Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


CHANGES: Rd 16 vs Carlton


Lord Nev

Recommended Posts

Just now, Satyriconhome said:

I love Demonland after a loss, poor comedy gold, we got smashed around clearances and contests and not one 'midfielder' to be dropped

No one is denying it was a massive weakness in that particular game, but who do you suggest we bring in that will solve it?

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I love Demonland after a loss, poor comedy gold, we got smashed around clearances and contests and not one 'midfielder' to be dropped

Talk about comedy gold, could there be anything funnier than Brayshaw's half dozen, backwards handballs over his head, all of which went straight to the opposition.

Had the Lions fans rolling in the aisles.

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm thinking wholesale changes this weekend, time to send a message, and with the season gone it's time to start kicking bums.

Possible ins: Preuss, Maynard, JKH, Spargo, Lever

All had good/decent games for Casey, none are the answer to our problems at the moment however.

Preuss needs to come in regardless of Gawns availability. Sick of this carp argument he has no tank. FFS he'll be playing 20% ruck 80% goal square. To all the no-Preuss brigade, raise your hand if you [censored] yourself when Gawn went down. Wake up.

Maynard isn't the best inside bull we have, far from it. But if he doesn't win a clearance he'll work his ars off to fix it. He delivers a wake up call to a few un-droppables.

JKH, same deal, wake up call. If he's getting a game over a few others they might have a long hard look. Also improves his trade value, I believe Carlton were interested previously?.

Spargo. Sheesh. I don't really want him back in until he's a fully fledged inside mid at VFL level, but 10 tackles for Casey is what we needed against Bris.

Lever obvious in for Petty if fit.

Possible outs: FIIK but a message needs to be sent. Brayshaw? Weids? ANB? Hannan? Petty pretty much automatic if Lever's fit.

I'd really love to know. If McCartney told supporters on Thursday we'd win the next 6, what the absolute [censored] went wrong? Is Rocket Eade available for a celebrity coach gig this weekend?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

After the midfield debacle last Sunday, we have to give Lewis a run in the middle.  He did win 4 premierships, a Hawks B & F and All Australian selection as a midfielder.  He has good leadership skills and could provide some great feedback to our regular mids. It would also give one of the usual mids a chance to spend time down forward to bolster our skill set down there.

  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

I love Demonland after a loss, poor comedy gold, we got smashed around clearances and contests and not one 'midfielder' to be dropped

Are you kidding? Do you think we should drop one? Who would come  in?

Do you think they will? Of course not. so why would anyone suggest it?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If fit Lever for Petty. 

If Gawn doesn’t get up then Preuss comes in. 

I’d like to see JKH get a solid block of footy. Last chance for his career at Melbourne. Likely for ANB. 

Dunkley is one I’d also consider. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


6 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Possible ins: Preuss, Maynard, JKH, Spargo, Lever

All had good/decent games for Casey, none are the answer to our problems at the moment however.

I would hope the last player highlighted would be an answer to our problem given that he cost us 2 first rounders and we are 18th for points against.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I would hope the last player highlighted would be an answer to our problem given that he cost us 2 first rounders and we are 18th for points against.

Agree. We need Lever to be the player we expected when we recruited him.

But we might have to wait for next season as after such a long time out he will take some time to get back to his best.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 hours ago, dimmy said:

Oscar Baker is still learning the pace of the game. Only the real good blokes get away with the "shimmying".

Being a Brisbane lad, Baker had a massive cohort of mates and family at the game and was pretty nervous as a result. He had previously been delisted by the Lions Academy as well so I reckon he was just trying too hard and yes, got caught a few times and gave away a few freekicks. Definitely persist with him though as he'll learn and he's just the type of player (speed, outside run) we need to develop and grow.

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

No one is denying it was a massive weakness in that particular game, but who do you suggest we bring in that will solve it?

 

2 hours ago, binman said:

Are you kidding? Do you think we should drop one? Who would come  in?

Do you think they will? Of course not. so why would anyone suggest it?

Hinkley recently made a statement and dropped:  Rockcliff, Westoff, Ryder and Powell-Pepper.  There was an article yesterday about Ollie Wines (co-captain) the next one on the chopping block.  That is what strong coaches do.

The way our midfielders danced around and blindly flicked the ball around was awful - they wouldn't take a tackle.  It was like a playground. 

