GAMEDAY: Rd 12 vs Collingwood

[chookrat 3,776]

I reckon a massive game looms for Petracca. Has been good for the last 6 weeks and if it were not for some poor finishing would have some big hauls. I can see him kicking 4-5 goals with some dominant stints on ball. He will relish the big crowd at the G. 

[The Red Fox 216]

8 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I reckon a massive game looms for Petracca. Has been good for the last 6 weeks and if it were not for some poor finishing would have some big hauls. I can see him kicking 4-5 goals with some dominant stints on ball. He will relish the big crowd at the G. 

Yeah, want the best for Trac, but this just won’t happen. ?

[Damo 2,988]

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I cant believe how many people forgive and accept Petracca's faults. He is uncoachable. He cannot concentrate. He NEVER comes through when the going is tough,although trying hard, he is stupid and trying to do too much. He falls immediately to old bad habits.

[The Red Fox 216]

2 minutes ago, Damo said:

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I cant believe how many people forgive and accept Petracca's faults. He is uncoachable. He cannot concentrate. He NEVER comes through when the going is tough,although trying hard, he is stupid and trying to do too much. He falls immediately to old bad habits.

I actually feel like Demonland, and the supporters, go pretty hard on him. I also think you’re going too hard on him...

[Nelo 813]

18 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I reckon a massive game looms for Petracca. Has been good for the last 6 weeks and if it were not for some poor finishing would have some big hauls. I can see him kicking 4-5 goals with some dominant stints on ball. He will relish the big crowd at the G. 

Yeah his poor kicking could have turned average games into very good games. 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

11 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I reckon a massive game looms for Petracca. Has been good for the last 6 weeks and if it were not for some poor finishing would have some big hauls. I can see him kicking 4-5 goals with some dominant stints on ball. He will relish the big crowd at the G. 

Petracca’s statistically had his worst six weeks since his first six games for the club four years ago. He’s averaging just 70 SuperCoach points and has kicked a paltry 10 goals from 11 games as a permanent forward line player. Those are horrible returns. 

It’s amazing how divorced from reality our supporters (and the media) can be when it comes to this player. He’s either a chronic underperformer or simply not that good. I think it’s probably somewhere in between. 

The similarities with Colin Sylvia’s career path are eerily similar.

[Diamond_Jim 11,720]

Pies by 30 plus unless they kick inaccurately and we do the reverse.

 

[Mazer Rackham 14,969]

22 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I reckon a massive game looms for Petracca. Has been good for the last 6 weeks and if it were not for some poor finishing would have some big hauls. I can see him kicking 4-5 goals with some dominant stints on ball. He will relish the big crowd at the G. 

Wet weather will be right up his alley. He's elite at drowning.

To kick 4 goals he would need 40 shots on goal.

[picket fence 15,088]

I would rather Spargo a late OUT and Billy In, who, whilst hasn't been all that impressive is a much better option than Spargo! 

Also, I reckon Clarry won't play, Maggies to win in that case!

Edited June 10, 2019 by picket fence

[Thehardtackler 785]

Think Oliver will play. Smoke and mirrors. Will be an unpleasant affair though win or lose because the Magpie Army are out in force today.

[ding 5,126]

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

He will need to have a plan for Oliver, but if Billy plays he could allow things to pan out as they occur.

Collingwood are a much better team at the moment, even though they havent been at their best for a couple of weeks.

We have been nowhere near our best all year. Our in's, although very good players, wont be at their peak after a while out of the game.

Pies by enough, but we have to beat someone eventually dont we?

Dont we?

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,122]

24 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Pies by 30 plus unless they kick inaccurately and we do the reverse.

 

Only Port, Sydney and Richmond have kicked more behinds than goals against us.

Is it any wonder we’re 3-8...

Edited June 10, 2019 by Bring-Back-Powell

[chookrat 3,776]

44 minutes ago, Damo said:

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I cant believe how many people forgive and accept Petracca's faults. He is uncoachable. He cannot concentrate. He NEVER comes through when the going is tough,although trying hard, he is stupid and trying to do too much. He falls immediately to old bad habits.

Every rose has it's thorns

[chookrat 3,776]

37 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Petracca’s statistically had his worst six weeks since his first six games for the club four years ago. He’s averaging just 70 SuperCoach points and has kicked a paltry 10 goals from 11 games as a permanent forward line player. Those are horrible returns. 

It’s amazing how divorced from reality our supporters (and the media) can be when it comes to this player. He’s either a chronic underperformer or simply not that good. I think it’s probably somewhere in between. 

The similarities with Colin Sylvia’s career path are eerily similar.

Supercoach stats aren't very meaningful in explaining whether a forward is playing well. Petracca's pressure is good, he wins the ball in tight and uses the ball well. The onlys thing letting him down has been our overall ability to move the ball quickly in the first 8-9 rounds, which is getting much better, and his finishing which I think will click today. Dees! 

