PREGAME: Rd 10 vs GWS Giants

[Young Blood 1,971]

53 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Marty Hore will be an absolute star one day.

If it ever gets to full fitness our backline will be just fine in the next few seasons.

B:    Jetta   May   Hore

HB: Salem Lever Hibberd

Bench/swingman: Fritsch

Depth: Lockhart, Petty, Omac, Frost, Wagner

Edited May 24, 2019 by Yung Blood

[Demon Dude 425]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Smith is named on the field, he won't be dropped. They'llonly drop players from the extended bench

How people still don't understand this concept is seriously mind boggling.

Misson said the concussed guys still have to get ticked off on Saturday. Haven't you ever heard of a late change?

[Demon3 2,541]

On 5/22/2019 at 10:47 PM, Pates said:

It was heartening seeing us return to the footy that made us great to watch last week. I'm not sure where that was for the first few rounds but it gives me hope that it's still there. 

Scoreboard pressure early is crucial, we were on top for the first 10min last week but failed to make it count, which ended up being the theme for the whole game. If Tom, Trac, and Jeffy can get on the board early, get their confidence up it could be what wins us the game. 

Just on Jeffy, did anyone else feel like there were more glimpses of his old self last week? Hitting the crumbs hard with pace, and looking to be creative, his finishing still isn't quite right but for the first time in a while he looked like a danger. 

It was a classic Jeffy game, really clean, opportunistic, creative, a bit timid and frustrating lazy misses. You get it all and you have to accept the ordinary because the good is very good.

[Wells 11 4,649]

18 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

It was a classic Jeffy game, really clean, opportunistic, creative, a bit timid and frustrating lazy misses. You get it all and you have to accept the ordinary because the good is very good.

Agreed. AND he can kick straight from a set shot...which puts him way out front of the rest at the moment. 

[SPC 2,770]

If Salem doesn't play I will spew up.

[Nasher 33,047]

A player plays an otherwise good game that has an obviously positive effect on the game, but has one blemish in it. Would you prefer the blemish be:

a) 1 dropped sitter?
b) 1 shanked set shot from 30 out, directly in front?
c) 1 failure to 'go'? 

For some reason, everyone eventually overlooks (a) and (b) but (c) appears to be a completely unforgivable sin. I reckon if the player committed 5 of them in a game, maybe I could get it, but I reckon too much weight is being put on one error for Garlett. 

For those who see the world in black and white and think I'm suggesting it should be acceptable not to 'go' when required, I'm certainly not. I'm just suggesting it's one of a suite of things that should be non-negotiable in AFL football, but it seems to get a disproportional amount of focus, despite the fact that it probably has the same outcome on the scoreboard, or arguably less outcome on the scoreboard, than the other cardinal and very rectifiable sins.

[dazzledavey36 48,641]

46 minutes ago, Demon Dude said:

Misson said the concussed guys still have to get ticked off on Saturday. Haven't you ever heard of a late change?

I have heard of a late change. It's obvious he got through Tuesday's  main training session where as ANB didn't. 

So he will be playing. 

Edited May 24, 2019 by dazzledavey36

[hardtack 10,126]

2 hours ago, hells bells said:

How many times did he not even provide a contest?  Shirked the contest a couple of times too.  2 goals from being out the back inflate his stats and overstate his level of performance.

Who else would have gotten those three goals? He will play himself into form and in the meantime still provide goals, which is more than can be said about others.  I’d be more concerned about some of those set shots from the likes of Tom and Trac.

[Nasher 33,047]

2 hours ago, Demon Dude said:

Late change is still possible if Smith's not 100% though. I wouldn't risk him.

Fair enough; I tend to be in the camp of assuming that won't happen. They've already ruled ANB out, so I'd expect them to have already ruled out Smith too if there was doubt. The rationale being I'm in no position to assess whether it's a 'risk' to play him or not.

[What 18,810]

Weid will come in for T Smith.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,100]

12 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Weid will come in for T Smith.

I don't think we lose anything with that late chance.

Assuming Weed can play like a top 10 draft pick in his fourth year, coming off an excellent finals campaign.

[JV7 2,339]

I think the theory of don’t play the extra tall because of weather is old school. Unless it is absolutely pelting down for the whole game, ground conditions are usually pretty good these days, dries up quickly & new footys used every score kicked.