As usual Oliver constantly trotted after an opp rather than chased.  He has good tackle numbers but to players who are 1 mt away.  He doesn't do the hard stuff.  Neither does Brayshaw.  Even Harmes' intensity has dropped off lately.  Viney also looked like he caught the 'hands off' bug.   Would love to see their metres run stats and the 'heat map'.

The season is gone; we will end up bottom 3.  I don't care who we bring in.  Some statements need to be made.  Hinkley did it.  Clarkson did it.  Even Hardwick dropped fan idol Higgins.  Our coaches cannot avoid the hard decisions.  If they do is it any wonder the players don't do the hard stuff.

The sooner our players realise that no-one is a 'protected species' the better we will be.  Perhaps drop Oliver until he learns to chase, defend and kick - no bigger statement than that.  Everyone will be on notice.

Edited by Lucifer's Hero
  • Like 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dump on me for this but reading between the lines of Gawn's injury I'd say rest him. He is too valuable long term to mess about with. They hope the swelling goes down in time because it's a seven day turnaround? No thanks. Preuss deserves a run and was by reports in decent form the past few weeks. He looked OK in Sydney but ran out of steam. His fitness must have improved. Give him a go and let's see what he has.The midfield was rubbish last week with Gawn so let's put the challenge on them to do the job without Max as a crutch.

So Preuss in for Gawn.

JKH also apparently was dynamite at Casey. Well, against expectations he was pretty handy late last year and was unlucky to cop an injury just when he was starting to look like he belonged so

JKH in for ANB who had little impact.

No other changes needed. Some pride required. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

27 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Hinkley recently made a statement and dropped:  Rockcliff, Westoff, Ryder and Powell-Pepper.  There was an article yesterday about Ollie Wines (co-captain) the next one on the chopping block.  That is what strong coaches do.

I don't disagree that we need to hold the mids accountable, but who comes in? And how did dropping those players work out for Hinkley on Saturday night?

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

55 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

 

The sooner our players realise that no-one is a 'protected species' the better we will be.  Perhaps drop Oliver until he learns to chase, defend and kick - no bigger statement than that.  Everyone will be on notice.

great post

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

40 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Dump on me for this but reading between the lines of Gawn's injury I'd say rest him. He is too valuable long term to mess about with. They hope the swelling goes down in time because it's a seven day turnaround? No thanks. Preuss deserves a run and was by reports in decent form the past few weeks. He looked OK in Sydney but ran out of steam. His fitness must have improved. Give him a go and let's see what he has.The midfield was rubbish last week with Gawn so let's put the challenge on them to do the job without Max as a crutch.

So Preuss in for Gawn.

JKH also apparently was dynamite at Casey. Well, against expectations he was pretty handy late last year and was unlucky to cop an injury just when he was starting to look like he belonged so

JKH in for ANB who had little impact.

No other changes needed. Some pride required. 

Agree but prepare yourself for disappointment. Preuss by himself will get monstered. His role was as a twin tower with Gawn. We could have used Gawn as a floating tall with Preuss doing say 70% of the ruck work.

The role of the tap ruckman is massively over valued. It is what the player does around the ground that counts these days.

Unless of course our coaches can work out how to take advantage of a winning ruckman. Something they have failed to do for three seasons. (Perhaps it can't be done in this modern era.)

On JKH... deckchairs comes to mind but I don't disagree

Edited by Diamond_Jim
Link to comment
Share on other sites

43 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I don't disagree that we need to hold the mids accountable, but who comes in? And how did dropping those players work out for Hinkley on Saturday night?

The point was to make a statement and make them better players.  Hinkley was prepared to take the risk.  They all put in exceptional games in the SANFL.  They are all match winners on their day. The success of the move can only be assessed once they are back in the team which they will be.  I suspect Port will win more games from the improvement in the dropped name players than losing the game on Sat night.  The alternative was to let them continue to play below expectations.

As to who we bring in?  I've given up on this season so I don't care who we bring in.   The goal imv is to build a team for next year.  If that means making a statement and drop Oliver or Brayshaw and we lose so be it.   Give JKH a chance to show he deserves another contract or give Dunkley a run to see how he fares at AFL level.  Nothing to lose.

Edited by Lucifer's Hero
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

36 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

So Preuss in for Gawn.

