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2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Same old problem with Oscar. Amazing it has taken people so long to see what has been glaringly obvious since day1. 

No intensity. Incapable of of winning one on ones.. constantly outbodied. Slow. No turning circle. Can't jump. Ineffective spoiler. No football brain.

other than that he is reasonably tall. Is a neat kick and a good bloke.

do we have mid season de list?

Careful Jnr.. apparently if you are too you harsh on Oscar you will have to 'lawyer' up for personal abuse.. ?‍♂️

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What I’m amazed by- is how he has actually become weaker in the contest. He gets pushed off it by small and talls alike. He has gone backwards. 

He never marks it in the contest and often mistimes his fist back into a dangerous spot. 

Love to know what is happening.

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3 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Too slow between the ears. 

Depth now if he wants to stick around behind Lever, May and Frost.

Depth? Nah..you some attribute to be depth. Frost is depth. So is Kielty. 

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Froscar has finally become Oscar around here.  Even the simpletons have woken up.

Looks like Jonewis will ultimately becomes Lewis.

 

 

The ease and laziness of pairing?

 

Do we still think Brad Scott is as intelligent as Chris?

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18 hours ago, SPC said:

What I’m amazed by- is how he has actually become weaker in the contest. He gets pushed off it by small and talls alike. He has gone backwards. 

I'm with you. last year Oscar looked as if he was developing into a reliable tall defender, but this year, when he is not being outmarked, he is falling over.

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1 hour ago, Tony Tea said:

I'm with you. last year Oscar looked as if he was developing into a reliable tall defender, but this year, when he is not being outmarked, he is falling over.

I watched the replay closely and I think Omac looks considerably lighter across the chest and shoulders than last year. With Jenkins next to him he was a stick figure. No strength at all. Gets pushed off the contest much easier this year. I wonder if there's something not right with him atm (queue the NQR comments from Demonland whip handlers). 

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1 hour ago, Tony Tea said:

I'm with you. last year Oscar looked as if he was developing into a reliable tall defender, but this year, when he is not being outmarked, he is falling over.

It's time for him to go back to Casey to learn to stand on his own in defence.   And to learn to become more offensive and more intense.

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1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

I watched the replay closely and I think Omac looks considerably lighter across the chest and shoulders than last year. With Jenkins next to him he was a stick figure. No strength at all. Gets pushed off the contest much easier this year. I wonder if there's something not right with him atm (queue the NQR comments from Demonland whip handlers). 

He had post season surgery. Can't recall what it was but might be a factor.

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All things considered, I think Oscar has been quite serviceable this year. His kicking has improved and he does the one percenters as well as anyone. We haven't had the most defensively minded midfield, and I think that's made our 'seconds' backline look worse than it maybe has been.

First backline for me at the moment would include Jetta, May, Lever, Hore, Hibberd and Salem. Frost is the unlucky one. Most have them have been missing in action this year.

As some of these guys start coming back, would there be any harm trying Frost or Oscar further up the ground? Honestly, I couldn't have imagined TMac playing as a forward a few years back. 

(I must say though, less optimistic about Oscar up the ground, can imagine Frost though)

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Reality OMac played a poor game on the weekend

Reality OMac is out of form

Reality OMac is not going to challenge for All Australian Key Position Defender

but he has performed a role in the past, above his stature.

BIG REALITY our midfield applies little defensive pressure with the opposition transitioning through them with relative ease, once the ball is on the outside our midfielders are dusted (jogging behind or to the next contest is not defensive pressure)

VERY BIG REALITY our forwards defensive acts seem to stop at the 50 metre arc, while opposition backs link up with their midfielders to run through the center of the ground

Little wonder our backs are being slaughtered; remember Jetta and Hibberd were also struggling for most of this year as well.  

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39 minutes ago, Ungarie boy said:

 

BIG REALITY our midfield applies little defensive pressure with the opposition transitioning through them with relative ease, once the ball is on the outside our midfielders are dusted (jogging behind or to the next contest is not defensive pressure)

VERY BIG REALITY our forwards defensive acts seem to stop at the 50 metre arc, while opposition backs link up with their midfielders to run through the center of the ground

Little wonder our backs are being slaughtered; remember Jetta and Hibberd were also struggling for most of this year as well.  

Too true ub.  I thought pyke exploited these issues really well.

The other key issue was hore's late withdrawal robbing us completely of the intercept player who could zone off and go third man in to mark or spoil.

To take advantage of our rubbish team defence and nor having aeriel coverage he isolated omac one out  against a much stronger opponent. As you say omac had a poor game and was well beaten by jenkins but that is not a shock given he has is at a signifacnt strength and experience disadvantage. Collins for gc was at a similar disadvantage and was towelled up by tmac in his only half decent game of the year. It happens.

But as I say smart coaching assited by lazy mids, poor forward pressure and two late outs robbing us of two important  defefenders who were replaced by twi short non defenders and one of those is treacle slow.

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I dont want to appear unnecessarily provocative and I do admire the blind loyalty of The Oscar camp but  that said I  have no doubt that the extra 3 points needed for a win would have been achieved if May,Lever ,Kelty or just about anyone else had played CHB on Saturday night .Oscar is and has in  my view always been an indescribably inept footballer with no skill set at all .On Saturday  night he made an out of form and not much good anyway Josh Jenkins look like Wayne Carey .I wouldn't expect Oscar to even be an influence at Casey .He however is a particularly talented golfer and perhaps the club could encourage him in that direction 

 

 

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On 6/1/2019 at 10:43 PM, Nelo said:

Yeah I agree. Nothing personally against him, probably a great guy but just not cut out for a key defensive position. 