I would almost have the oppostie view, if it is wet that means more stoppages, more ball ups, throw ins, more contact for Gawn. He’d tire a hell of a lot with the extra stoppages, Preuss’ big body in a slog against Mumford isn’t a bad idea, will it happen probably not

Edited May 24, 2019 by JV7

[At the break of Gawn 3,474]

51 minutes ago, JV7 said:

I think the theory of don’t play the extra tall because of weather is old school. Unless it is absolutely pelting down for the whole game, ground conditions are usually pretty good these days, dries up quickly & new footys used every score kicked.

I would almost have the oppostie view, if it is wet that means more stoppages, more ball ups, throw ins, more contact for Gawn. He’d tire a hell of a lot with the extra stoppages, Preuss’ big body in a slog against Mumford isn’t a bad idea, will it happen probably not

Some very good points there. Definitely compelling to bring Preuss in.

[Demon3 2,541]

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

Weid will come in for T Smith.

I hope not. Weid has not earned a recall not even close. Tim Smith competes, he marks, he puts pressure on. Right now he is more important to our game that Weid.

Weid will get there but is the sort of player that has to be up and about.

Edited May 24, 2019 by Demon3

[TGR 1,367]

Preuss matches up better with Mumford than any other ruck in the comp.  Time to give Gawn a chop out.  I would play Gawn forward and try attract/engage Davis.  Gawn should play 2nd ruck this week.  Preuss deep forward is a concern when the ball hits the deck.

[hells bells 2,022]

I thought the same thing TGR.

[DubDee 20,332]

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

A player plays an otherwise good game that has an obviously positive effect on the game, but has one blemish in it. Would you prefer the blemish be:

a) 1 dropped sitter?
b) 1 shanked set shot from 30 out, directly in front?
c) 1 failure to 'go'? 

For some reason, everyone eventually overlooks (a) and (b) but (c) appears to be a completely unforgivable sin. I reckon if the player committed 5 of them in a game, maybe I could get it, but I reckon too much weight is being put on one error for Garlett. 

For those who see the world in black and white and think I'm suggesting it should be acceptable not to 'go' when required, I'm certainly not. I'm just suggesting it's one of a suite of things that should be non-negotiable in AFL football, but it seems to get a disproportional amount of focus, despite the fact that it probably has the same outcome on the scoreboard, or arguably less outcome on the scoreboard, than the other cardinal and very rectifiable sins.

Interesting points Nasher.

But I don't think there are that many non-negotiables.  People make skill errors/miss shots/drop marks and that can be forgiven up to a point. But not putting your body on the line for the team and not helping your team mates even if only done once or twice affects the whole team. and if that someone continues to get picked, the standards can drop amongst the whole side.  

I am not saying that is what Jeff has done, just talking generally.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Can't agree with the above points re Mumford v Preuss. Why would we be worried about matching up with Mumford? We arguably have the best ruck in the comp who gives our mids silver service and he should run Mumford off his feet. Our starting midfield is the main area that gives us a chance of winning this game.

If Preuss plays, it will be predominantly forward.

[Demon3 2,541]

2 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

Can't agree with the above points re Mumford v Preuss. Why would we be worried about matching up with Mumford? We arguably have the best ruck in the comp who gives our mids silver service and he should run Mumford off his feet. Our starting midfield is the main area that gives us a chance of winning this game.

If Preuss plays, it will be predominantly forward.

Spot on.

[DubDee 20,332]

I was feeling confident until I realised Carlton have a better Percentage than us.

We're doomed.

[58er 5,588]

3 hours ago, Yung Blood said:

If it ever gets to full fitness our backline will be just fine in the next few seasons.

B:    Jetta   May   Hore

HB: Salem Lever Hibberd

Bench/swingman: Fritsch

Depth: Lockhart, Petty, Omac, Frost, Wagner

Petty will be part of it and hopefully Fritsch is up forward !

[Deemented Are Go! 3,581]

what time are final squads announced?

[58er 5,588]

8 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

what time are final squads announced?

5 pm I think 

[Deemented Are Go! 3,581]

Just now, 58er said:

5 pm I think 

thanks, not used to this Sunday game business....

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,100]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

I was feeling confident until I realised Carlton have a better Percentage than us.

That's an absolute indictment on us.