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2 minutes ago, Chook said:

I give him about a month before we coach it out of him. I remember Jeremy Howe's first year with us. He used to shepherd before we knocked that right out of him as well.

I think that is  true. I have noticed many times new players or particularly players from other clubs come to us with attributes that they ultimately lose with us. Foremost of those players was the way Bernie Vince played in his first year with us. Not saying he was not a very good pick up in all his years with us but his Adelaide style and confidence really stood out in that first year.

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26 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

I think that is  true. I have noticed many times new players or particularly players from other clubs come to us with attributes that they ultimately lose with us. Foremost of those players was the way Bernie Vince played in his first year with us. Not saying he was not a very good pick up in all his years with us but his Adelaide style and confidence really stood out in that first year.

I don't think we coached it out of him. I think, instead, age caught up with him.

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Is 10 some sort of modern era record?

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43 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I don't think we coached it out of him. I think, instead, age caught up with him.

Fair enough, but I disagree. 

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20 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Dad and Mum look so proud, and why wouldn't you be, three healthy big kids, riches beyond measure 

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1 hour ago, Sorry kids said:

Dunkley can mark outstretched in front of his body, picking up kicks that would bounce in front of other players. I am scratching my head to think of the last Dee player to be able to do that. Maybe Gary Lyon?

That was a handy feature of Lyon's game - he kept moving towards the incoming pill and was smart and athletic enough to respond to the vagaries of bounce with the pointed ball. It can be seen on the Dunkley vision ... nice.

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12 hours ago, poita said:

I've been convinced that our midfield is lacking in depth for several years, so if Kyle can push into the midfield rotation over the next years whilst making a contribution in the forward line, that would clearly be a big step up on the likes of Wagner, Spargo and Lockhart.

My number one priority is players who can find the football, then kicking ability and leg speed. If you can't find the football (see the three names above as examples), everything else is irrelevant.

He looked naturally intuitive,  and composed,  thru close traffic..

Also looks to have sure hands,  and strong overhead, Re  marking.  Judgement looked good,  and paced himself well.   How will he pick-up the tempo,  at AFL level ?????

 

I, so far,   like what I see.    Lets try to be a bit understated,  with the boy.

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10 hours ago, rjay said:

Going by the SEN interview he didn't seem to think he was slow...

Many seem to equate words like inside mid & hard at the ball as meaning too slow. 

It wouldn't surprise if he measures what he needs, to get the job done.   Time will tell what he brings.

 

But he has already brought some excitement to our dull season.

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3 minutes ago, DV8 said:

He looked naturally intuitive,  and composed,  thru close traffic..

Also looks to have sure hands,  and strong overhead, Re  marking.  Judgement looked good,  and paced himself well.   How will he pick-up the tempo,  at AFL level ?????

 

I, so far,   like what I see.    Lets try to be a bit understated,  with the boy.

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Maybe midfield as some here say, but I hope he can play the third tall roaming forward role. I have a good feeling about him.too as long as we all give him time and good coaching.

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23 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Maybe midfield as some here say, but I hope he can play the third tall roaming forward role. I have a good feeling about him.too as long as we all give him time and good coaching.

 

Looking past him... and looking at the roles he plays,  I think might show the reasons of his selection.?

Does it point to our limited players as half-forwards...  see AVB (injury)  Hannan (injury)   And Petracca (fitness/desire) ???   Melksham (already 27Yrs old)

 

I think our Mid Section Lacks...  good drivers in heavy traffic.  Being able to step thru the traffic with the ball,  before releasing it to better options,  for delivery.

Most of our mids,  when under-pressure,  play  Hot-Potato  from one to the other whilst being corralled.    We need some who can step-thru close attention.   As much as we need Wingers.

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2 minutes ago, DV8 said:

 

Looking past him... and looking at the roles he plays,  I think might show the reasons of his selection.?

Does it point to our limited players as half-forwards...  see AVB (injury)  Hannan (injury)   And Petracca (fitness/desire) ???   Melksham (already 27Yrs old)

 

I think our Mid Section Lacks...  good drivers in heavy traffic.  Being able to step thru the traffic with the ball,  before releasing it to better options,  for delivery.

Most of our mids,  when under-pressure,  play  Hot-Potato  from one to the other whilst being corralled.    We need some who can step-thru close attention.   As much as we need Wingers.

I think the hot potato game planning is a sort of cheating, not in the fair play sense but in the sense of being a short cut to a better game and more reliable game plan. When it comes off it is a million dollars and when it doesnt, well  we know what happens. I reckon the last time that game plan worked in a GF was in the Peter Hudson days at Hawthorn. But Huddo was a genuine freak. 

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1 hour ago, Sorry kids said:

I think the hot potato game planning is a sort of cheating, not in the fair play sense but in the sense of being a short cut to a better game and more reliable game plan. When it comes off it is a million dollars and when it doesnt, well  we know what happens. I reckon the last time that game plan worked in a GF was in the Peter Hudson days at Hawthorn. But Huddo was a genuine freak. 

