposition goal from the worst decision of the game, lose Viney by half time , we're playing the reigning premiers and people still come on here and smash the coach and/or the team. Where is the perspective ?

I hate those fat head Weasles, I mean Eagles. Huge egos all of them. If I recall some Melbourne players were bagged earlier in the season for over celebrating. Did anyone see Yeo go all over the top when he kicked that goal, after he did nothing else all day? Just want Melbourne to one day beat these big heads. They had their chances on Sunday. That's what makes losing so disappointing.

[Earl Hood 5,787]

2 hours ago, waynewussell said:

Haven't yet noticed any commentator, footy program or member of the MFC football dept. explain the holding the ball decision made against Max. Why is that? If it was a free kick according to the rules wouldn't an ambitious member of the (football) media want to impress the public with his/her astute reading of the rules? Its been relatively quiet on that front, while other contentious decisions from the weekend have been discussed on every program. If it was a shocker by the umpire in question, wouldn't the AFL come out and admit that a mistake was made... or vica versa? All quiet on that front as well... I have an opinion on this silent response by media and officials, but I would like to hear what others think.

I think it is because we have become irrelevant again as someone else has said. 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,925]

Another MRO outcome based on the media. There was nothing about Tom Barrass giving Viney concussion yet had it of been Steven May doing the same actions and giving someone concussion i have no doubt he would have got a week.

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after disposing of the football Barrass is met by Viney and braces for contact. It was the view of the MRO that Barrass did not elect to bump Viney

 

 

 

[Dr. Gonzo 22,399]

2 hours ago, waynewussell said:

Haven't yet noticed any commentator, footy program or member of the MFC football dept. explain the holding the ball decision made against Max. Why is that? If it was a free kick according to the rules wouldn't an ambitious member of the (football) media want to impress the public with his/her astute reading of the rules? Its been relatively quiet on that front, while other contentious decisions from the weekend have been discussed on every program. If it was a shocker by the umpire in question, wouldn't the AFL come out and admit that a mistake was made... or vica versa? All quiet on that front as well... I have an opinion on this silent response by media and officials, but I would like to hear what others think.

Take your pick from our game. Players blocked off the ball, players ducking their heads and no holding the ball called even though the rule states it's deemed prior opportunity, Lockhart copping it high while already in a tackle and getting called holding the ball, max getting called holding the ball etc etc

[Demon Dynasty 15,211]

10 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Agreed, and in addition, Clarrie is asked to do too much week in, week out. May he receive our blessings for the workload and application that he provides for the first three quarters, week in, week out. 

Amen to that 56.  Albeit a fair way off the same ferocity / intensity and 2nd efforts of Clarry, we can add Harmes, Big M and Salem into that category.

Big gap between them and the rest this year.  Mega drop off for some.

[Demon Dynasty 15,211]

8 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Another MRO outcome based on the media. There was nothing about Tom Barrass giving Viney concussion yet had it of been Steven May doing the same actions and giving someone concussion i have no doubt he would have got a week.

 

 

 

I stopped listening to the 7 commentary after the Swans game when it was clear they only wanted one team to win on the night.

Completely biased towards the top / interstate clubs and, outside of Carey,  they all pander to the AFL's favoured club/player agenda when it comes to poor umpiring decisions.

Is Carey still on there?  Be very surprised if his contract gets renewed.  Mao Tse Gill would be on to him in a flash.  His inappropriate comrade speak from earlier this season might have been shut down already!

[Demon Dynasty 15,211]

8 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Another MRO outcome based on the media. There was nothing about Tom Barrass giving Viney concussion yet had it of been Steven May doing the same actions and giving someone concussion i have no doubt he would have got a week.

 

 

 

Thats a disgraceful but predictable "interstate / Top 4 Vic club biased outcome".  Another Mao Tse Gill endorsed special.

If the club says / does nothing about that then we stand for absolutely nothing and may as well pack our bags.