Footscray v Casey Demons - Round 15

[dpositive 1,547]

Keilty can he kick it

 

[dazzledavey36 48,649]

Umpiring is horrible 

[dpositive 1,547]

We seem to always kick the ball high so opponents get plenty of time to number up.

[KC from Casey 6,484]

What a game from Corey Wagner.

3QT 

Casey 7.9 51 trail FootscrayVFL 11.6 72

Goals C Wagner 2 Baker 1, Bradtke 1, Lefau 1, Buxton-Wales 1, White 

Stats

Wagner 23 Baker 22 JKH Munro 20 Maynard 14

[whatwhat say what 18,793]

This maggoting is quite something...

[samcantstandya 913]

36 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

Size, speed and class of the dogs is hurting us. There are too many AFL listed players in good form and with serious AFL experience against a Casey side which has 6 players who have played AFL (Oscar, Oskar, Maynard, Corey, JKH, Keilty). It does not scream experienced. 

Oskar has been really good. He has looked like an AFL player in a VFL side. His run has been important and would be useful in the AFL side today. Looks like he could come in next week really easily. Best on for us by a mile now. The one twos he does are something that we dont have a lot of in our team other than maybe Salem. 

Jordan has been quiet on the disposal count in the last 2 quarters but he has had 9 tackles and his pressure acts around the ball will be quite high (not available on the app). I'd expect him to have a debut against the Swans or North in the final 2 rounds to see how he goes. Considering he is the youngest on our list - really good prospect. A little like Baker last year, you could see that it was there even though there were quiet games. 

Wagner - Does what he does. He is a very good footballer, and worth keeping around for another year and see what he can do for us. He is quick, can kick, and is smart. 

Bradke - Did nothing until a good mark in the final few minutes of the quarter. Such and nice mark and kick (goal) but he is a giraffe. Hopefully will develop over the next 3 years. 

JKH - I am feeling like he isn't having the impact that he should be. I assume tagged as he has had a lot of attention off the ball. 

Maynard - tagging job on Wallis and done a good job (9 touches) but Wallis has got forward and kicked 2 goals. 

McDonald - depending on how you see McDonald is how you see his game. You can focus on how he has lost a couple of contests badly, you can talk about how he is coaching out there, you can talk about him (or Hutchins) getting in each other's way, or you can talk about his clean disposal. Feels weeks away. 

Chandler and Bedford are the same person. They tackle and are never in positions to kick goals as they play too far up the ground. 

Corey or Josh??????I'm thinking Corey I'd wouldn't call Josh quick.

[binman 37,794]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 Stop trying to fine an excuse ro sink the boot in as always.

Not trying to pick an argument DD but given your relentless criticism of omac you don't find this comment somewhat hypocritical?

[Dee-licious 1,800]

A good hard fought end, but we couldn't get the chocolates. Yes the umpires were killing us, but the lack of polish by our VFL listed players really killed us. They are so good at tackling and being hard at it, but when they find themselves on the outside, there is a lot of turnovers.

O Baker – had a really good 2nd and 3rd quarter. His speed was really important today and the pace of Marvel and the Dogs meant that he stood out a little bit more. The most obvious one for a call up if needed. 

C Wagner – Another really good game. You can see why he is often the emergency or coming back into the AFL side, he owns VFL players and is too quick and big for them. His delivery inside 50 was fine, his finishing much better. I don't know where he fits in the AFL side though. Could he play on the wing and make an impact? Can he play Melksham's role? 

J Jordan – started like a house on fire and then was moved out of the guts in preference to Maynard, JKH and Wagner. You can see that he is getting to a lot of contests and often is being pushed aside by more experienced opponents. It I starting to come together and he will be a really nice player. His kicked is fantastic and he is a big tackler as well. You can see him and Baker on either wing and actually having an impact on a game in the AFL. 

