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21 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

don't forget Newman

I have my very own opinion on him. I wont say it on here.

5 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Absolutely!!!!! What a bunch of grubs.  

How can McGuire walk through a football club after that and speak integrity.. he is a joke

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Funny how the loudest voices belong to the fattest whitest most privileged men. 

A sad reflection of our society and its tendency to stick its head in the sand when it comes to looking in the mirror and acknowledging your wrongness. 

Imagine if this was happening to Jetta. What an utter disgrace this period was, and how heartbreaking that Goodes retired under this cloud of racism instead of with the grand celebration his career deserved. 

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30 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

don't forget Newman

You have to shake your head with the Fossil, Sam. At one point he lists the various days celebrating minorities like the indigenous or same sex people and then asks as a WASP male when is it my time!

Sam when it has never been your time you dolt! Look at your life, private school education, 300 games of elite sport, millions earned in the media as a so called footy expert and character, come sporting legend. Sam it has always been about you! For a guy who achieved so much he has the IQ of a peanut. 

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43 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Eddie McGuire, Miranda Devine, Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones can all go and rot in hell.

Bunch of oxygen thiefs

There is a special place in hell reserved for these people.

 

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An excellent, thought-provoking documentary. If people haven't seen it, I strongly recommend they do. While it's clearly football-related, it's the bigger picture about society, privilege and those that have a voice and how they use (or mis-use) it, that's most interesting.

And it's probably worth pointing out that while there are some people  mainly in the media - who come out of this badly, there are a few who deserve to be recognised for the positive roles they played. I'm not normally his greatest fan, but Mark Robinson was terrific as was Kelly Underwood. And possibly not properly noticed was Luke Darcy trying to stop Eddie McGuire from making a fool of himself. 

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Adam Goodes you are an all round Champion person your doings are invaluable and lead by example for the cause. 

You are a  certainly a credit to society.

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1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

An excellent, thought-provoking documentary. If people haven't seen it, I strongly recommend they do. While it's clearly football-related, it's the bigger picture about society, privilege and those that have a voice and how they use (or mis-use) it, that's most interesting.

And it's probably worth pointing out that while there are some people  mainly in the media - who come out of this badly, there are a few who deserve to be recognised for the positive roles they played. I'm not normally his greatest fan, but Mark Robinson was terrific as was Kelly Underwood. And possibly not properly noticed was Luke Darcy trying to stop Eddie McGuire from making a fool of himself. 

I can’t stand Robbo but to give him credit he was right on this one and was strong on it from the start. Well done Robbo

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1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

An excellent, thought-provoking documentary. If people haven't seen it, I strongly recommend they do. While it's clearly football-related, it's the bigger picture about society, privilege and those that have a voice and how they use (or mis-use) it, that's most interesting.

And it's probably worth pointing out that while there are some people  mainly in the media - who come out of this badly, there are a few who deserve to be recognised for the positive roles they played. I'm not normally his greatest fan, but Mark Robinson was terrific as was Kelly Underwood. And possibly not properly noticed was Luke Darcy trying to stop Eddie McGuire from making a fool of himself. 

Agree,

I have had no issues with him ever but Mark Robinson take a bloody bow! From day dot he was such a strong supporter for Goodesy and loved how he stood up to Nathan Buckley. 

Did anyone notice the hypocrisy from Buckley? Mentioned that we shouldnt be speaking about the booing of Goodes and tried to sweep it under the carpet, yet gets up on Anazac day match ceremony and has a sook that we shouldn't be booing a champion in Pendlebury..

[censored] off Buckley! Collingwood.. what a club hey.

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14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

How can McGuire walk through a football club after that and speak integrity.. he is a joke

It's well known of people with enormous ego and limited principle, that when they look over their shoulder and notice the adoring hordes have gone off in a different direction, they dash over to the head of said horde, and shout "follow me!"

 

Now Eddie's going to lecture his son's school in how to be racist not racist. Professor McGuire, Nobel peace prize winner.

