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POSTGAME: Rd 11 vs Adelaide


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8 hours ago, Good Lord George said:

3.12 to 9.3 in the second half.

Get [censored] Melbourne

@Demonland not sure the NT or Dave Mission we’re responsible for our tripping over our own feet to lose this one. The above appalling conversion rate and Weid [censored] the bed to miss might though.

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8 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

I have to say this.  Garlett is weak as [censored].  For all his speed and skill, he tries to run past contests and do a magic slight of hand tap to knock the ball clear rather than putting his body in.  He misses goals because he's more worried about being tackled than taking an extra step to line the shot up.  He dropped multiple marks tonight because he was looking for who was coming at him rather than watching the ball into his hands.  I don't care how many scores he had, he doesn't do the basics right and he's afraid of contact.  He has to go. 

I could give 2 chits about the contested stuff, what he needs to do is convert his simple chances. He does that and we win last night and potentially against West Coast. It’s mind blowing AFL players can’t kick for goal, they are literally paid to practice and play this game full time.

Max Gawn is another culprit, he knows he pulls the ball left and still can’t set up aiming for the right post. 

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8 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

If I was Goodwin I'd drop him on tonight's performance. He can't pick and choose when he will go for the ball. The times he squibbed it, it  wasn't as if he was going 2 get crunched. It's a bad look & he did it at leat twice in the last quarter. Trade or delist at end of year. He will let u down in big games. Players either are 100% committed or they're not & he isn't. 

Again who comes in for him? Lockhart? Dunkley? Bedford or Chandler.

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7 hours ago, Scoop Junior said:

It wasn't the players?

Weideman, Hunt and Smith missed absolute sitters from close range directly in front.

Wagner and Garlett dropped easy uncontested marks that would have led to shots for goal.

Some of OMac's defensive efforts on Jenkins were laughable.

This was a game a side with any semblance of composure and mental strength would have won by 6-8 goals.

Summed up perfectly

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1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

Sounds like my parents. My dad gets too heated watching it on tv, but somehow nonchalantly can go to his bed at half time and just pop the radio on or turn it off and go to sleep and wake up for the result. And my mum hides in the bathroom or bedroom when a result is even remotely close. Kind of defeats the purpose of following/enjoying watching a sport, but i can think i empathize as i get older and realise it's not good for the heart. It's a very uncomfortable feeling they'd rather avoid. Unless its an important final anyway. I live overseas now, but i find that watching it on delay is the best way for me to take an amount of stress away. i can pause it in and take a break in between goals or even forward thrusts, fast forward through the opponents attack and see if a goal was kicked or if they were repelled. For eg I paused it when Weid marked it and took a 2 minute break to come back to the shot. Makes life easier.

I agree. Following this team is a health hazard and there should be a warning on the membership ticket. For the heart during the game and the liver afterwards. No wonder Johnny Walker sponsored us. 

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21 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Keen to hear who should have played for Oscar last night? Petty? Keilty?

May and Lever might be back this week but until they arrive Oscar is it.... sadly.

Aside from a few weeks of ok form, we're still the same shambolic defence that needed TMAC to go down back to mitigate our awfulness for prime time anzac eve viewing. So that's your answer there.

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1 hour ago, Skuit said:

What exactly is the point of Tom McDonald right now? 

Not sure really. He's been way off the mark all year. Seems to have lost the ability to jump or take a mark. He also cant kick further than 40m. He must be carrying an injury of some sort surely, because he was way better than that the last couple of years. Should have been spelled or dropped a fair while ago imo. Yet another mismanaged player.

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7 hours ago, Bay Riffin said:

if you look at it clinically, JKH had a real shocker tonight. I;'ve though he could play a bit but his efforts, his skills, lack of reading of the play were all terrible. falling to ground against Jenkins deep in defence cost us a goal no-one would cough up. I knew that would hurt us badly.

He's had too many chances.

He was pushed directly in the back and it was a basic free kick since 1896 when the game started. Same as Weideman 10 metres out,  but we don’t get basic frees,  while opposition get slight touches. 

 

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9 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

If you can’t kick set shots from inside 40m what about 5 times in a match you cannot win! 

The one thing that wins football matches is kicking goals. Why is it then that clubs spend very little time on teaching players to kick. Get someone down to MFC and teach these guys how to bloody kick!

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55 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Keen to hear who should have played for Oscar last night? Petty? Keilty?

May and Lever might be back this week but until they arrive Oscar is it.... sadly.

A card board cut out of Steven may would have been more imposing...

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Imagine

Basketballers who do not practice shooting over and over

Golfers who do not practice to put over and over

Tennis players who do not practice their serve.over and over

 

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2 minutes ago, Big Carl said:

The one thing that wins football matches is kicking goals. Why is it then that clubs spend very little time on teaching players to kick. Get someone down to MFC and teach these guys how to bloody kick!