McDonald – Good and bad. He looks so much better playing deep in the VFL as the final defender. His experience was really important down there. A couple of issues when him and Hutchins going up together and not working well enough as a team. He was swung forward with about 10 minutes to go in the match. We went to him a couple of times but not great entries. I don't really see forward craft here though. 

JKH had a lot of touches but was not influential the way Wagner, Baker and Jordan were. His game has so much to like about it, but it doesn't seem to translate to the AFL level because he doesn't get to play the in and under role. 

Maynard – started really slowly and made his way back into the game in the second half. He is a long way off the guy we had over the last 2 years who was a clearance beast. I really thought that we could see him come on this year but the injuries have seemed to cruel him. 

Keilty – Drunk’n said that he has no confidence and it shows. He marked beautifully and got into great positions, but 0.3 and all kickable says all you need to know. I really want to keep him around in the rookie list for another year as you can see he is developing nicely, but there are kicking issues that need to be worked out. 

Bedford and Chandler – they are the same player and you just want to see another 12 months to see where they get too. Great tackling game from both. They played that Spargo high half forward role for quite a lot of the game. Would have been nice to see them deep in the forward line more often to see their goal game. Bedford great crumbing goal. 

Bradke – 2 goals, there is a lot to like in here but he is too slight to really have an impact on the game and not good enough when it hits the ground to make up for it. As a positive, he marks well and kicks well. So there is a lot to work with there. 

[forever demons 1,797]

c wagner great game ,we got  beat but showed great effort ,very proud to watch them try so hard .they never gav up

 

[samcantstandya 913]

44 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Baker looks a class too good for this level.

JKH on the other hand has given his critics plenty of ammunition. That early miss, and then the refusal to have a crack and attempt a pass instead both costly.

Bradtke a fine mark and shows us how to kick straight as well. Well done.

JKH - bang bang that's y he's an inbetweener can't impose himself.

[forever demons 1,797]

I never usually worry about the umpires influence,but really ,destroyed us

[Demon Disciple 10,902]

Umps didn’t cost us the game, our woeful inaccuracy did.

[KC from Casey 6,484]

A late burst leaves Casey short by 7 points

Yakka/ Totally Workwear VFL

Casey Demons 1.3.9 4.5.29 7.9.51 10.13.73

Footscray 4.2.26 7.4.46 11.6.72 12.8.80

Goals 

Casey Demons Bradtke Wagner 2 Baker   Bedford Jordon Lefau Wale-Buxton  White

Footscray William 3 Dale Jong Scott Wallis 2 Hayes 

Best 

Casey Demons C Wagner Hutchins Kennedy Harris Munro Maynard Baker

Footscray Jong Morris Hayes Roberts Porter William

Statistics 

Oskar Baker 1 goal 14 kicks 12 handballs 26 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 105 dream team points  
Toby Bedford 1 goal 4 kicks 3 handballs 7 disposals 2 marks 7 tackles 58 dream team points  
Austin Bradkte 2 goals 2 kicks 2 handballs 4 disposals 1 mark 1 tackles 29 dream team points  
Jaxon Briggs 1 behind 4 kicks 6 handballs 10 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 46 dream team points  
Kade Chandler 8 kicks 1 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 52 dream team points  
Wayne Collis 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 2 marks 6 tackles 67 dream team points  
Tom Freeman 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 39 dream team points  
Mitch Gent 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 2 marks 1 tackles 33 dream team points  
Jack Hutchins 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 70 dream team points  
James Jordon 1 goal 1 behind 9 kicks 8 handballs 17 disposals 10 tackles 90 dream team points  
Declan Keilty 3 behinds 6 kicks 8 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 18 hit outs 71 dream team points  
Jay Kennedy Harris 1 behind 18 kicks 13 handballs 31 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 104 dream team points  
Mykelti Lefau 1 goal 2 behinds 7 kicks 4 handballs 11 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 66 dream team points  
Ariek Lual 3 kicks 3 handballs 6 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 25 dream team points 
Oscar McDonald 9 kicks 8 handballs 17 disposals 6 marks 1 tackle 65 dream team points 
Corey Maynard 13 kicks 12 handballs 25 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 89 dream team points 
James Munro 1 behind 9 kicks 20 handballs 29 disposals 1 mark 9 tackles 108 dream team points  
Aiden Quigley 1 behind 4 kicks 5 handballs 9 disposals 1 mark 8 tackles 59 dream team points
Cory Stockdale 9 kicks 9 handballs 18 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 76 dream team points 
Luke Tynan 8 kicks 8 handballs 16 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 56 dream team points 
Corey Wagner 2 goals 21 kicks 9 handballs 30 disposals 2 marks 11 tackles 131 dream team points  
Liam Wale-Buxton 1 goal 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 1 marks 1 tackles 33 hit outs 79 dream team points  
Mitch White 1 goal 5 kicks 6 kicks 11 handballs 4 disposals 4 marks tackles 63 dream team points  