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12 hours ago, Demonsone said:

I guess when you haven’t experience racial abuse you don’t know any better & are ignorant. Just don’t know why these  commentators just want accept facts 

I get what you’re saying, but just because you haven’t experienced something personally doesn’t mean you shouldn’t know better. 

Nobody has ever attacked my sexual orientation but I know it’s wrong. Nobody has ever abused me for having dark skin, but I know it’s wrong. 

In this day and age to pretend that people “didn’t know” booing Goodes was racially motivated is just a cop out. 

Like someone said in the documentary last night, we want these indigenous players to kick mercurial goals and shut up. I don’t see anyone booing Houli for speaking about his cultural heritage, but as soon as Goodes pointed out the racial vilification and used his platform to try and promote indigenous rights, he was attacked. Not for a week, or a month, but for almost 2 years until it broke him and he had to give up everything he has worked for and walk away. 

 

Sorry I don’t mean to attack you at all with this post. I know exactly what you mean. I just think that too often people say “I didn’t know” and think it’s a valid excuse. Lots of Germans said the same thing about the Holocaust too. 

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17 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I get what you’re saying, but just because you haven’t experienced something personally doesn’t mean you shouldn’t know better. 

Nobody has ever attacked my sexual orientation but I know it’s wrong. Nobody has ever abused me for having dark skin, but I know it’s wrong. 

In this day and age to pretend that people “didn’t know” booing Goodes was racially motivated is just a cop out. 

Like someone said in the documentary last night, we want these indigenous players to kick mercurial goals and shut up. I don’t see anyone booing Houli for speaking about his cultural heritage, but as soon as Goodes pointed out the racial vilification and used his platform to try and promote indigenous rights, he was attacked. Not for a week, or a month, but for almost 2 years until it broke him and he had to give up everything he has worked for and walk away. 

 

Sorry I don’t mean to attack you at all with this post. I know exactly what you mean. I just think that too often people say “I didn’t know” and think it’s a valid excuse. Lots of Germans said the same thing about the Holocaust too. 

Can't "like" this enough. Well said.

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9 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

An excellent, thought-provoking documentary. If people haven't seen it, I strongly recommend they do. While it's clearly football-related, it's the bigger picture about society, privilege and those that have a voice and how they use (or mis-use) it, that's most interesting.

And it's probably worth pointing out that while there are some people  mainly in the media - who come out of this badly, there are a few who deserve to be recognised for the positive roles they played. I'm not normally his greatest fan, but Mark Robinson was terrific as was Kelly Underwood. And possibly not properly noticed was Luke Darcy trying to stop Eddie McGuire from making a fool of himself. 

I have a new respect and admiration for Robbo, something I never thought would be happen!

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Very hard to say anything new at this point. I'm inclined to let the solid slice of people who were genuinely under some misconceptions about Goodes' own behaviour have their own quiet moment, rather than shout at them to 'change themselves' according to any set prescription.

I just wish there were better ways to cut the ties that allow the true-filth racists and just plain all-round-bstards to subtly drag other people along.

In the end, perhaps the most racist thing done to Adam Goodes was the effort made to slander and misrepresent him in order to rile people up against him.

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29 minutes ago, KLV said:

I have a new respect and admiration for Robbo, something I never thought would be happen!

That was the first time I'd ever heard him speak.  Does he always sound like he's spent the arvo in the pub?

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2 minutes ago, demonstone said:

That was the first time I'd ever heard him speak.  Does he always sound like he's spent the arvo in the pub?

Yes! 

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Haven't caught this yet, but will do. My favourite producer John Battsek (multiple Oscar winner) has also produced a new Adam Goodes doco THE AUSTRALIAN DREAM that Madman are theatrically releasing in the coming weeks. 

It'll be interesting to watch both films and see what they offer.

Darling's film THE FINAL QUARTER is what he is known for. Social impact docs that are philanthropically financed and should evoke debate and spotlight an issue/issues.

It's interesting that Goodes decided to be involved in two different documentaries about his life (at practically the same time), so I'd say they have different trajectories. Check out THE AUSTRALIAN DREAM too if you can.

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