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"One of these is Adelaide key defender Alex Keath. Keath started the year in what was bordering on All Australian form before probably tailing off a little in the second half of the season, but still appears to be a quality option in that part of the ground", quote.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/08/27/all-cake-no-icing-three-offseason-strategies-to-fix-the-dreadful-demons/

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59 minutes ago, Lord Ivanhoe said:

"One of these is Adelaide key defender Alex Keath. Keath started the year in what was bordering on All Australian form before probably tailing off a little in the second half of the season, but still appears to be a quality option in that part of the ground", quote.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/08/27/all-cake-no-icing-three-offseason-strategies-to-fix-the-dreadful-demons/

The article says he is one we should NOT take...

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Maybe so, but imv we need a forward line made up of AFL experienced forwards.  By all means add a few that were fwds earlier in their career or converted from other roles but our whole fwds have barely played 150 games between them in that role.  That Jones is our highest goal kicker speaks volumes of our need for real forwards.

Pretty sure May would have made it in a forward role by now if he had what it takes.  And Keath for that matter!

While a T-Mac II (2018 version!) might be an outside chance, the old saying "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear" tends to hold true, especially with most backmen who've already been in the system for a number of years.

If we end up signing more dour defenders (that are unlikely to provide a genuine outside mid run and gun option) i would start having major concerns that this FD is struggling to grasp what is truly needed to turn a rocky tug boat into a first class cruise liner.

Keath a big no for mine.

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3 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

Crows will want Petty in return, who I wouldn't want to see go.

If the club let go of Petty who is 20 and provided a massive target up forward, thats me done with the club.

 

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On 6/10/2019 at 9:35 PM, Jaded said:

I hope we pick a slow inside mid with suspect kicking. It’s the missing piece of our puzzle. 

Providing he arrives at the club with a 4-6 week injury. 

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2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

With the exception of inexperienced Weideman and Fritsch, our whole fwd line is converted mids and backmen. 

Can we have some real forwards please, who have experience in the role at AFL, understand 'forward craft' and can help their less experienced forward teammates.

And while we are at it, an experienced forward coach wouldn't go astray!

 

completely agree, but who??  they dont grow on trees, havent heard of many looking for a trade

play Carlisle fwd? but he is a [censored]

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3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

With the exception of inexperienced Weideman and Fritsch, our whole fwd line is converted mids and backmen. 

Can we have some real forwards please, who have experience in the role at AFL, understand 'forward craft' and can help their less experienced forward teammates.

And while we are at it, an experienced forward coach wouldn't go astray!

 

Nieta was a converted full back. Can we get him down at the club to spend time with our forward line? 

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4 hours ago, DubDee said:

completely agree, but who??  they dont grow on trees, havent heard of many looking for a trade

play Carlisle fwd? but he is a [censored]

Jenkins has been discussed in dispatches ...shudder...

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I’d say the recent rumours that we’re close to re-signing Frost would indicate that we’re welll behind the dogs in the chase for Keath. I think we’ve been chasing Keath with an eye to cutting Frosty loose.

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12 hours ago, Hampton 22 said:

Providing he arrives at the club with a 4-6 week injury. 

and underdone PUUURRFEEECCCTTTT!

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3 hours ago, Mach5 said:

I’d say the recent rumours that we’re close to re-signing Frost would indicate that we’re welll behind the dogs in the chase for Keath. I think we’ve been chasing Keath with an eye to cutting Frosty loose.

Go Doggies!

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7 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Jenkins has been discussed in dispatches ...shudder...

Hopefully greater emphasis on dispatching WWSW.

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2 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Hopefully greater emphasis on dispatching WWSW.

I’m disgusted about the dispatch discussion

Jenkins is cooked

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54 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

I’m disgusted about the dispatch discussion

Jenkins is cooked

There's alot of Dees in there WW.

Did he ever really get started?

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Happy with this if it means pushing May forward. 

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2 hours ago, Smokey said:

Happy with this if it means pushing May forward. 

Can't agree Smokey. We got May as a key defender and that's where we need him i reckon.

May, Jetta and Omac were the only defenders this season i trusted not to turn the ball over by foot. And May is super important structurally down back and can also play big and small.

Maybe he can go forward as swing man at times but i want him holding our back six together. 

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1 hour ago, binman said:

Can't agree Smokey. We got May as a key defender

Goodwin said at the time we recruited him that we may play him forward, and it was part of the discussions Goody and May had prior to the trade request.

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4 hours ago, binman said:

Can't agree Smokey. We got May as a key defender and that's where we need him i reckon.

May, Jetta and Omac were the only defenders this season i trusted not to turn the ball over by foot. And May is super important structurally down back and can also play big and small.

Maybe he can go forward as swing man at times but i want him holding our back six together. 

You make a good point, I'm leaning toward your point of view on reflection 

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On 6/10/2019 at 9:21 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

He will be 28 at the beginning of next year.  Ha, ha - the club must think we are in premiership mode!!.

We would only chase another tall defender if they were concerned about Lever long term which I doubt.  The article talks about May going forward so maybe they are concerned about TMac's foot. 

If we want a fwd I we should go after a genuine forward rather than turn a key defender into a forward.

Adelaide will want our first round pick and they know we will cave in.

Walk away.

David Neitz says “hi”!

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9 hours ago, monoccular said:

David Neitz says “hi”!

I wrote the comment 3 months ago!

Nonetheless, I still believe if we want a forward lets recruit an experienced AFL forward because with the exception of Fritsch and Weideman all our forwards are converted defenders or converted midfielders.  And none have much AFL experience as a forward.

Neitz was a champion at both ends of the ground!  But, he had other experienced forwards around him: Robbertson, yze, Schwarz.  We have nothing like that fwd support.

Different circumstances and Keath is no Neita!

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Neitz was a standout forward at under 19 level... he was sent back when he made the seniors and played very well as a CHB before returning to be a champion goal scorer when we recruited decent backmen from other clubs.

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