[DeeZone 7,670]

Thanks KC how did we get so close. Look forward to your summation. I missed the last quarter.!!!!!

[dazzledavey36 48,649]

22 minutes ago, binman said:

Not trying to pick an argument DD but given your relentless criticism of omac you don't find this comment somewhat hypocritical?

Bin i will stick up for our young kids who are relatively raw and no AFL experience. Especially when they are 1st and 2ntd year players

Twice in the game Oscar was outbodied by a more smaller opponent who are around the 185cm. Had no sense of urgency and it was pathetic from an experienced 71 games 5 year AFL defender who should be eating these no name VFL forwards.

Sorry but on todays effort he wont be seeing any AFL game time anytime soon.

[dazzledavey36 48,649]

Meanwhile Jimmy Jordon reminds me a lot of Bernie Vince. Uses it really well and is a smooth mover.

17 disposal 10 tackles 1 goal is another good developing game from Jordon.

[Demon Dynasty 15,212]

Forward options non-existent.  Especially tall strong marking options.  Our list forward of centre at Casey is being crunched from all the injuries/poor form up top at the moment.

Add to that some really ordinary decision making and entries inside 50 from mids & HHFs and you have a seconds team that very much reflects the woes of the seniors, with some of the worst conversion % on inside 50 dominance  you could ever imagine.

The list needs a solid clean out with class on the outside mid field, Key talls who can pack/overhead mark and finish.  And a few quality speedster crumbers who know where the goals are.

Get used to more of the same wasted inside 50 dominance in 2020 and a waste of some decent talent remaining within the present list if "The Fix" doesn"t take place.

[Earl Hood 5,787]

A AFL team looking for a rookie ruckman could do worse than look at Buxton. Nice goal and looks to move well for a big bloke. Not sure how tall he is though, 200cm? 

[Neil Crompton 4,676]

3 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

A AFL team looking for a rookie ruckman could do worse than look at Buxton. Nice goal and looks to move well for a big bloke. Not sure how tall he is though, 200cm? 

I think he could develop as a good full forward for us if we were to select him

[spirit of norm smith 12,843]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Meanwhile Jimmy Jordon reminds me a lot of Bernie Vince. Uses it really well and is a smooth mover.

17 disposal 10 tackles 1 goal is another good developing game from Jordon.

Agree. He stays at Casey to develop. Still a kid but I like his skill, smarts, pace and endeavour. 

[binman 37,794]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Bin i will stick up for our young kids who are relatively raw and no AFL experience. Especially when they are 1st and 2ntd year players

Twice in the game Oscar was outbodied by a more smaller opponent who are around the 185cm. Had no sense of urgency and it was pathetic from an experienced 71 games 5 year AFL defender who should be eating these no name VFL forwards.

Sorry but on todays effort he wont be seeing any AFL game time anytime soon.

But you've made your position on omac crystal clear and made the above points hundreds of times. Nor a single poster on demonland would not know your view on omac.

So why kerp sinking the boots in. Why keep bagging him.