Any surprise Geelong are on top of the ladder:

Cats - 163 goals 110 behinds conversion rate 59.7%

Us - 111 goals 115 behinds conversion rate 49.1%

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10 minutes ago, —coach— said:

Any surprise Geelong are on top of the ladder:

Cats - 163 goals 110 behinds conversion rate 59.7%

Us - 111 goals 115 behinds conversion rate 49.1%

No, no suprises.

Number of players who ran out on Saturday with over 100 games:

Geelong - 13

Melbourne - 6

Or ... Players on Saturday with over 200 games:

Geelong - 5

Melbourne - 1

How about over 150 games?:

Geelong - 8

Melbourne - 3

What part of this are people not getting?

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10 hours ago, monoccular said:

Are you an alias for Simon Goodwin

Looking forward to his “positive spin” and “empathy with the supporters” BS.  

How about spending all next week doing hail kicking 

Once again about 20 more inside 50s to no avail.  Just abysmal. 

Sorry, BOM predicting some rain but definitely no hail. Frost is predicted, not sure for what though.

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2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

No, no suprises.

Number of players who ran out on Saturday with over 100 games:

Geelong - 13

Melbourne - 6

Or ... Players on Saturday with over 200 games:

Geelong - 5

Melbourne - 1

How about over 150 games?:

Geelong - 8

Melbourne - 3

What part of this are people not getting?

Talent and coaching

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[censored] poor way to lose a match       but   we are slowly getting back to last years form,   if only we could kick for goal better,

That's my only consolation                 Give the players the surgery they need come back in 2020.  

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1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

Keen to hear who should have played for Oscar last night? Petty? Keilty?

May and Lever might be back this week but until they arrive Oscar is it.... sadly.

May should have. Absolutely ridiculous making him play VFL. He’s a high quality player. He played very well in VFL and could well have been the difference if he played against Adelaide instead of Oscar, leading to a win.

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19 minutes ago, bing181 said:

No, no suprises.

Number of players who ran out on Saturday with over 100 games:

Geelong - 13

Melbourne - 6

Or ... Players on Saturday with over 200 games:

Geelong - 5

Melbourne - 1

How about over 150 games?:

Geelong - 8

Melbourne - 3

What part of this are people not getting?

I think we all get that, but it is quite possible that set shot goal kicking can be done accurately by 15yos as well as 35yos and everything in between which is the stat I was referring to, and while the he stats I quoted include both set shot and in play scores my point is still valid

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1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

Aside from a few weeks of ok form, we're still the same shambolic defence that needed TMAC to go down back to mitigate our awfulness for prime time anzac eve viewing. So that's your answer there.

Yeap agree but who of those I listed would change that? May and Lever are coming, that’s what we have but it’s too late.

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Watched just after half time. Still baffled at how professional athletes earning an average of $310,000 pa missed easy opportunities.

Behinds in H2:

Weideman x2
Gawn x2
Harmes x1
T. Smith x1
Jones x1
Hunt x1
 

With this season now a write off, the club needs to be more ruthless on who gets game time. I.e. if they're not going to be part of a permiership team, dont play them. Garlett, OMac and JKH.

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1 minute ago, PJ_12345 said:

Watched just after half time. Still baffled at how professional athletes earning an average of $310,000 pa missed easy opportunities.

Behinds in H2:

Weideman x2
Gawn x2
Harmes x1
T. Smith x1
Jones x1
Hunt x1
 

With this season now a write off, the club needs to be more ruthless on who gets game time. I.e. if they're not going to be part of a permiership team, dont play them. Garlett, OMac and JKH.

Literally all training should be until the end of the season is goal kicking drills.

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Goodwin with his “micro” improvements make me puke. I really feel for Max Gawn an absolute star. To be so bad and have the best ruck in the comp show how bad the rest are barring a couple of exceptions. We simply have half a dozen putrid footballers in that line up. This team is simply unwatchable with these guy playing. Everyone keep saying we will improve with May & Lever but I have no confidence that either of these guys will get on the park. May woeful preparation sum up everything that is wrong with this team. I wish I could be optimistic but Last night was a rerun of what we have been copping for 50 years. How can you have any belief in the future. It all made worse by Goodwin nauseating press conferences filled with platitudes, false claim of improvement; and excuses after promises of accountability. Just once some true reflections on what has gone wrong and who owns the disasters that are May, Lever and the loss of Hogan. Those trades have the potential to consign us to another lifetime of misery but there no ownership or heat on May who just oozes the loser culture that pervades at this club.

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