JKH also apparently was dynamite at Casey. Well, against expectations he was pretty handy late last year and was unlucky to cop an injury just when he was starting to look like he belonged so

JKH in for ANB who had little impact.

No other changes needed. Some pride required. 

We're a little bereft of depth, which makes it hard to drop some of our guys who probably need to be dropped, but how many chances does JKH get before we come to the realisation that he's not good enough, even for our current subpar standards (which says a lot).

The JKH experiment goes something like this: he plays a decent game at Casey, gets called up, plays like trash then dropped back to Casey. His game against the crows was terrible. Some argued it was the effects of coming back from injury, but he played dumb footy and coughed it up more times than I can remember. He was dropped for a reason, and should stay dropped. We very quickly forget how bad some of these guys are! I know ANB is not perfect, but we have renewed his contract, so should stick to developing his role, if possible.

Totally up for Preuss returning, with or without Maxxy being injured. He's the sort of crash and bash that we need. 

Also agree with Pride being an inclusion. Sorely missed!

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I think it is a pity that players like Sparrow and Chandler are unavailable. 

And people calling for JKH to be included ? Good grief.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

31 minutes ago, dl4e said:

I think it is a pity that players like Sparrow and Chandler are unavailable. 

And people calling for JKH to be included ? Good grief.

Tell me about it. 

It seems that some people forget so easily! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wish I’d continued wandering through Turkey and Georgia rather than return to the Northern Rivers to watch that unaccountable slop on Sunday. That’s the most ineffective midfield group we’ve ever put up. So let’s change it up.. (rest Gawn) ... the new mid six is... Preuss, Lewis Petracca and Salem in the square and JKH and Baker on the outside. The front six is T Smith Oliver and ANB, TMac Fritsch Hunt and the back six could be Jones May Hore, Frost Lever Viney... Leaving the bench of Weed to spell Preuss, Maynard as a mid, Hibberd and Lockhart... gotta do something drastic because getting rolled by Carlton would be the pits.

Outs..Gawn inj. Brayshaw Petty Harmes Hannan dropped

In.. Preuss, Lever, Lewis, JKH, Maynard

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I would hope the last player highlighted would be an answer to our problem given that he cost us 2 first rounders and we are 18th for points against.

Yes true. I meant I don't think defense is our big problem. He's most certainly a key part of our best 22.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Demon Spofforth said:

Being a Brisbane lad, Baker had a massive cohort of mates and family at the game and was pretty nervous as a result. He had previously been delisted by the Lions Academy as well so I reckon he was just trying too hard and yes, got caught a few times and gave away a few freekicks. Definitely persist with him though as he'll learn and he's just the type of player (speed, outside run) we need to develop and grow.

No,,,I reckon he will be good. Thanks for background.

We seem to have picked up a good couple of roughies as well in Marty Hore and young Lockart.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

In terms of the future, I'm considering these factors:

1. There was zero forward pressure against Brisbane

2. The season is cooked

3. Jeffy is not really the future and picks and chooses when he's going to go full bore

I'd give Toby Bedford a taste of senior footy. Quick, skilled and starting to make an impact at Casey. No better time than now imo.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all.    On that rainy Friday night at the Adelaide Oval, Ken Hinkley’s young midfield secured much more than four points on offer. The victory over one of the big dogs of the competition after a succession of wins over some of its lesser lights gave his team respect and validation fo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Monday 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training. DEMON DYNASTY'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kade Chandler's left knee heavily strapped. BBB, Spargs & Jake Lever also in rehab group. Jake Bowey solo running separate kicking/sprint/agility drills. Super fine morning / early arvo at Gosch's for the boys to blow out some cobwebs. Choco initially had the light duties / rehab group

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter. By the time they worked out it was game on, their opponents from Box Hill had accumulated five goals and, if the game wasn’t over, it might as well have been. For a se

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head. The Demons have now won nine of their last ten encounters with the other result, a draw.     And like a fork, it was the multi-pronged options that Melbourne had all across the ground.  It certainly helped that Hawthorn

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 8

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in the Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 262

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 25th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Hawks in the Round 02. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 46

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 357

    GAMEDAY: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 437
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 03

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 03 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 03

  • Match Preview      

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 03

       vs   

    Saturday 30th March 2024
    @ 07:30pm (AO)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 2-4 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 7 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
    9 Jack Billings 10
    9 Alex Neal-Bullen 10

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...