I could care less about Elegt's comments. You are  spot on, he is a troll. But you aren't and i respect your opinion as I understand from your posting history. I can't understand how you can bag elegy and continue to bag omac so vociferously. It has a strange personal element.

[dazzledavey36 48,649]

4 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree. He stays at Casey to develop. Still a kid but I like his skill, smarts, pace and endeavour. 

The calls for him to be playing AFL is still premature. 

People forget he is currently the youngest AFL player in the league. Let him continue his game at Casey to develop his tank but also contested side.

[dazzledavey36 48,649]

3 minutes ago, binman said:

But you've made your position on omac crystal clear and made the above points hundreds of times. Nor a single poster on demonland would not know your view on omac.

So why kerp sinking the boots in. Why keep bagging him.

I could care less about Elegt's comments. You are  spot on, he is a troll. But you aren't and i respect your opinion as I understand from your posting history. I can't understand how you can bag elegy and continue to bag omac so vociferously. It has a strange personal element.

We'll agree to disagree mate. 

Lets enjoy whats currently going on st Marvel.

[spirit of norm smith 12,843]

From today’s game, only Corey Wagner should be elevated. He should replace either Anb or Hannan. I’d keep Dunkley in to see how he goes. 

Jkh is not really quite up to AFL in terms of delivery and intensity.  

[Queanbeyan Demon 5,884]

3 hours ago, Dee-licious said:

A good hard fought end, but we couldn't get the chocolates. Yes the umpires were killing us, but the lack of polish by our VFL listed players really killed us. They are so good at tackling and being hard at it, but when they find themselves on the outside, there is a lot of turnovers.

O Baker – had a really good 2nd and 3rd quarter. His speed was really important today and the pace of Marvel and the Dogs meant that he stood out a little bit more. The most obvious one for a call up if needed. 

C Wagner – Another really good game. You can see why he is often the emergency or coming back into the AFL side, he owns VFL players and is too quick and big for them. His delivery inside 50 was fine, his finishing much better. I don't know where he fits in the AFL side though. Could he play on the wing and make an impact? Can he play Melksham's role? 

J Jordan – started like a house on fire and then was moved out of the guts in preference to Maynard, JKH and Wagner. You can see that he is getting to a lot of contests and often is being pushed aside by more experienced opponents. It I starting to come together and he will be a really nice player. His kicked is fantastic and he is a big tackler as well. You can see him and Baker on either wing and actually having an impact on a game in the AFL. 

McDonald – Good and bad. He looks so much better playing deep in the VFL as the final defender. His experience was really important down there. A couple of issues when him and Hutchins going up together and not working well enough as a team. He was swung forward with about 10 minutes to go in the match. We went to him a couple of times but not great entries. I don't really see forward craft here though. 

JKH had a lot of touches but was not influential the way Wagner, Baker and Jordan were. His game has so much to like about it, but it doesn't seem to translate to the AFL level because he doesn't get to play the in and under role. 

Maynard – started really slowly and made his way back into the game in the second half. He is a long way off the guy we had over the last 2 years who was a clearance beast. I really thought that we could see him come on this year but the injuries have seemed to cruel him. 

Keilty – Drunk’n said that he has no confidence and it shows. He marked beautifully and got into great positions, but 0.3 and all kickable says all you need to know. I really want to keep him around in the rookie list for another year as you can see he is developing nicely, but there are kicking issues that need to be worked out. 

Bedford and Chandler – they are the same player and you just want to see another 12 months to see where they get too. Great tackling game from both. They played that Spargo high half forward role for quite a lot of the game. Would have been nice to see them deep in the forward line more often to see their goal game. Bedford great crumbing goal. 

Bradke – 2 goals, there is a lot to like in here but he is too slight to really have an impact on the game and not good enough when it hits the ground to make up for it. As a positive, he marks well and kicks well. So there is a lot to work with there. 

top job dl. thanks.