So i think you just answered your own question...it’s not “cheating” it’s risk for reward and the last time the chaos ball game plan worked in a GF I dare say was the Bulldogs in 2016.

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58 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

I think the hot potato game planning is a sort of cheating, not in the fair play sense but in the sense of being a short cut to a better game and more reliable game plan. When it comes off it is a million dollars and when it doesnt, well  we know what happens. I reckon the last time that game plan worked in a GF was in the Peter Hudson days at Hawthorn. But Huddo was a genuine freak. 

Yeah, I was referring to the times when we flick it off to one another,  failing to get it outside the corral.

I think when we handle the ball well,  we don't seem to be in so tight-together.

 

The  hot-potato,  I reckon is a worry,  because we get anxious as-a club Nature... have done for decades,  that I've seen.   When we're anxious & under pressure,  we tend to over-use the footy.  coughing it up.

So this rapid fire handball,  is sort of against our weaker nature ???  I think it will take a lot for US,  to conquer this play.

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4 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Yeah, I was referring to the times when we flick it off to one another,  failing to get it outside the corral.

I think when we handle the ball well,  we don't seem to be in so tight-together.

 

The  hot-potato,  I reckon is a worry,  because we get anxious as-a club Nature... have done for decades,  that I've seen.   When we're anxious & under pressure,  we tend to over-use the footy.  coughing it up.

So this rapid fire handball,  is sort of against our weaker nature ???  I think it will take a lot for US,  to conquer this play.

It worked last year because we were sharp off the ground with the contested ball. We aren’t this year...we are a step behind, unclean and the delay in getting the ball off is setting up the handball recipient, putting them under pressure.

Our game plan works if everyone is on. Unfortunately with the pre season we have had and injuries endured that was never going to happen.

I dare say we will see it in a game/s before the end of the year and we will literally [censored] someone.

 

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6 minutes ago, Beetle said:

It worked last year because we were sharp off the ground with the contested ball. We aren’t this year...we are a step behind, unclean and the delay in getting the ball off is setting up the handball recipient, putting them under pressure.

Our game plan works if everyone is on. Unfortunately with the pre season we have had and injuries endured that was never going to happen.

I dare say we will see it in a game/s before the end of the year and we will literally [censored] someone.

 

Quick ball use is always a good thing,  IF you can do it well.

Earlier this season we got corralled trying to use the Hot-Potato against the Cats??   and others,  just as we did 3 yrs ago playing the Saints under Edi'shat.  When Hickey troubled Max.?

Still I'll watch with interest, on Free-to-Air

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18 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

Dunkley can mark outstretched in front of his body, picking up kicks that would bounce in front of other players. I am scratching my head to think of the last Dee player to be able to do that. Maybe Gary Lyon?

 

16 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

That was a handy feature of Lyon's game - he kept moving towards the incoming pill and was smart and athletic enough to respond to the vagaries of bounce with the pointed ball. It can be seen on the Dunkley vision ... nice.

That would be fantastic - hope he doesn't get weighed down by unreasonable expectations!

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19 hours ago, Beetle said:

So i think you just answered your own question...it’s not “cheating” it’s risk for reward and the last time the chaos ball game plan worked in a GF I dare say was the Bulldogs in 2016.

Perhaps, and since then Clubs worked out how to combat it. Hence Bulldogs drop off. 

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Kyle is wearing #61 at Casey. I'd like to see that number run out for Melbourne sometime 

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That's confusing because Mitch White is #48 at Casey???

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8 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

That's confusing because Mitch White is #48 at Casey???

Not very clever!  Thought they were gonna let the Melb guys keep their regular numbers when they play at Casey, with the Casey guys having higher numbers??

 

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1 hour ago, Vagg said:

Not very clever!  Thought they were gonna let the Melb guys keep their regular numbers when they play at Casey, with the Casey guys having higher numbers??

 

That's definitely the plan but it looks like they've allocated #47-50 to Casey listed players. I'm guessing Austin Bradtke is #46.

Maybe #61 is the next vacant number?

B 56. W. Collis, 1. S. May, 67. T. Freeman
HB 23. J. Jordon, 60. J. Hutchins, 49. C. Stockdale
C 52. M.  Gent, 40. C.  Wagner, 16. K.  Kolodjashnij
HF 37. K. Chandler, 45. D. Keilty, 61. K. Dunkley
F 21. B. Preuss, 26. S. Weideman, 48. M. White
FOLL 65. L. Wale-Buxton, 47. J. Munro, 24. J. Kennedy-Harris
I/C (from) 12. T. Bedford, 54. J. Briggs, 72. J. Griffiths, 79. M. Lefau, 74. N. Lowden, 
57. A. Quigley, 50. W. Stephenson, 68. A. Vella
23P 71. H. Briggs

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