[Damo 2,988]

I still hope Petracca plays well. We just dont give the ANB JKH types who try hard and follow instruction (generally) the latitude that "talented" players who screw up get.

[Skin Deeamond 339]

3 hours ago, DubDee said:

Pies won 7 on the trot before their loss to freo. 

We have been inconsistent and horrible in front of goal. But overall our intensity has improved. 

We are not without a chance but it will be tough. 

But you can never tell what will happen on these big days. The rain is meant to clear and the sun come out which is great. 

Playing Cox is a mistake in my opinion. He is not a natural footballer and needed to get some touch after 6 weeks out. 

Cox will kick at least three. We should have played Preuss. None of our players can match up on this height except Maxy and he has other jobs to do.

[Demon17 4,541]

55 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Petracca’s statistically had his worst six weeks since his first six games for the club four years ago. He’s averaging just 70 SuperCoach points and has kicked a paltry 10 goals from 11 games as a permanent forward line player. Those are horrible returns. 

It’s amazing how divorced from reality our supporters (and the media) can be when it comes to this player. He’s either a chronic underperformer or simply not that good. I think it’s probably somewhere in between. 

The similarities with Colin Sylvia’s career path are eerily similar.

Yes. Today will be another underwhelming output. Might win the odd one on one and maybe a cameo but thats about it. 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

Just now, chookrat said:

Supercoach stats aren't very meaningful in explaining whether a forward is playing well. Petracca's pressure is good, he wins the ball in tight and uses the ball well. The onlys thing letting him down has been our overall ability to move the ball quickly in the first 8-9 rounds, which is getting much better, and his finishing which I think will click today. Dees! 

Most AFL and even VFL forwards can apply pressure. It’s a bare minimum requirement. If you’re a forward you’ve also got to kick goals. As mid sized forward in particular you must also manufacture goals from half chances and opportunism. 

10 in 11 games from a 70+ gamer playing most of his minutes near goal is C grade stuff. 

Its unacceptable and frankly amazing he’s not been dropped to Casey in that time.

[dazzledavey36 48,701]

7 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Most AFL and even VFL forwards can apply pressure. It’s a bare minimum requirement. If you’re a forward you’ve also got to kick goals. As mid sized forward in particular you must also manufacture goals from half chances and opportunism. 

10 in 11 games from a 70+ gamer playing most of his minutes near goal is C grade stuff. 

Its unacceptable and frankly amazing he’s not been dropped to Casey in that time.

Rubbish

[sisso 2,383]

11 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Most AFL and even VFL forwards can apply pressure. It’s a bare minimum requirement. If you’re a forward you’ve also got to kick goals. As mid sized forward in particular you must also manufacture goals from half chances and opportunism. 

10 in 11 games from a 70+ gamer playing most of his minutes near goal is C grade stuff. 

Its unacceptable and frankly amazing he’s not been dropped to Casey in that time.

Our entire forward line has barely fired a shot all year, what are you going to do drop everyone?

[Radar Detector 1,339]

2 hours ago, monoccular said:

He will need to have a plan for Oliver, but if Billy plays he could allow things to pan out as they occur.

 

2 hours ago, Nelo said:

Haha. No planning required for stretch. Let him have the ball and turn it over. 

I fear a few sarcasm metres may have gone on the blink

[The Red Fox 216]

31 minutes ago, Stormy Dee said:

Cox will kick at least three. We should have played Preuss. None of our players can match up on this height except Maxy and he has other jobs to do.

So, you’re saying we should have played Preuss at full back!? ?

[Smokey 4,116]

25 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Most AFL and even VFL forwards can apply pressure. It’s a bare minimum requirement. If you’re a forward you’ve also got to kick goals. As mid sized forward in particular you must also manufacture goals from half chances and opportunism. 

10 in 11 games from a 70+ gamer playing most of his minutes near goal is C grade stuff. 

Its unacceptable and frankly amazing he’s not been dropped to Casey in that time.

Problem with that is that no one that we could choose from would be a better option for his role. I’ve been ok with Tracs year so far in a forgettable season for all except Maxy Gawn. 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

21 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Rubbish

Okay I stand corrected. 10 goals in 11 games from Trac is blue chip stuff. Break out the Verve Cliquot.

[bandicoot 1,395]

1 hour ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Petracca’s statistically had his worst six weeks since his first six games for the club four years ago. He’s averaging just 70 SuperCoach points and has kicked a paltry 10 goals from 11 games as a permanent forward line player. Those are horrible returns. 

It’s amazing how divorced from reality our supporters (and the media) can be when it comes to this player. He’s either a chronic underperformer or simply not that good. I think it’s probably somewhere in between. 

The similarities with Colin Sylvia’s career path are eerily similar.

Last 4 games he is averaging 20 possession, 9 contested, 1 goal, 5 marks, 5 inside 50’s and 7 score involvements.

You must really have it in for him as you are getting facts get in the way of your pure bias against him.