Great golfer, in fact the best. Actually has good skills, kicking and marking but lack of speed and strength means he doesn't succeed on the backline. He was better last year when the team success kept it in our half most of the time and his skills worked on the 'switch' tactic when it came out of our half. As Tom struggles this year on forward line I don't know why they didn't swap them around. Tom on Jenkins and maybe Oscar might have snagged a mark or two and a couple of goals. Things can happen unexpectedly. Not withstanding, I agree his numbers are numbered baring injuries.

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Oscar is another example of WTF has happened to us this year. 

I watched Oscar closely in a couple of games last year ( and he played some bloody good footy). I remember posting on Dland how well he played and looking forward to development into a gun defender.

This year he has reverted to [censored]. Tom has looked ordinary and seems to be carrying an injury. Brayshaw is a shadow. Weid has gone backwards. Ollie has been inconsistent …… etc etc  etc.

It is more than Oscar. We have been a rabble.

FFS! What has happened?? 

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2 hours ago, Ungarie boy said:

while opposition backs link up with their midfielders to run through the center of the ground

Little wonder our backs are being slaughtered; remember Jetta and Hibberd were also struggling for most of this year as well

That is what many of us DL associates have seen, recently see in every match we play and no longer wish to see at all.

Our backs were being slaughtered. Jetta and Hibberd had to support and back up someone placed at CHB or worse, a stick in a jungle at Full Back - every game - and win against their allocated opponent(s) as well, simultaneously - place Frosty on that list of share-the-burden teammates as well but he overcame the urge to leave his man, to provide support elsewhere or to attempt to create a new play. Lewis could not achieve this whilst expected to direct the traffic in response to the trespassing that we were allowing.

Hibberd and Jetta were rightly stuffed! Too much work, too great a distance to cover in our 'chaos' speed game and, too many high risks in playing as teammates to a vacuum. 

There was a pathway, and wide highway for opposition opportunists and coaches to exploit, each game, all game, all season. A trouble-free road from their (opposition) midfield to their goal line. Goodwin fell for it. It gaped. Kick it to - or run through - wherever OMac might be.

Is this going to continue?

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2 hours ago, kallangurdemon said:

I dont want to appear unnecessarily provocative and I do admire the blind loyalty of The Oscar camp but  that said I  have no doubt that the extra 3 points needed for a win would have been achieved if May,Lever ,Kelty or just about anyone else had played CHB on Saturday night .Oscar is and has in  my view always been an indescribably inept footballer with no skill set at all .On Saturday  night he made an out of form and not much good anyway Josh Jenkins look like Wayne Carey .I wouldn't expect Oscar to even be an influence at Casey .He however is a particularly talented golfer and perhaps the club could encourage him in that direction 

 

 

So it's Oscar's fault we lost and the club should tell him to become a golfer instead of a footballer? 

Troll.

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4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

So it's Oscar's fault we lost and the club should tell him to become a golfer instead of a footballer? 

Troll.

I dont believe it is unfair or unreasonable to have a  negative view on players performance providing your view has some arguable basis and is not actuated by malice.I certainly have no malice towards Oscar and by all accounts is a great bloke but really brings nothing to the table as a footballer .If you asked what was the single biggest factor in the heartbreaking loss I would with complete candor and honesty say the performance of Oscar.

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23 minutes ago, kallangurdemon said:

I dont believe it is unfair or unreasonable to have a  negative view on players performance providing your view has some arguable basis and is not actuated by malice.I certainly have no malice towards Oscar and by all accounts is a great bloke but really brings nothing to the table as a footballer .If you asked what was the single biggest factor in the heartbreaking loss I would with complete candor and honesty say the performance of Oscar.

So not Gawn's simple miss in the dying minutes? Not Weid's easier miss from straight in front with 15 sec left? I'd say those individual efforts could've won us the game, but we lost. Is it their fault we lost, did they cost us the win? Of course not. However, i don't see anyone making cheap comments about their skills or condescending with alternative career paths.

I don't believe Oscar had a good game or has had a good year. But i'm not going to heap the blame on him for us losing. We had many passengers for the last quarter and a half, and a lot of players made numerous costly mistakes. Oscar was not alone.

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There's no way Oscar lost us that game, but it's as clear as day now, that he's not good enough. His positioning is terrible, his body strength actually seems to be getting worse and due to a perennial lack of confidence, he consistently makes the wrong decision.

I backed him for a few years, but my patience ran out at the start of 2018. Clearly, the patience of the FD was exhausted around the same time, if not the season prior.

Frost is an improving option and while Petty develops and May and Lever are injured, he's good support. Oscar has not improved and should no longer have a place in this side once May and Lever are back.

I'd be playing May, Lever, Hore, Frost, Hibberd and Jetta back there in 2020, enabling Salem to move further up the ground with KK (if he can stay on the park).

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9 minutes ago, A F said:

There's no way Oscar lost us that game, but it's as clear as day now, that he's not good enough. His positioning is terrible, his body strength actually seems to be getting worse and due to a perennial lack of confidence, he consistently makes the wrong decision.

I backed him for a few years, but my patience ran out at the start of 2018. Clearly, the patience of the FD was exhausted around the same time, if not the season prior.

Frost is an improving option and while Petty develops and May and Lever are injured, he's good support. Oscar has not improved and should no longer have a place in this side once May and Lever are back.

I'd be playing May, Lever, Hore, Frost, Hibberd and Jetta back there in 2020, enabling Salem to move further up the ground with KK (if he can stay on the park).

I would too, AF and I think that's how it will pan out.

But we seem to always have at least one injured back, often 3. So Omac being depth is going to get a semi-regular  game.

Btw, I think Omac had a reasonable year in 2018. He was solid in many games and if my memory serves me correctly took some decent scalps. Not Hawkins at Kardinia Park, unfortunately. 

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